oh for fuck's sake
― goole, Monday, 20 June 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
anyway, i read some of the lyrics & yeah they were pretty dumb in places, but it def seems like an album that
a. is rich enough in texture/arrangement/vocals etc that the lyrics don't HAVE to matterb. works from a lyrical standpoint if you stick to the phrases that make sense out of context & sorta let the other ones go in one ear & out the other
― J0rdan S., Monday, 20 June 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
nb i listened to half of the album once, but that was my impression
I tend to look at the number rating as an enthusiasm meter, which works perfectly fine for me.
It's like, Pitchfork has a ton of different ways to use itself as a resource, and the number system is just one method of entry, along with Best New Music, The Playlists, the news stuff, and the reviews themselves-- which I feel like mostly serve to put music (even throwaway bullshit albums) into a musical/cultural context that they've created. So for me, it works incredibly as a resource for finding new music, which is I think what it's intended for, right? They have a lot of access points that they're really great about cultivating, developing and maintaining. I think it's a great site that I frequently disagree with, and some bullshit sneaks in through various individual personalities.
But if you can't figure out how to use it, I don't know what to tell you. Cuz that ain't them, that's you.
― Parenthetical Grillz, Monday, 20 June 2011 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
goole: Last night, Justin Vernon brought an iteration of Bon Iver to Late Night with Jimmy Fallon that sounded neither like the muted folk of his 2007 breakthrough or the layered majesty of his forthcoming follow-up. Instead, he sang beside pianist Phil Cook--his best friend and former bandmate in DeYarmond Edison, and now a multi-instrumentalist in Megafaun--to play a beautiful and simple medley of hits by other people: "A Song for You," by Leon Russell via Donny Hathaway, and Bonnie Raitt's "I Can't Make You Love Me." It was one of the smartest television appearances by a band I've seen in a bit.
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 20 June 2011 17:33 (twelve years ago) link
I saw him perform the Raitt cover on ... Fallon, probably? ... and was bothered that he seemed to be deliberately avoiding the melodic line. But I really love the original song, so.
― Don Rickles on the Dime (jaymc), Monday, 20 June 2011 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
Ha, that was actually an xpost.
It also seemed so left-field to me, because all I really knew about this dude before this album was "Skinny Love," but it makes way more sense in the context of "Beth/Rest."
― Don Rickles on the Dime (jaymc), Monday, 20 June 2011 17:46 (twelve years ago) link
I can't get past his voice, and I'm not that fond of Asia.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 June 2011 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
cool geebs thx
― goole, Monday, 20 June 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link
the vocals remind me of tvotr, theyre a bit more annoying in this context of less cool sounds but not the worst
― flopson, Monday, 20 June 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
In reply to sickmouthy:
I thought long and hard about this and came to the conclusion that the album was more like a 9.6 than 9.5. These Pitchfork dudes know nothing.
― yugi ex, Monday, 20 June 2011 20:54 (twelve years ago) link
i was kinda disappointed that the new tvotr was missing the p gabriel 80s synth-rock vibe but this gets pretty close to hitting that spot
― ☂ (max), Monday, 20 June 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link
why don't you just marry peter gabriel already
― J0rdan S., Monday, 20 June 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link
you should stand outside his house with a boombox
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Monday, 20 June 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link
and play a toto song.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Monday, 20 June 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
or just beth/rest
― ☂ (max), Monday, 20 June 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
bon iver's cover of "come talk to me" is kind of sweet, not nearly as good as the raitt cover tho
― ☂ (max), Monday, 20 June 2011 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
Prefer his cover of "Big Time" with Four Tet and Grizzly Bear tbh
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 June 2011 22:29 (twelve years ago) link
Reminds me of the South Park episode where someone told Stan was told to win Wendy back he'd have to stand outside her house playing a Peter Gabriel song on a boombox. Cut to him standing there with "Shock the Monkey" playing.
― Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Monday, 20 June 2011 22:30 (twelve years ago) link
^ poor structure, but you get it.
― Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Monday, 20 June 2011 22:31 (twelve years ago) link
after making an "experimental" and at least half successful attempt to get into this record a month ago, i haven't once been tempted to return to it.
