Now I know those numbers look impressive to a Mets fan
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/1598/ohsnap2yv8.gif
― bite this display name (k3vin k.), Friday, 17 June 2011 03:52 (twelve years ago) link
Beane struggled after he had to trade away his core players, lost his support staff to other front offices, had to cut payroll, had to adapt after other front offices wised up, etc. etc. could give the story a really interesting second act. If the movie stays entirely in the world of the book, then it's a missed opportunity, because that cultural moment in baseball was fascinating.
― polyphonic, Friday, 17 June 2011 04:01 (twelve years ago) link
"The world of the book" IS the fucking story.
don't worry Shasta, I'm sure Kevin Costner will make another baseball film just for you soon.
― already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 June 2011 11:26 (twelve years ago) link
I think Beane is very much a victim of his own success. When Moneyball came out maybe one or two teams where leverage advanced statistics to make personnel decisions. Now it's at least double that number. He doesn't have his original edge and there just aren't that many under-valued players around to build into a team.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 June 2011 12:36 (twelve years ago) link
I will say one more thing, Beane/the A's seem to have lost no ability to recognize good pitching talent (either via trade or the draft). The inability to build a decent lineup has become their downfall.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 June 2011 12:38 (twelve years ago) link
A source with knowledge of the situation said the A's are trying to trade for Seattle infielder Chone Figgins, and that current A's third baseman Kevin Kouzmanoff and perhaps a pitcher could be shipped to the Mariners in return.as i'm to understand, Figgins would block a trade to Oakland.not a good sign when someone would rather play for the Mariners than your team!― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, January 31, 2011 5:56 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
as i'm to understand, Figgins would block a trade to Oakland.
not a good sign when someone would rather play for the Mariners than your team!
― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, January 31, 2011 5:56 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
ha that should be the ending of the Moneyball movie.that and Billy Beane eating a chinese food box of egg noodle and ketchup, can't even get a marinara around here.― sanskrit, Monday, January 31, 2011 10:03 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark
that and Billy Beane eating a chinese food box of egg noodle and ketchup, can't even get a marinara around here.
― sanskrit, Monday, January 31, 2011 10:03 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark
― sanskrit, Friday, 17 June 2011 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
so Arliss Howard (Pvt Cowboy from Full Metal Jacket) has a small role in the film as John Henry. I guess he will swoop in for the third act to say "Now your methods are MINE, Beane! muahahaha." (Does Henry get much mention in the book? I don't recall.)
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:47 (twelve years ago) link
royce clayton playing miguel tejada is really tripping me up.
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:50 (twelve years ago) link
90% of this film's audience are only vaguely aware of who Miguel Tejada is, or are entirely ignorant. (ditto Art Howe etc)
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:57 (twelve years ago) link
seeing this for review next Tuesday. (They like to give the online writers a good 24-36 hours to crank something out.)
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link
http://meadowparty.com/blog/?p=1861
― A Chuck Person's Guide to Mark Aguirre (Andy K), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:33 (twelve years ago) link
That part about the Carlos Pena trade is pathetic. Definitely not seeing this p.o.s.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
oof.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:42 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe I'll catch it on cable.
― A Chuck Person's Guide to Mark Aguirre (Andy K), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:46 (twelve years ago) link
Not reading that (yet), but you guys do know that the key word in "based on a true story" is "based"?
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
No!
― A Chuck Person's Guide to Mark Aguirre (Andy K), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
Ouch. I'll wait for Morbs' review before deciding how long to put off seeing this.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:37 PM (1 hour ago)
lil b is in this?
― stalk me shithead (from the makers of tickle me elmo) (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
I thought it was "on"
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
I hope no one's told you that at the end Billy Beane kills Hitler in a movie theater.
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
Morbsies, did you like The Blind Side?
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
(if so, gfy)
oh hell, I don't see movies that have amything to do with football (or, hardly ever, Sandra Bullock). They sent me a disc and I've still never watched it.
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
It was pretty bad.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
so I assumed from the Oscar and the fortune it made
look at all the sneering that stuff like The Fighter got for being a pretty trad sports flick
see above! (2 Oscars)
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
It was regular bad, not Oscar bad.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
Brandon McCarthyMy tweets during the Moneyball premiere tonight will be brought to you by my crippling social awkwardness, and a need to be on my phone.
― polyphonic, Monday, 19 September 2011 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
well, I have to write this up, but there are vocal performances by Bob Costas and Tim McCarver!
And Pitt never says "My shit doesn't work in the playoffs."
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 03:06 (twelve years ago) link
like or no like?
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 21 September 2011 05:51 (twelve years ago) link
wait for it
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 11:26 (twelve years ago) link
http://0.media.sportspickle.cvcdn.com/22/95/d95516f8957255fe96cead3c5384ad78.jpg
― sanskrit, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
moneyball 2: the jack cust years
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
If this movie is a big hit, look for Ryan Gosling as Bill James in The Pork-and-Beans Genius.
If a medium hit, Zach Galafinakis.
(btw the scouts and Art Howe get off lighter in the book than here, quite predictably)
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
http://0.media.sportspickle.cvcdn.com/67/65/80b52b542773108c21528098493f2d43.jpg
― francisF, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
too bad you guys weren't cast as scouts, eh? whose trolly site is generating these?
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i liked that one better too
― sanskrit, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
sportspickle?
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
http://9.media.sportspickle.cvcdn.com/72/15/95e674e72648226fc43e6826bc2dcec5.jpg
"Joe Morgan Strikes Back", would be best imho.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
There's a brief audio clip of Morgan in the film too, and a very Morganesque speech castigating moneyball that's v/o'd by a Joe soundalike.
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
I always find it disorienting when Morgan is tagged as the anti-Sabermetrician (I mean, I understand why)--as a player, he was probably the first guy that James swooned over as the perfect sabermetric player.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
to use a metaphor I just read, the chef doesn't nec know how to run the restaurant
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
skipped the best one:
http://4.media.sportspickle.cvcdn.com/61/50/dd0d448499e6ef71e40a07c843c9545d.jpg
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 22 September 2011 00:59 (twelve years ago) link
so many Yankee fans
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 September 2011 02:26 (twelve years ago) link
That part about the Carlos Pena trade is pathetic.
What, that they reduced it from a 3-team trade to make the scene simpler? Movies do that shit all the time (no one cares), and that's the least of this one's problems.
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 September 2011 11:50 (twelve years ago) link
seeing this for review next Tuesday. (They like to give the online writers a good 24-36 hours to crank something out.)― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:16 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:16 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark
The Fog of WAR by Dr Morbius
― sanskrit, Thursday, 22 September 2011 13:15 (twelve years ago) link
Keep in mind that this was written for civilian readers. But I did work in E.M. Forster.
http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/moneyball/5768
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 September 2011 14:54 (twelve years ago) link
^^Nice review. I saw this last night, with a director talk afterward. I thought it was entertaining, at times meandering, and at times needlessly cheesy. I don't know enough about the book or baseball to be particularly offended by any of it. The best part was probabaly the Sorkin dialogue stuff, along with Brad Pitt's mugging for the camera. A few dudes in the audience were in full A's regalia.
― Virginia Plain, Thursday, 22 September 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link
great review morbs
― max, Thursday, 22 September 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link
I rather hate Sorkin. The John Henry-Beane scene in Fenway is an example of what he can do quite well. The quasi-screwball banter (Hatteberg and Justice on H's graeatest fear, the Hill/Pitt comedy act) I have little use for.
As a Mets fan, of course, I'm fine with Art Howe being portrayed as a mulish boob.
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 September 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
nice, thanks for posting
― sanskrit, Thursday, 22 September 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link