Thread for coordinating the order and timing of ILM ballot polls

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true-ish, although Steely Dan has some great unreleased songs most people don't know that i'd be youtubing all over the place trying to drum up support for

some dude, Saturday, 18 June 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

what happens if someone starts a rogue ballot poll

J0rdan S., Saturday, 18 June 2011 20:49 (twelve years ago) link

eh like 5 xp

iatee, Saturday, 18 June 2011 20:49 (twelve years ago) link

for the most part the dan aren't one of those 'treasure trove of unreleased stuff' bands. they have those early demos which aren't super interesting and then the gaucho stuff which is great but that's about it.

iatee, Saturday, 18 June 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link

to me the interesting part of these threads isn't so much the 'which rarity might sneak in' as much as the enthusiastic discussion and dissection of 'why' these tracks are the best.

why i am an anarcho-sandwich artist (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 June 2011 20:53 (twelve years ago) link

lol jordan

some dude, Saturday, 18 June 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

for the most part the dan aren't one of those 'treasure trove of unreleased stuff' bands. they have those early demos which aren't super interesting and then the gaucho stuff which is great but that's about it.

― iatee, Saturday, June 18, 2011 4:51 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

and "This All Too Mobile Home" and "Westside Story"!!! but yeah i see your point.

some dude, Saturday, 18 June 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

what happens if someone starts a rogue ballot poll

― J0rdan S., Saturday, June 18, 2011 8:49 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

autobanned.

banished to the cape.

forced to post on wdyll in underwear.

i love the smell of facepalm in the morning (ledge), Saturday, 18 June 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link

Is this the status as of now still?

1. pet shop boys - billy dods
2. Beatles - Mark G
3. beach boys - iatee
4. __________
5. __________
6. __________
7. Led Zeppelin - WmC

Because I bailed on the Madonna idea, but Guided By Voices keeps nagging at me and I'm finally giving in. So put me down for Guided By Voices at #6.

Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:16 (twelve years ago) link

1. pet shop boys - billy dods
2. Beatles - Mark G
3. beach boys - iatee
4. __________
5. __________
6. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever
7. Led Zeppelin - WmC

iatee, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:21 (twelve years ago) link

the winner of some dude's poll can be zero I guess idk

iatee, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:21 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not in charge, somebody be in charge

iatee, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:21 (twelve years ago) link

Cool -- without objection, I'm going to bump LZ to 5.

1. pet shop boys - billy dods
2. Beatles - Mark G
3. beach boys - iatee
4. __________
5. Led Zeppelin - WmC
6. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever
7. __________

Something dancey/electronic, or a label poll at 4? Madonna would be great if anybody wants to take up the challenge.

Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:22 (twelve years ago) link

When I started thinking about remixes, etc. the nightmare became vivid.

Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:26 (twelve years ago) link

guh...I didn't think of that. votesplitters...

Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:29 (twelve years ago) link

Votes are for the song, write-in/on for remixes...

Mark G, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 06:38 (twelve years ago) link

So when is it kicking off for the PSB's?

Are we waiting on the end of the Manics one first? Fair enough.

Suggsting: some sort of generic poll-thread title, e.g.

ILX Tracks Poll No 1 : Pet Shop Boys

Mark G, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 08:32 (twelve years ago) link

I like the uniformity in titling idea. Easier to search for in the future.

Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 08:37 (twelve years ago) link

Any chance we could move either the Beatles or the Beach Boys back a bit? It's getting so canonical white dudes that there'll be minimal interest in doing anything else after we've trawled through everyone in Q magazine.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 08:47 (twelve years ago) link

Well, everyone else has backed off, timewise.

There's the Manics one up at the mo, the Pavement one just finished, the MC Tunes is taking it's time, just like his second album, so the pace is fairly leisurely.

I hesitate to suggest, but the Beach Boys' "Smile" is coming out fairly soon (the single is out already), so...

Mark G, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 08:52 (twelve years ago) link

(hopefully) BIG 50s decade trax poll coming sometime in July as well. Would hate for it to face one of these head to head, so I'll figure out what week that will roll out and let whomever is coordinating these know so a gap in the flow can be predetermined.

Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 08:55 (twelve years ago) link

I mean, yeah I'd love someone to do a James Brown one, but do we collectively have the required knowledge to vote? I mean, I have the "Star Time" box which is pretty nice and all encompassing as these things go, but is that enough?

Mark G, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 09:06 (twelve years ago) link

There are shitloads of James Brown fans on ILM, surely?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 09:24 (twelve years ago) link

If we want to make it a little less white then a labels poll such as Motown, Stax or Trojan or a genre poll such as disco (1975-80) or Northern Soul would fit in. I think a Wu-Tang and its members poll would be good too.

