Kieslowski - Three Colors Trilogy - Poll

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I know I'm in the minority, but I'm going with White, the film equivalent of Zooropa. Of all three, the opening sequence of Blue, the final sequence of White, and the lightbulb in Red are my favorites.

27 Dresses, 13 Assassins (Eazy), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:33 (nine years ago) link

blue w/o thinking probably red if i do

Dr. Frog, B.S., M.S.E., Ph.D (Lamp), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:36 (nine years ago) link

I know I'm in the minority, but I'm going with White, the film equivalent of Zooropa

wait waht

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:36 (nine years ago) link

If you didn't know, The whole Trilogy coming from Criterion prob' by the end of this year.

Mucho! Macho! Honcho!: Turn Off The Dark (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:37 (nine years ago) link

haha i was chalking that one up to my poor familiarity w/zooropa but... yeah (xp)

Dr. Frog, B.S., M.S.E., Ph.D (Lamp), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:38 (nine years ago) link

I'm very curious about reading posters' experiences with these things over the years. Because I was nineteen when first released, they were the last word on Intelligent European Cinema. But Red still holds up. Blue too.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:40 (nine years ago) link

[x-post]You could make some arguement about these lining up w/the Achtung Baby, Zooropa, Pop run, but Pop doesn't = Red.

Mucho! Macho! Honcho!: Turn Off The Dark (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:41 (nine years ago) link

The psychological disruption resulting from the fall of the Iron Curtain and the cultural establishment of the E.U.!!!

27 Dresses, 13 Assassins (Eazy), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:43 (nine years ago) link

^^if we were commenting on a YouTube clip

27 Dresses, 13 Assassins (Eazy), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:44 (nine years ago) link

white. prefer la double vie to blue, which it strongly resembles. red's amazing, but not a personal favorite.

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:59 (nine years ago) link

Red, but I hope White gets a few votes. I remember it had a goofy charm.

My Boyfriend Could Be A Spanish Man (R Baez), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 01:05 (nine years ago) link

Red is the only one I've seen, but that's p great!

I thought I had read that Morbz hated either Red or Blue...probably none of my business...

yeah, but I know Taser Fu (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 01:13 (nine years ago) link

No, he said on the Kieslowski thread that he liked Red.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 01:26 (nine years ago) link

My bad. I'm sorry. I thought he implied something disparaging on the Best Films of the 90s thread :(

yeah, but I know Taser Fu (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:09 (nine years ago) link

that doesn't sound like him

balls, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:12 (nine years ago) link

i am and pretty much always have been a sucker for art about 'ideas' (and hence was hardcore on the kieslowski train already), was vaguely a cineaste at this time (18-19), and find beautiful women attractive so these films were pretty huge w/ me. had a definite crush on irene jacob (dating back to veronique), so much so i went to see that awful mid-nineties version of othello. i'm probably wrong (i hope so) but is this the last foreign/"art" film/set of films to attain this level of cultural currency/ubiquity? or at least that didn't owe its appeal to violence/action/date flick/whatever the appeal of amelie was? by cultural currency i basically mean 'this movie poster became a dorm room cliche' etc.

balls, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:25 (nine years ago) link

Unless you count some Aldomovar films...?

In my mind the "debate" in 1994 wasn't between Pulp Fiction and Forrest Gump: more like PF vs Red. Kieslowski's rep was such that he got Best Director and Screenplay nods that year -- and Tarantino himself was a fan.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:28 (nine years ago) link

*Alomodovar obv

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:28 (nine years ago) link

heh - Almodovar

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:28 (nine years ago) link

btw I don't think these films are as significant as defenders (like me) argued at the time. Blue and Red are cool, chic noodling, in which we stare at beautiful women for ninety minutes. Kieslowski was lucky in that he died before his style could ossify into a manner (and kitsch).

