Kieslowski - Three Colors Trilogy - Poll

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didn't like blue at the time, v disappointing after double life
liked white but it felt slight at the time, my opinion of it greatly improved after *rescreening* it
loved red

buzza, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:44 (nine years ago) link

i don't know how i forgot almodovar since when i thought about irene jacob and her floudering in hollywood i thought of penelope cruz temporarily (and on occasion still) suffering the same fate

balls, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:45 (nine years ago) link

In my mind the "debate" in 1994 wasn't between Pulp Fiction and Forrest Gump: more like PF vs Red. Kieslowski's rep was such that he got Best Director and Screenplay nods that year -- and Tarantino himself was a fan.

IIRC, it's mentioned in Criterion TDLoV book that Tarentino wanted Irene Jacob to play Mia Wallace, but she was already commited to Red.

Mucho! Macho! Honcho!: Turn Off The Dark (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:46 (nine years ago) link

and thus a life was saved

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:50 (nine years ago) link

They certainly did have cachet. I wasn't the only guy at the time who bought the Blue score (by "Van Den Budenmayer").

also:

Van Den Budenmayer[After Kieślowski's death, Harvey Weinstein (then head of Miramax Films, which distributed the last four Kieślowski films in the US) wrote a eulogy for him in Premiere magazine. In it he said that Quentin Tarantino saw The Double Life of Véronique at the 1991 Cannes Film Festival and took note of its star, Irène Jacob. He apparently wrote the part of Bruce Willis's wife in Pulp Fiction for her, but she was unavailable for the shoot.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:53 (nine years ago) link

If you didn't know, The whole Trilogy coming from Criterion prob' by the end of this year.

I'm going to have to buy it again??

E.L. Doctorow Who (Leee), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 03:26 (nine years ago) link

Thanks for the PF clarification Alfred!

Mucho! Macho! Honcho!: Turn Off The Dark (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 03:28 (nine years ago) link

blue had a huge impact on me when it came out. I went back and saw it a second time with a date. that date became my wife.

a couple years ago we were having a yard sale and an old lady pulled a vhs copy of blue out of a box. my wife described the movie to her and how it was our first date. the old lady said, "and you still married him? must've been love."

so yeah, blue.

the manarchist cookbook (Edward III), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 03:38 (nine years ago) link

happy birthday krzysztof kieslowski!

Red probably the most powerful of these movies, but I have seen White the most.

Dominique, Monday, 27 June 2011 17:00 (nine years ago) link

BLUE BLUE BLUE

brie on crüt (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 27 June 2011 17:07 (nine years ago) link

white. white is hilarious. none of the others are hilarious.

my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Monday, 27 June 2011 17:20 (nine years ago) link

when i was a teenager my favorite was red hands down though, mostly cuz of irene jacob and her bubble gum.

my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Monday, 27 June 2011 17:20 (nine years ago) link

White, I think. Struggled with the other two to a certain extent, but always liked the closeness of death to the humour in White, the melancholy, and the portrait of adult male companionship.

Fizzles the Chimp (GamalielRatsey), Monday, 27 June 2011 17:27 (nine years ago) link

Red

saw em all just once.

joyless shithead (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 June 2011 17:37 (nine years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 23:01 (nine years ago) link

Red is one of my favorite movies of all time.

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 04:21 (nine years ago) link

Blue!

spellcheck is really advanced these days (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 11:41 (nine years ago) link

I wish I could remember them. Don't remember anything, really. Hardly remember Double Life of Veronique either.

MrDasher, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:12 (nine years ago) link

juliette binoche furiously eating a lollipop

Michael B, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:14 (nine years ago) link

the scene where juliette binoche drags her knuckles along a rock wall is weirdly hard to take for me

my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:21 (nine years ago) link

^^^^ the most memorable image.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:23 (nine years ago) link

Veronique is dulllllllllllllllllll.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:23 (nine years ago) link

sound design in blue is so well done

snowball's epc in hell (Edward III), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:31 (nine years ago) link

that part where she throws the sheet music into the garbage truck

Michael B, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:32 (nine years ago) link

xxxp i guess that's true as i think about it literally every time i walk past a rock wall

my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:33 (nine years ago) link

many many memorable moments/images in blue

lollipop wrapper blowing in the wind, kids jumping into the pool, the sugarcube, the final montage

snowball's epc in hell (Edward III), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:40 (nine years ago) link

The lollipop wrapper in the wind is luscious. I don't dislike anything you mentioned, but when I think of Blue the first thing that comes to mind is Binoche scraping her knuckles, and those stabs of classical music.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:43 (nine years ago) link

i like the kids jumping into the pool too but honestly it is pretty hard not to roll your eyes at juliette binoche floating in the FETAL POSITION in a pool which is GUESS WHICH COLOR and then agreeing to hang out with the prostitute after which A WHOLE BUNCH OF YELLING PEOPLE PILE INTO THE PREVIOUSLY EMPTY POOL DO YOU SEE

my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:45 (nine years ago) link

I love the expression of silent contempt when Binoche watches that old woman struggle and fail to stick her plastic bottle in the recycling bin.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:47 (nine years ago) link

nah even that's better in white -- his reassured smirk at knowing that there are people worse off than him.

my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:48 (nine years ago) link

I kinda feel like blue as a whole is kind of eye-rolly? could write the whole thing off like eh europeans are saddo classicals but for me you either go with the melodrama or not and I'm all in

snowball's epc in hell (Edward III), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:49 (nine years ago) link

I kinda feel like blue as a whole is kind of eye-rolly? could write the whole thing off like eh europeans are saddo classicals but for me you either go with the melodrama or not and I'm all in

― snowball's epc in hell (Edward III), Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:49 AM (16 seconds ago) Bookmark

yeah this is all true and sometimes i am in too.

my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:50 (nine years ago) link

That's why I prefer Red.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:50 (nine years ago) link

A review at that time called Blue "an exquisite tone poem." Then added: "But movies aren't poems."

