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THEY BANNED CUBA WTF

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 03:59 (fourteen years ago) link

total lamesville, dude.

it's not really a true competition w/o cuba. btw...the netherlands? is it safe to presume that there are pretty much no dudes from the continent on the team and it's all guys from the antilles and surinam?

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link

not so fast, Sir Ponson (pending any hard time) will be representing the Dutch contigent via Aruba.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link

When I read this the first thing I thought was that maybe Bush fears the Cuban team will feature some Iraqi/Afghan POWs from Guatanamo Bay who naturalized into Cuba... how long have some of those folks been held there?

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Stupid bullshit, but I'm guessing that something is worked out and Cuba plays.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link

is it safe to presume that there are pretty much no dudes from the continent on the team and it's all guys from the antilles and surinam?

i can only hope that win remmerswaal re-surfaces. he was a reliever with the bosox in the early 80's who had a lot of success at pawtucket then one year he never showed up for spring training. sox couldn't find him, his agent couldn't find him, everyone assumed he just went back to the netherlands. he had this scrunched up face with a fruity little mustache that made him look like clayton from the robert guillome vehicle Benson.

kt... (kt...), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

clayton endicott?

i thought aruba WAS part of the netherlands antilles? if not, i meant dutch holdings in the carribean.

oh, well. all bet that italian team is SWEET! can i get a lou merloni, please?

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link

And South Bay product Jason Simontacchi!

As for the Nederlanders: don't forget Rikkert Faneyte!

Obsessing over the unobtainable and nonexistent. (Leee), Thursday, 15 December 2005 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm hoping that Alex is right. Fuck a baseball tournament that can't find a way to include Cuba.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 15 December 2005 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean what happened in '96 when the Olympics wuz here? Cuba showed up then, right?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 December 2005 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

more nederlanders:

hensley "bam bam" meulens!

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Thursday, 15 December 2005 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Bert Blijleven could come out of retirement!

ojitarian (ojitarian), Friday, 16 December 2005 00:34 (fourteen years ago) link

"I think our policy regarding Cuba is pretty well known," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said. "We want people in Cuba to participate in freedom."

COCKPUNCH

maura (maura), Friday, 16 December 2005 02:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Can anyone in this fucking administration open their mouth and not sound like a fucking dong?

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 16 December 2005 02:52 (fourteen years ago) link

dave, don't you want to PARTICPATE IN THE FREEDOM of sounding like an mba dropout who had one too many 'late night strategy sessions'

maura (maura), Friday, 16 December 2005 02:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Alex Rodriguez told The Post yesterday he has decided not to participate in the inaugural WBC this March because he didn't want to dishonor his native America or the Dominican Republic, where his parents are from.

http://www.nypost.com/sports/yankees/58869.htm

maura (maura), Friday, 16 December 2005 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Why doesn't he play for both teams?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 16 December 2005 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Cuba banned by Bush

Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Have you guys seen the unis yet?

gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 7 January 2006 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Whoops:

http://shop.mlb.com/category/index.jsp?categoryId=2164444

gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 7 January 2006 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link

A lot of these designs are sub-minor league quality but here are some uni/cap designs I like:
China
Mexico
South Africa

gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 7 January 2006 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link

I like the "Dominicana" jersey okay, and the green Mexico cap isn't bad. But the interlocking Netherlands, South Africa, and DR logos? Ugh. Somehow the USA logo is even worse.

I'm assuming that since these are all BP jerseys, the official ones will be a little more tasteful, but the caps mostly look like they ripped off the team logos from Baseball Stars or something.

d4niel coh3n (dayan), Saturday, 7 January 2006 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Canada and the Dominican Republic look almost exactly the same. Maybe we can poach some of their players in the confusion.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 7 January 2006 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link

That chinese cap is mad thuggish

Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Saturday, 7 January 2006 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link

And the Mexican one is, like, World Cup '86 stylee.

Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Saturday, 7 January 2006 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link

"I would freak."