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:30 (nine years ago) link

i dont think 'blue' is particularly radical or inventive & its in some ways p trite but i do think its p keenly felt idk if that makes it 'significant'

Dr. Frog, B.S., M.S.E., Ph.D (Lamp), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:36 (nine years ago) link

i'm probably wrong (i hope so) but is this the last foreign/"art" film/set of films to attain this level of cultural currency/ubiquity? or at least that didn't owe its appeal to violence/action/date flick/whatever the appeal of amelie was? by cultural currency i basically mean 'this movie poster became a dorm room cliche' etc.

I like these movies but I think the 'trilogy!! colors!!! do you see!!' gimmick is probably responsible for a lot of the interest?

iatee, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:41 (nine years ago) link

I voted blue but I haven't seen white for a long time, barely remember it.

iatee, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:41 (nine years ago) link

i'm probably wrong (i hope so) but is this the last foreign/"art" film/set of films to attain this level of cultural currency/ubiquity? or at least that didn't owe its appeal to violence/action/date flick/whatever the appeal of amelie was? by cultural currency i basically mean 'this movie poster became a dorm room cliche' etc.

Alfred OTM on Almodovar. Might not meet your criteria, but what about Y tu mama tambien or Amores perros?

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Mucho! Macho! Honcho!: Turn Off The Dark (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:42 (nine years ago) link

yeah i guess almodovar, i'm one of those ppl that forgets that alot of ppl like his recent stuff as much as/more than his 80s stuff.

balls, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:42 (nine years ago) link

o duh the three amigos also

balls, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:43 (nine years ago) link

didn't like blue at the time, v disappointing after double life
liked white but it felt slight at the time, my opinion of it greatly improved after *rescreening* it
loved red

buzza, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:44 (nine years ago) link

i don't know how i forgot almodovar since when i thought about irene jacob and her floudering in hollywood i thought of penelope cruz temporarily (and on occasion still) suffering the same fate

balls, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:45 (nine years ago) link

In my mind the "debate" in 1994 wasn't between Pulp Fiction and Forrest Gump: more like PF vs Red. Kieslowski's rep was such that he got Best Director and Screenplay nods that year -- and Tarantino himself was a fan.

IIRC, it's mentioned in Criterion TDLoV book that Tarentino wanted Irene Jacob to play Mia Wallace, but she was already commited to Red.

Mucho! Macho! Honcho!: Turn Off The Dark (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:46 (nine years ago) link

and thus a life was saved

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:50 (nine years ago) link

They certainly did have cachet. I wasn't the only guy at the time who bought the Blue score (by "Van Den Budenmayer").

also:

Van Den Budenmayer[After Kieślowski's death, Harvey Weinstein (then head of Miramax Films, which distributed the last four Kieślowski films in the US) wrote a eulogy for him in Premiere magazine. In it he said that Quentin Tarantino saw The Double Life of Véronique at the 1991 Cannes Film Festival and took note of its star, Irène Jacob. He apparently wrote the part of Bruce Willis's wife in Pulp Fiction for her, but she was unavailable for the shoot.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:53 (nine years ago) link

If you didn't know, The whole Trilogy coming from Criterion prob' by the end of this year.

I'm going to have to buy it again??

E.L. Doctorow Who (Leee), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 03:26 (nine years ago) link

Thanks for the PF clarification Alfred!

Mucho! Macho! Honcho!: Turn Off The Dark (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 03:28 (nine years ago) link

blue had a huge impact on me when it came out. I went back and saw it a second time with a date. that date became my wife.

a couple years ago we were having a yard sale and an old lady pulled a vhs copy of blue out of a box. my wife described the movie to her and how it was our first date. the old lady said, "and you still married him? must've been love."

so yeah, blue.

the manarchist cookbook (Edward III), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 03:38 (nine years ago) link

happy birthday krzysztof kieslowski!

Red probably the most powerful of these movies, but I have seen White the most.

Dominique, Monday, 27 June 2011 17:00 (nine years ago) link

BLUE BLUE BLUE

brie on crüt (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 27 June 2011 17:07 (nine years ago) link

white. white is hilarious. none of the others are hilarious.

my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Monday, 27 June 2011 17:20 (nine years ago) link

when i was a teenager my favorite was red hands down though, mostly cuz of irene jacob and her bubble gum.

my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Monday, 27 June 2011 17:20 (nine years ago) link

White, I think. Struggled with the other two to a certain extent, but always liked the closeness of death to the humour in White, the melancholy, and the portrait of adult male companionship.