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Monday, 20 June 2011 22:55 (twelve years ago) link
you made an experimental attempt to get into the album? did you listen to it while hanging upside down or what
― J0rdan S., Monday, 20 June 2011 22:58 (twelve years ago) link
fuck, this is def filling the TVOTR void -- i didn't pick up on it until i put it on headphones
― J0rdan S., Monday, 20 June 2011 23:09 (twelve years ago) link
the way he sings that bonnie rait song should be a dealbreaker but then it is somehow the complete opposite of a dealbreaker and the song breaks through and i'm crying either way so.
never listed to for emma, from the forest but i will check this guy out on the strength of the cover.
― Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Monday, 20 June 2011 23:22 (twelve years ago) link
yes
xx
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Monday, 20 June 2011 23:23 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Monday, June 20, 2011 7:09 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is encouraging cause new tvotr is a snooze
― call all destroyer, Monday, 20 June 2011 23:26 (twelve years ago) link
yes it is
― J0rdan S., Monday, 20 June 2011 23:31 (twelve years ago) link
His phrasing is exquisite, but, wow, that Raitt cover (which I just heard) left me cold. Rather appropriate that he stretched out the "Don't patronize me" line.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 June 2011 23:42 (twelve years ago) link
i've never liked tvotr like at all.
― goole, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:58 (twelve years ago) link
youre just not trying hard enough, probably
― ☂ (max), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 01:04 (twelve years ago) link
to me his only serious misstep there - Raitt's delivery of that line sets a ridiculously high bar though
― frog in a bs place (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 01:24 (twelve years ago) link
I can't get past his voice, and I'm not that fond of Asia.― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, June 20, 2011 5:47 PM (Yesterday)
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, June 20, 2011 5:47 PM (Yesterday)
^I have no idea how I feel about this album yet, but this is an excellent sentence.
― Fruitless and Pansy Free (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:54 (twelve years ago) link
Colbert interview right now is lolz. Gonna do "Calgary" after the commercial break.
― Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 03:50 (twelve years ago) link
a second opinion
― Davey D, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 07:20 (twelve years ago) link
Hrm. Can see that getting replaced down the road.
― Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 07:22 (twelve years ago) link
do we still use enya as a generic stand-in for "shlocky aural wallpaper"?
and geez, two-and-a-half? that's a one-star review if i've ever read one. "overblown debacle," ouch. sounds like someone didn't get what they wanted for christmas.
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 07:29 (twelve years ago) link
yeah overblown is pretty lol considering one of the first things that jumps out is the careful arrangements
― Cosmo Vitelli, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 08:34 (twelve years ago) link
which btw remind me more of Antony than anyone
― Cosmo Vitelli, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 08:35 (twelve years ago) link
man fuck enya haters
― Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 02:31 (twelve years ago) link
it's always hilarious when some indie album gets a lot of attention and people who would never in a million years have listened to it otherwise get all up in arms about it
then again that sentence is probably true just as a generalization with all genres - it's hilarious/boring when some (metal, rap, bossa) album gets a lot of attention and people get all OH NOT DON'T YOU REALIZE IT'S HORRIBLE
― frog in a bs place (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 04:12 (twelve years ago) link
all right so i am listening to this for the first time at 2 am which feels pretty right, okay
this is a very pretty thing
― Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 06:14 (twelve years ago) link
wasn't going to check this out before the 9.5, now i am going to check this out
― don't waste your time on me, you're already the post inside my thread (markers), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 06:20 (twelve years ago) link
I kind of have to rmde at all the "OMG where in the world did 'Beth/Rest' come from?!?!" comments from critics who, by saying that, admit that they really haven't been paying all that much attention Vernon since For Emma. I mean, if you heard the (pre-Kanye) "Woods" and the Gayngs album, this wouldn't come as that big of a shock.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
should we be bringing up green gartside or would that set people's teeth on edge...
― goole, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
Passed by a coworker watching the Colbert appearance and I idly noted Bon I. sitting there surrounded by people doing deliberate handclaps and I was all "Huh."
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
When discussing, say, Destroyer, sure. This guy don't know about rhythm.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
I prefer the Sean Carey album.
― djh, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
That Allmusic review is an embarrassment.
― Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
performance on fallon was kinda O_O -- sorta lol'd at giving his own band the gas face
anyway it made me think of sufjan, altho their recorded music is different in many, many ways
― frogbracist (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 22:53 (twelve years ago) link