--former Boston GM Theo Epstein, on the prospect of seeing one of his pitchers compete in the WBC in March (Boston Herald)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 January 2006 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link

"I would freak."
--former Boston GM Theo Epstein, on the prospect of signing JT Snow for $2M/1yr. for 2006 (Boston Harold)

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 9 January 2006 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Alex Rodriguez is just so good at being a cockfarmer.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 9 January 2006 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Haha and he just flip-flopped. Who does this guy's publicity?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link

yep.

thanks, ofac.

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:12 (fourteen years ago) link

no Cuba, no credibility

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:39 (fourteen years ago) link

mo money, mo problems?

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link

StormyD OTFM

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link

This is fantastic. And I hope none of them defect.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 20 January 2006 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Rules announced for World Baseball Classic

January 26, 2006
NEW YORK (Ticker) - The World Baseball Classic took another step towards protecting its pitchers Thursday when the official rules for the inaugural event were announced.

With injuries a primary concern for many players and major league teams, the WBC has implemented strict pitch counts for each round of the event, which will run from March 3-20.

Pitchers can not pitch more than 65 pitches in the opening round, 80 in the second round and 95 in the semifinals and finals. Both managers and the umpire will be informed if the pitcher is within 20 of the limit at the start of the inning, although he will be allowed to surpass the limit to complete an at-bat.

There are also limits to how often a pitcher can pitch. If a pitcher throws at least 50 pitches, he must take the next four days off and one day off if he has thrown at least 30 pitches or thrown on consecutive days.

There are no restrictions on position players. However, no more than 14 players from one major league organization - or 10 on an active roster - will be allowed to participate.

The WBC also finalized the parameters for a mercy rule, which figures to be invoked in the earlier rounds, when powerhouses like the United States and the Dominican Republic face lesser countries like South Africa and Italy. Games will be called if one team is ahead by 10 runs after seven innings or by 15 after five.

The designated hitter rule will be used and winning and losing pitchers will be determined much like the All-Star Game, when the number of innings pitched will not be a factor. All players will be tested under the Olympic drug policy although a positive test for the WBC will not count under MLB's new steroid policy.

The teams in the World Baseball Classic will be divided into four pools and feature round-robin play in each of the first two rounds.

The top two teams from each pool advance to the second-round, where the same format will be used to determine who advances to the single-elimination semifinals and finals, which will be held at Petco Park in San Diego from March 18-20. Ties will be decided by head-to-head record in each round.

Japan will host the opening round in Pool A, which also includes Korea, China and Chinese Taipei, from March 3-6.

The top two finishers will travel to the United States for the second round to face the qualifiers from Pool B, which includes Team USA, beginning March 13.

Pool B also consists of Canada, Mexico and South Africa and will play in Arizona.

Puerto Rico will host Pool C, which also includes teams from the Netherlands, Panama and Cuba.

Pool D will be occupied by Australia, the Dominican Republic, Italy and Venezuela and play in Florida.

The WBC will be held again in 2009 and every four years thereafter.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 27 January 2006 01:14 (fourteen years ago) link

So what happens when you hit extra innings and run out of pitchers?

Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 27 January 2006 01:21 (fourteen years ago) link

rock/paper/scissors.

maura (maura), Friday, 27 January 2006 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link

part of me is convinced that they're just gonna cancel this thing

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Friday, 27 January 2006 15:21 (fourteen years ago) link

This is the real sports equivalent of battle of the network stars...

Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 27 January 2006 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link

the image of a-rod in a tight t-shirt and too-short shorts has popped in my mind now. thanks, jimmy mod.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 27 January 2006 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link

WBC and MLB squads should all adopt short shorts, like 80s basketball style.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 27 January 2006 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Long shorts permanently killed my interest in the NBA.

Joe Sheehan on the WBC rules:


[The pitch limits] look reasonable and conservative, the prudent thing to do. They’re not. Those numbers are each about two weeks ahead of where pitchers typically are in March, and even considering that those intending to compete in this thing have been planning on getting that kind of work, the numbers make me uncomfortable. You can’t find any examples of pitchers going 65 pitches before March 10, or 80 before March 20, in the last ten years. Pitchers just aren’t brought along that quickly.