Fizzles the Chimp (GamalielRatsey), Monday, 27 June 2011 17:27 (nine years ago) link

Red

saw em all just once.

joyless shithead (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 June 2011 17:37 (nine years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 23:01 (nine years ago) link

Red is one of my favorite movies of all time.

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 04:21 (nine years ago) link

Blue!

spellcheck is really advanced these days (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 11:41 (nine years ago) link

I wish I could remember them. Don't remember anything, really. Hardly remember Double Life of Veronique either.

MrDasher, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:12 (nine years ago) link

juliette binoche furiously eating a lollipop

Michael B, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:14 (nine years ago) link

the scene where juliette binoche drags her knuckles along a rock wall is weirdly hard to take for me

my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:21 (nine years ago) link

^^^^ the most memorable image.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:23 (nine years ago) link

Veronique is dulllllllllllllllllll.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:23 (nine years ago) link

sound design in blue is so well done

snowball's epc in hell (Edward III), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:31 (nine years ago) link

that part where she throws the sheet music into the garbage truck

Michael B, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:32 (nine years ago) link

The Criterion box set defines "gorgeous."

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 October 2014 16:41 (six years ago) link

That's an unfortunate encoded URL with the Blowski.

cichleee suite (Leee), Monday, 13 October 2014 01:20 (six years ago) link

forgot about that sequence in which Julie and the boy who took her husband's Christ pendant fruitlessly tries to return it

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 October 2014 01:28 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

Newest addition to something I've posted about a few times in this thread, sequences where a song plays as the images link together a number of different characters: the folk song that plays at the end of Mad Men's sixth episode, season one. (New for me--just started watching.)

http://vimeo.com/29164651

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 December 2014 19:19 (five years ago) link

Feels like that happened at the end of every third episode ofHouse, Sex and the City, even Entourage...?

I know for sure it happens at least once in Exotica c v possibly it happens every time you hear the song "Everybody Knows". But Egoyan actually does a really good job of using his montages to play up very pointed contrasts not between scenes that seem superficially different but are similar at the core but instead between ine scene which seems superficially innocuous but divulges a very different meaning when viewed closer, a deeper meaning that is parallel to what seems to be the obvious meaning of the second scene that it us intercut with (though that scene also has a secret meaning that is not yet divulged as well) Such as Eric's first trip to the ballet/the introduction of regular Exotica customer Francis

wince (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 25 December 2014 23:26 (five years ago) link

Lol Merry Christmas ILX

wince (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 25 December 2014 23:27 (five years ago) link

Ending of most (every?) season of The Wire does this.

bit of a singles monster (Eazy), Friday, 26 December 2014 18:21 (five years ago) link

Maybe it's becoming a TV cliche--so many acclaimed series I still have to catch up on (my seven-year delay in starting Mad Men being a case in point).

clemenza, Friday, 26 December 2014 21:55 (five years ago) link

ten months pass...

Added to the Criterion channel on Hulu:
The Scar (1976)
Camera Buff (1979)
No End (1985)
Blind Chance (1987)
A Short Film About Killing (1988)
A Short Film About Love (1989)

phở intellectual (WilliamC), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 02:57 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

I rewatched all three colors this week and for me it's Blue >>>>>>>> White > Red.

I hear you've been having trouble with pigs and ponies. (WmC), Saturday, 17 November 2018 21:40 (two years ago) link

otm

flappy bird, Sunday, 18 November 2018 06:59 (two years ago) link

though I prefer Red they're pretty even, Blue towers over both

I finished the Dekalog yesterday

flappy bird, Sunday, 18 November 2018 06:59 (two years ago) link

The cinematography in Blue by Slawomir Idziak is just so great. Though perhaps it's even better in The Double Life of Veronique. The two other cinematographers aren't as good.