Cluster the boots (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 10:47 (twelve years ago) link

Any chance we could move either the Beatles or the Beach Boys back a bit? It's getting so canonical white dudes that there'll be minimal interest in doing anything else after we've trawled through everyone in Q magazine.
--Matt DC

yeah you can move me to 9 or something

iatee, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 11:30 (twelve years ago) link

A Motown poll would be neato keen-o.

Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 14:32 (twelve years ago) link

You can put me in to run Prince if you like - having fun doing the Manics one.

I guess Neil Young and Dylan are other ones that would be good due to the huge discogs, but i do agree on the less rock white dudes quota. Think a Jacksons one would be good - so Michael, Janet, Jackson 5, any family member.

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

I'd love to see a Stax or Motown poll. The problem with genre polls like "disco" is that they descend into a flamewar about what does or does not belong to the genre.

i wanna be yr rhizome (seandalai), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 22:09 (twelve years ago) link

hmmm should I do a P-Funk poll

winoa ryder sexes creatures of the night (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

I dunno if I have the spreadsheetery skills/will to do this tbh

winoa ryder sexes creatures of the night (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

I was toying with doing a Disco one. Keep those wide open is the best way I say, and let the voters decide whether they're happy with a track as disco. It worked fine on the showcasing poll, except that The Cure sneaked into the top 5.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 22:23 (twelve years ago) link

Oh man, my job is Excel-based so now I imagining formatting possibilities and vlookup potential.. but I'm only good for Belle & Sebastian, Pulp or Modest Mouse, I'm not nearly enough of a completist for most other bands now that Blur's been done.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 01:33 (twelve years ago) link

Alright, I made an excel file that should be useful, hopefully.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZQBPGXI6

Basically it's got a sheet where you dump in the songs and their ranks, and a formula that compares rank to point value which is listed on a separate sheet. Then there are suggestions and examples for making a pivot table to corral the data, or a suggestion for doing it manually.

I hope it's useful! /nerd

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

^^if I didn't make it clear.. I'm really hoping someone will find it useful. This is why I chose computers over English ;)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

I'll do Pulp at #4 if no one else objects? Understand if too close to Pulp/Manics/Boos. Mostly I just want to play with my Excel file now.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

I hope it's useful! /nerd

― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, June 22, 2011 10:11 AM (6 minutes ago)

I'll say! I was dreading doing all that ciphering manually. Thank you!

Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

No problem. I've got this thread bookmarked so if there are any glitches, let me know!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

Neeto!

Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

I love a good excel file. Been so jealous of jaymc.xls for so long!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

:-)

Ok, I thought about this long and hard, and I really want to host a Kate Bush songs poll. Put me down. I'm down.

...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 23 June 2011 00:47 (twelve years ago) link

1. pet shop boys - billy dods
2. Beatles - Mark G
3. ________________
4. Pulp - Finefinemusic
5. Led Zeppelin - WmC
6. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever
7. Kate Bush - Le Bateau Ivre
8. _________________
9. beach boys - iatee

Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Thursday, 23 June 2011 01:29 (twelve years ago) link

a Pet Shop Boys Poll! My brain is already hurting.

Gukbe, Thursday, 23 June 2011 01:31 (twelve years ago) link

excited about the zep/GBV/KB succession. i think i could really get behind all three of those.

charlie h, Thursday, 23 June 2011 01:33 (twelve years ago) link

Oh shit wait. What is the timing of this? Because I'm getting married aug 20 and I feel like poll #4 will be mid august; I gotta swap out for a later spot, don't need added activities!!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 23 June 2011 01:54 (twelve years ago) link

You must delay the marriage!

Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 23 June 2011 01:56 (twelve years ago) link

congratulations, finefinemusic!

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 23 June 2011 01:56 (twelve years ago) link

These shouldn't take more than a week per, imo. Depends on whether you think late July will be stressful enough already.

Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Thursday, 23 June 2011 02:03 (twelve years ago) link

It might be; month end at work and tying up loose ends (I'm not getting a lot of help planning this stuff, haha) but I can happily do a poll after September 20 (late honeymoon).

Thanks for the good vibes!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 23 June 2011 02:30 (twelve years ago) link

HEY! HEY!!! Put me down for Prince ;-)

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Thursday, 23 June 2011 07:29 (twelve years ago) link

Pet Shop Boys are go!

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Thursday, 23 June 2011 08:44 (twelve years ago) link


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