What I don’t understand is why this isn’t more of an issue. The entire reason we have a six-week spring training is so that pitchers can ramp up from playing catch to throwing major-league innings. If not for the delicate nature of pitchers, you’d need about a week of workouts and maybe another week of games to get ready for the season. Yet now, because it’s convenient for MLB and its coffers, pitchers are going to be asked to do things they haven’t done in years, shift their schedule and be ready to throw competitive innings in early March. I think it’s a terrible idea, I have all along, and I will not be surprised to see more and more pitchers either beg off or have their teams do it for them as the season approaches.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 January 2006 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Is it too late to move the WBC to after the WS?

c(''c) (Leee), Friday, 27 January 2006 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link

it IS after the WS!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 27 January 2006 23:59 (fourteen years ago) link

i think it's kind of funny that hugo chavez is such a marxist crusader, but the venezuala ballcap looks like it could be a ballcao for a corporate softball team.

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link

ain't nothin non-corporate about marxism, amigo

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link

i guess it is a cottage industry.

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link

British bookies are offering the following odds:

Dominican Republic 11/10
U.S.A. 11/8
Venezuela 8/1
Japan 10/1
Puerto Rico 12/1
Cuba 16/1
Chinese Taipei 28/1
Korea 33/1
Mexico 50/1
Panama 66/1
Canada 66/1
Holland 200/1
Australia 500/1
Italy 500/1
South Africa 500/1
China 500/1

d4niel coh3n (dayan), Thursday, 2 February 2006 07:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Caribbean World Series being carried on YES in NY tonight (which I think is one of my cable channels that's out, fuckit).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Two outs, first base open, game on the line... why not walk Ichiro? (I had the volume down and could not hear the analysts.)

Andy K, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 13:44 (eleven years ago) link

They were asking the same thing.

WmC, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 14:21 (eleven years ago) link

Asked about allowing Suzuki to hit with two runners in scoring position instead of walking him intentionally, Kim replied: "I don't know why the pitcher tried to pitch directly to Ichiro. I did not understand. In the end, it did not work out for us. The pitcher and the catcher did not communicate well in terms of their signs. And in the end, that led to the hit by (Suzuki). Of course I have a regret as to what happened."

Suzuki said he wasn't surprised he wasn't walked.

"There was (Hiroyuki) Nakajima (on deck), and he is a batter you wanted to avoid," Suzuki said. "So there was a possibility for the bases to be loaded, and I knew they would want to fight against that, so I wasn't at all surprised."

Perhaps the translation is not perfect here, but maybe Kim should have told his pitcher to either walk Ichiro or give him nothing but pitches out of the zone (preferably high and tight).

Andy K, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 14:26 (eleven years ago) link

I've never, ever, been a fan of walking the bases loaded. Well done Korea!

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

Fidel's column:

http://www.granma.cu/ingles/2009/march/vier20/13reflex1-i.html

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

That is one awesome John Hancock.

Andy K, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

six years pass...

mark yr calendars, NYC

@AdamRubinESPN
The Sept. 22-25, 2016 World Baseball Classic qualifier at MCU Park in Brooklyn will include Brazil, Great Britain, Israel and Pakistan.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:04 (four years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Mets farmhands Champ Stuart and Blake Taylor will represent Great Britain and Ty Kelly, Tyler Herron and Josh Zeid will represent Israel in a World Baseball Classic qualifying tournament at Brooklyn's MCU Park Sept. 22-25. Ex-Mets Ike Davis and Josh Satin also will play for Israel. Brazil and Pakistan also are involved in the four-team tournament.

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 August 2016 19:46 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

pakistani team is . . . interesting

the entire bichette family is playing for brazil, which is managed by barry 'barinho' larkin and pitching coached by latroy hawkins

one of our number is actually at this game!

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 September 2016 17:30 (three years ago) link

what's the Fri night or Sat matinee action?