Frederik B, Sunday, 18 November 2018 13:28 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

red is finally my favorite

can't believe i've never posted in this thread before

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 February 2019 00:41 (one year ago) link

"buy a car! a new tv!" "what for? i never watch it. always the same crap. or... i could bury the money. put it in a little jar." "sure!" "that would be nice."

― difficult listening hour, Saturday, December 8, 2012

this scene is so fucking funny

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 February 2019 00:42 (one year ago) link

this is not directly trilogy related but man Blind Chance absolutely rules. I really need to find a copy of No End as well

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Sunday, 3 February 2019 01:05 (one year ago) link

i saw no end at the momi a few years ago. not a great movie for a first date but still: wonderful, kind of like if blue were a ghost story

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 February 2019 01:15 (one year ago) link

can anybody vouch for the movie he wrote but didn't direct? title escapes me rn

flappy bird, Sunday, 3 February 2019 01:26 (one year ago) link

heaven. never seen it

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 February 2019 01:27 (one year ago) link

nah it was this one, 'Big Animal' https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0246593/?ref_=nm_flmg_wr_7

thought about renting it but wasn't sure

flappy bird, Sunday, 3 February 2019 01:29 (one year ago) link

oh huh there was one that wasn't heaven???

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 February 2019 01:31 (one year ago) link

The only parts of Red for which I'll make allowances are the phone conversations with the boyfriend.

Otherwise my god Jean-Louis Trintignant.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 February 2019 03:57 (one year ago) link

Three Colours trilogy is on Amazon Prime at the moment, btw, in the UK at least.

Alba, Sunday, 3 February 2019 07:07 (one year ago) link

I chose Red. I love how whenever the film threatens to get pompous life interrupts: light bulbs go out, local boys ("Turks," grumbles the building superintendent) put chewing gum in locks. And there's always Irene Jacob, drinking pear brandy and listening with the most beautiful concentration ever.

― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, June 20, 2011 3:02 PM (seven years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is otm

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 February 2019 15:57 (one year ago) link

I know!

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 February 2019 16:17 (one year ago) link

i think the film's construction is remarkable. all those echoes in the images and dialogue, from scene to scene practically; with a heavier touch they'd be unbearable, with a lighter touch they'd be invisible

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 February 2019 16:21 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

a little nervous about this one still but https://www.brightwalldarkroom.com/2019/03/28/sonata-on-human-connection-red-1994/

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 29 March 2019 20:50 (one year ago) link

lol i forgot i cannibalized my last post in this thread for a sentence in this piece

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 29 March 2019 20:51 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

only got to this now but really wonderful piece, risk pays off imo

lowercase (eric), Thursday, 18 April 2019 19:27 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

yeah White is the best one

flappy bird, Saturday, 17 October 2020 04:01 (one month ago) link

hm!

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 October 2020 15:42 (one month ago) link

White was certainly may fav back in the day, for the humor. Funny, I almost revisited Red last night, for the first time in 15yrs or so.

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Saturday, 17 October 2020 16:13 (one month ago) link

Blue was one of the first movies I went for when the pandemic hit, I think it has an amazing opening sequence and stays good but nothing lives up to that tunnel or the extreme close up of the eye... Ditto for opening of Red, which is also funnier than I remember. White is just the most consistent one imo, and it's hilarious, with the other two I find myself looking at the cinematography, sort of disengaged from the story.

flappy bird, Saturday, 17 October 2020 17:18 (one month ago) link

like when he gets dumped out of the suitcase and looks up and says "I'M HOME!" and it's the most drab ugly looking patch of mud and snow with a bulldozer, and then cue the orchestra. lmao

flappy bird, Saturday, 17 October 2020 17:18 (one month ago) link

xxp I watched Red last night and White the night before--I watched Blue all the way back in March and for whatever reason didn't feel compelled to rewatch, glad I did

flappy bird, Saturday, 17 October 2020 17:20 (one month ago) link

xp i don't particularly like these films but this is for sure the best moment

devvvine, Saturday, 17 October 2020 19:50 (one month ago) link

red is stacked with amazing moments but i always enjoy hearing from white truthers

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 17 October 2020 19:53 (one month ago) link


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