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:50 (nine years ago) link

no movies are pineapples made of sound and images

snowball's epc in hell (Edward III), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:53 (nine years ago) link

intellectually it's easy to reason out why red is the better picture but blue works on my emotions like music and that's a magical thing so it gets the banana

(last minute campaigning)

snowball's epc in hell (Edward III), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:56 (nine years ago) link

my only bit of last-minute campaigning for white would be to remind people of the line "my god... home at last" followed immediately by the awesome theme song

my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:59 (nine years ago) link

Yes, that was a beautiful scene, including the leadup to it: Karol fighting, "Look out! He has scissors!" The gulls swarming above the field.

Also great: Karol and Mikolaj sliding across the frozen pond, Mikolaj screaming wordlessly.

Think White could pull an upset here.

boxall, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 17:11 (nine years ago) link

yeah that's not gonna happen

snowball's epc in hell (Edward III), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 17:12 (nine years ago) link

it will be red blue white

but everybody feel free to prove me wrong

snowball's epc in hell (Edward III), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 17:13 (nine years ago) link

I'm going to count 2nd as an upset, if it happens. Still a slim chance I know.

boxall, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 17:13 (nine years ago) link

white will not pull an upset here, but i really do love it, so much more earthy, sardonic and spirited than the other two

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 19:09 (nine years ago) link

somehow when i opened this thread i knew 'veronique' was gonna come up and that alfred was gonna deem it dull!

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 20:25 (nine years ago) link

voted blue, which i remember chiefly for juliette binoche's incredible performance and the masterful way that kieslowski stages the opening car crash - lyrical and terrifying cinema.

veronique is my favourite, i;m total sucker for 'supernatural' art movies

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 21:37 (nine years ago) link

I didn't find the "metaphysics" of Veronique compelling, and without that armature the two stories weren't either. He paced the protagonist's musing and noodling more interesting in Blue and Red.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 21:40 (nine years ago) link

Moreover, maybe it's her age but Irene Jacob's guilelessness was less sticky in Red.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 21:41 (nine years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 23:01 (nine years ago) link

I didn't find the "metaphysics" of Veronique compelling, and without that armature the two stories weren't either. He paced the protagonist's musing and noodling more interesting in Blue and Red.

it's the storytelling that's so beautiful in veronique, i think; kieslowski's so confident, and thinks highly enough of his audience to tell the stories v sparely + elliptically, leaving us to fill in the jumps and blanks. seeing her musing + noodling, detached and inert, pretty much separated from the urgency of the guys she hangs out with and the transience of everything else going on, becomes this compelling, involving focus, to me. it's one of my favourites, on account of just how well it's accessorised & presented & what it elicits in me as a character study.

devoted to boats (schlump), Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:21 (nine years ago) link

nah even that's better in white -- his reassured smirk at knowing that there are people worse off than him.

I may be mis-remembering, but I thought Karol was asleep, no?

Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Friday, 1 July 2011 03:17 (nine years ago) link

i think the film's construction is remarkable. all those echoes in the images and dialogue, from scene to scene practically; with a heavier touch they'd be unbearable, with a lighter touch they'd be invisible

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 February 2019 16:21 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

a little nervous about this one still but https://www.brightwalldarkroom.com/2019/03/28/sonata-on-human-connection-red-1994/

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 29 March 2019 20:50 (one year ago) link

lol i forgot i cannibalized my last post in this thread for a sentence in this piece

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 29 March 2019 20:51 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

only got to this now but really wonderful piece, risk pays off imo

lowercase (eric), Thursday, 18 April 2019 19:27 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

yeah White is the best one

flappy bird, Saturday, 17 October 2020 04:01 (one month ago) link

hm!

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 October 2020 15:42 (one month ago) link

White was certainly may fav back in the day, for the humor. Funny, I almost revisited Red last night, for the first time in 15yrs or so.

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Saturday, 17 October 2020 16:13 (one month ago) link

Blue was one of the first movies I went for when the pandemic hit, I think it has an amazing opening sequence and stays good but nothing lives up to that tunnel or the extreme close up of the eye... Ditto for opening of Red, which is also funnier than I remember. White is just the most consistent one imo, and it's hilarious, with the other two I find myself looking at the cinematography, sort of disengaged from the story.

flappy bird, Saturday, 17 October 2020 17:18 (one month ago) link

like when he gets dumped out of the suitcase and looks up and says "I'M HOME!" and it's the most drab ugly looking patch of mud and snow with a bulldozer, and then cue the orchestra. lmao

flappy bird, Saturday, 17 October 2020 17:18 (one month ago) link

xxp I watched Red last night and White the night before--I watched Blue all the way back in March and for whatever reason didn't feel compelled to rewatch, glad I did

flappy bird, Saturday, 17 October 2020 17:20 (one month ago) link

xp i don't particularly like these films but this is for sure the best moment

devvvine, Saturday, 17 October 2020 19:50 (one month ago) link

red is stacked with amazing moments but i always enjoy hearing from white truthers

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 17 October 2020 19:53 (one month ago) link


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