**the-dream terry nash love king the-poll**

didnt realize 'fila' was so huge

Have you heard it?

it's def in my top 3 and i might've come closer to voting for it if t.i. was on the album version, but anything besides "yamaha" winning reeks of contraristanning imo

lol nope never heard it

See, that's crazy to me cos while i love Yamaha, i just don't appreciate it on the gut level that i do FILA. I can admire Yamaha from a distance but FILA just hits my pleasure centres every time. xpost

huh im the opposite w/ those two

the-dream is v v good at hitting those pleasure centers tho for sure

i love "f.i.l.a." but would never have picked it as the most likely to upset "yamaha"!

find it fairly amusing f.i.l.a. wins when make up bag was deeemed somehow offensive or "odious" by a few people. pretty sure "quiet woman i bought you a make up bag", as offensive as that may be pales in significance to pretty much the entire f.i.l.a. lyric. dumb and all as opening that can of worms is anyway.

i find it funny that any of terius' songs are being judged on offensiveness at all, the man has always been a cad

yeah exactly. i hardly think "oh look at his horrible habit of buying 5k make up bags to stop his gf suspecting he has cheated" is the sudden appearance of a monster we never knew.

his caddish tendencies are always balanced out by his inadequacies in any case. "make up bag" is a massive faux pas, and indicative of a man with no clue about how relationships work, which is why it's funny i guess? but it's not that great a song, relative to the rest imo.

I love the-dream in lovestruck mode, but find his "how to be a playa" tunes mostly off-putting. "offensive" may be the wrong word.

i was WAY more off-put by almost all of Usher's Confessions. it's almost as if he set the groundwork for Chris Brown years later -- "here's how to spin something hurtful you did to someone else and make it all about you!"

(but I still like the album)

is terius ever really lovestruck? more often luststruck, surely, and that fits pretty naturally with the "how to be a playa" side of things

i mean, how often does he actually get starry-eyed about a girl's personality as opposed to her titties like woo-oo-oo, her booty like woo-oo-oo.

yeah exactly. i hardly think "oh look at his horrible habit of buying 5k make up bags to stop his gf suspecting he has cheated" is the sudden appearance of a monster we never knew.

― MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Saturday, June 18, 2011 5:33 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

that's a pretty loose characterization of what i said about the song and fwiw FILA was never a single so i never really heard it enough to pay attention to the whole lyric and catch the cheating angle of it.

well in the lyrics to "make up bag" there isn't even necessarily a cheating angle. he denies cheating and it's arguably just as much about him being out partying and his wife thinking he has cheated, which obv like in the context of every other song is prob not unreasonable.

i mean yes telling the guys "oh just buy her something" is pretty lame but i've bought presents for gf when i fucked up before, it's not monstrous patriarchy or something. obv if it's a case of "oh there goes another 5k for a makeup bag" that's a bit different but i just think "odious" is a bit strong.

the utterly triumphant "SO SHE LET ME DO HERRR" in fila seems fairly obviously more offputting to me, if i thought about it, but i don't really seek people i morally agree with in music.

luststruck then, and I think there's a big difference in feel between those tunes and the tunes where he's just focused on how great he is.

the utterly triumphant "SO SHE LET ME DO HERRR"

no this is hilarious c'mon

the-dream lines like that are so close to the lonely island's "i just had sex"

Basically anything where the-dream sounds like a kid opening Christmas presents is good IMO.

lol

yeah it is pretty funny. i said if i thought about it or decided to try and find things i was put off by. i find the "make up bag" funny too though, like he's imparting this sage advice to all the men, "i'm such a genius no girl has ever realised my amazing ploy."

*the "make up bag" lyrics

yeah i feel you -- i already explained itt and in another one why "make up bag" touched a nerve with me personally and i'm not really telling anyone else what to think about it

have this same conflict re Make Up Bag in particular - love the sound, hate the sentiment (don't give a fuck about its technical quality as a song), will always delight and frustrate in equal measure. same goes for the title track (dope piano chords and self harmonies, awful shit like "sorry ladies but there ain't nothing like a smart bitch"). but it's 'in character' etc. and maybe prince wrote something just as bad one time and i've just not noticed.

could care less about the sentiment and just think it sounds like ass

^new board description

didn't we already use that one

The panning drums on the title track are really doing it for me today. Still his third-best album but I feel like since it came out I've forgotten how enjoyable minor Terius is.

insane that 'sorry' got zero votes

also dream is the only artist to constantly get away with using the millennial whoop

TURNT OUT

― b.o.s.e. (banned ones still envy) (J0rdan S.), Saturday, June 4, 2011 1:56 AM (eleven years ago)

Probably the album I've played the most since it dropped.