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 September 2016 17:37 (three years ago) link

https://twitter.com/richardgin/status/779010620406530048

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 September 2016 17:40 (three years ago) link

looks like there are plenty o' seats for Britain vs whoever tomw night

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 September 2016 17:42 (three years ago) link

pakistani outfielders are taking suboptimal routes

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 September 2016 17:48 (three years ago) link

Brazil 10, Pakistan 0

GB v Israel up next

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 September 2016 19:52 (three years ago) link

aw man

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 22 September 2016 19:52 (three years ago) link

i thought about staying for two but it was so f-ing hot

How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 22 September 2016 21:17 (three years ago) link

but yeah PAK had some wretched baserunning mistakes, including wasting a first inning single by getting doubled off K-2U, 2-3 and getting thrown the fuck out at 3rd. PAK 2B and SS had p decent gloves but no one had any defensive arm to speak of. 3B at least one-hopped every throw. C had like a 3 second pop time the game could have been over after 5 if BRA had just run at every opportunity

How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 22 September 2016 21:20 (three years ago) link

i was wondering if pakistan/non-traditional baseball teams could be very inventive or aggressive w/ defensive positioning because of a) skill level (no power...) and b) no entrenched culture of 'right way-ness'. I thought they could have gone w/ a 5 man IF for the 7th inning when things were falling apart. none of the IF were really rangy enough to make a drawn in infield work so u cld hedge by bringing ur LF in to cover over 2B

How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 22 September 2016 21:23 (three years ago) link

are there tix on the door for the 7pm game tomorrow?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 23 September 2016 02:11 (three years ago) link

seems likely

on the televised feed today there was an extended shot of a (white american) pitching coach in the pakistan bullpen demonstrating to the relievers in great detail how, with runners on base, to come set and not balk. it's cool that they got to participate but it does make one wonder why they were chosen rather than the mongolians or carpathians or whomever

as with the current world cup of hockey (team europe! but not the czechs, russians or scandanavians), it's a ham-handed way of pretending that one's niche sport is globally relevant

mookieproof, Friday, 23 September 2016 02:25 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

Tigers coach Omar Vizquel in limbo as Venezuela manager for WBC

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/mlb/tigers/2016/12/02/detroit-tigers-omar-vizquel-venezuela-world-baseball-classic/94832596/

Omar Vizquel is waiting for a phone call.

He is waiting to hear from former Detroit Tiger Carlos Guillen, general manager of the Venezuelan World Baseball Classic team, whom reportedly removed Vizquel from his managerial post earlier in the week.

Vizquel, the Tigers’ first base coach, has been in limbo since Tuesday night’s reports, which were only the first of a number of twists and turns. On Wednesday, the Venezuelan Baseball Federation said Vizquel remained manager. That same day, ESPN Deportes reported Braves coach Eddie Perez would replace Vizquel.

According to multiple Venezuelan media reports, the confusion has stemmed from a conflict between Vizquel and Guillen, who played eight seasons in Detroit. In the days since, a number of Venezuelan players have come to Vizquel’s defense, including Tigers designated hitter Victor Martinez.

On the Los Crosnistas radio show, Martinez went as far as to say he would not participate in the WBC if Vizquel did not manage the team. Many other players have followed suit, including Mariners starting pitcher Felix Hernandez, Cubs reliever Hector Rondon and Rockies outfielder Gerardo Parra. Other Tigers slated to play for Venezuela in the WBC: First baseman Miguel Cabrera, starter Anibal Sanchez and relievers Francisco Rodriguez and Bruce Rondon.

Vizquel, 49, is entering his fourth season as the Tigers’ first base coach. He is considered one of the best fielding shortstops of all-time, winning 11 Gold Glove Awards. He is a native of Caracas, Venezuela.

Of note: The Tigers weren’t expected to non-tender any of their six arbitration-eligible players: Third baseman Nick Castellanos, shortstop Jose Iglesias, utilityman Andrew Romine, right-handed relievers Bruce Rondon and Alex Wilson, and lefty Justin Wilson. The deadline to non-tender such players is 11:59 p.m. on Dec. 2.

Andy K, Monday, 5 December 2016 22:06 (three years ago) link

@beckjason
Omar Vizquel and Carlos Guillen together at WBC media session. They said they’ve ironed out differences.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy8arfTVQAATriL.jpg

Andy K, Monday, 5 December 2016 22:09 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

2021 semifinals and final will be in miami, march 21-23

earlier rounds in taiwan, tokyo and phoenix

mookieproof, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 16:37 (three months ago) link


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