New List to rip apart: Revolver Mag's 69 Greatest Metal Albums of All Time

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Siegbran while I sympathize with the position that there's nothing as exciting/turbulent going on in metal at the moment as there was a few years back, I have to disagree with your conclusion, which seems to be (correct me if I'm wrong) that innovation is to be privileged over all else. I have a bunch of perverse & boring aesthetic reasons for my own take on things, but isn't working on an existing model & perfecting it at least no less interesting than being inventive? To my ears the new Hate Eternal is a quite stunning & brilliant work, even though it's just death metal -- better produced and louder than those early groundbreaking Morbid Angel records, but also better than them, even if it's not leaping out into empty air with some bold new idea. I think the records that Northern Heritage is putting out are wonderful, intentionally unoriginal & great. Innovation vs. working on extant models: discuss, if you like.

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Saturday, 21 September 2002 00:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

defenders of the faith was always my favourite judas priest record. and ride the lightning is the best metallica record.

― keith (keithmcl), Saturday, 21 September 2002 01:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Northern Heritage have a very strong roster indeed with Deathspell Omega, Clandestine Blaze and Pest. I love their stuff as much as the next guy - plus, any label releasing Ildjarn on vinyl gets my support... There aren't too many labels anymore that are really a guarantee for a good album. If you look at the roster of, say, Hammerheart or Napalm you'll have one quality band for every ten sub-par bunch of lowlifes who wouldn't recognize a good riff if Lemmy handed it to them on a plate. Barbarian Wrath (Countess, Megiddo, etc) and Drakkar are especially high-quality labels who generally release 'generic' material. No Colours has let me down quite a bit with some spectacular duds like Juvenes but they're still going strong.

I do have the feeling sometimes that I should get away from the scene and re-enter a few years later - perhaps in the last fifteen years I've been numbing myself with hundreds of albums to the point that only the stuff that stands out as different (sound, structure, whatever) gets my blood flowing. On the other hand, I thoroughly enjoyed the last few Decayed albums which are basically excellent "The Return" ripoffs, and the Cutthroat "Rape! Rape! Rape!" covers-of-old-thrash-bands CD was pretty great too, in terms of headbanging/air guitar playing appeal (something you don't get with your average 90s influenced band). But somehow to me the bar lies higher for artists that "work on existant models". I could rave about Megiddo, Maniac Butcher, Black Witchery, Nile or Abigail but somehow I can't really convince myself they're really something worthy of being in an "all time greats" list. Perhaps in retrospect I will appreciate them more than I do now.

I actually haven't heard the latest Hate Eternal album, although I keep hearing wonderful things about it from everyone. I guess I should take a hint...

― Siegbran Hetteson (eofor), Saturday, 21 September 2002 15:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

More fun for nu-metal haytas!

http://www.entertainment.inuk.com/music/numetalguide.html

Awful Link of the Day

Crypt of the Lost Souls (thanks Roland) - In sticking with the theme of today's update, here is a website filled with angst called the "Crypt of the lost souls." Filled with horrifying satanism and gothic-ness, it's a testament to hell that the dark lord himself could be proud of. It's run by a 16 year old boy named Chris who could most definitely pass for a 14 year old girl.

http://medlem.spray.se/metalalbums/blackmetal.htm

― Lord Custos Alpha (Lord Custos Alpha), Saturday, 21 September 2002 22:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

This rant pretty much sums up my views why so very little good BM gets released. And why the whole NSBM stuff is so terribly tiresome.

― Siegbran Hetteson (eofor), Saturday, 21 September 2002 22:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

all lists are pointless, soulless, rockist, music destroying exercises; also, Dio's 'Holy Diver' should be at least three places higher.

― thom west (thom w), Sunday, 22 September 2002 00:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

Siegbran, is that page yours? Good stuff. I'm fonder of death metal than black metal largely for reasons cited on that page -- of course there used to be a pretty tight/yucky scene mentality in death metal but I think that's largely gone or in remission.

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 22 September 2002 02:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

excellent observations throughout - for a newer Black band that's quite good, how about Opeth? Then there's the rather odd Burnie band who got arrested due to cover and lyric imagery - Intense Hammer Rage.

― threemetalinsects (threemetalinsects), Sunday, 22 September 2002 07:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

it's an okay list. No Annihilator or Xentrix though.

― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 22 September 2002 08:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

What scares me is I own more of those albums (7? 8?) than I own on many of the other lists posts on ILM.

Argh! You can take the girl out of white trash, but the white trash RUBS OFF ON the girl!

― kate, Sunday, 22 September 2002 11:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hm, I have 24. Unsurprising.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 22 September 2002 16:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

Siegbran, is that page yours?
No, it's not mine. I don't know those guys, I just discovered the site it's from a week ago, and it's surprisingly insightful.

― Siegbran Hetteson (eofor), Monday, 23 September 2002 12:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've got ten of them. Ah, the early teenage years of having to save up to buy albums!

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 23 September 2002 16:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

seven months pass...

lets let the new crew attack this list before we retire this thread to dustbin of history one last time.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 11:09 (twenty years ago) link

Where the hell was "I Get Wet"?

― Nick H, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:47 (twenty years ago) link

I'm so embarrassed by my reference to "Teeny Marie" [sic] on this thread.

― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 15 May 2003 00:45 (twenty years ago) link

Is metal the most male genre ever?
There's not a single woman in any of the bands in that listy is there?

Rightly so, I can't think of a single good female metal band.

Why? Girls are great at other genres.

― mei (mei), Thursday, 15 May 2003 10:24 (twenty years ago) link

Wasn't there a Dallas Smith who played for the Bruins back in the 70s?

― dave q, Thursday, 15 May 2003 10:38 (twenty years ago) link

Kittie, obv

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 15 May 2003 10:47 (twenty years ago) link

There was a pretty good crustcore/metal band in Ottawa in the mid-late-90s called Warfare State. They had a woman singer.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 15 May 2003 18:45 (twenty years ago) link

I know it's been said already but - Prometheus at #5? WTF? It's alright but it's not even close to being Emperor's best.

― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 15 May 2003 19:33 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...

WTF?? WHERE IS AENIMA BY TOOL? THAT WAS ONE OF THE BEST METAL ALBUMS OF THE 1990S!!!, AND BETTER YET, WHERE IS BENEATH THE REMAINS BY SEPULTURA??? AND WHAT REALLY GETS TO ME- HOW THE HELL DO YOU PUT KORN, AND SLIPKNOT ON THE LIST BEFORE CONSIDERING SEPULTURA, OR TOOL!!!!, OH WELL, AT LEAST A GOOD PORTION OF THE LIST MADE SENSE, AND IM GLAD TO SEE THAT THEY ALSO INCLUDED COWBOYS FROM HELL BY PANTERA ON THE LIST, INSTEAD OF JUST VULGAR DISPLAY OF POWER, BOTH ARE CLASSIC RECORDS!!!

― RENDEZVOUS, Wednesday, 18 June 2003 19:48 (twenty years ago) link

Montrose, "Montrose"
Deep Purple, "Machine Head"

>I can't think of a single good female metal band

Precious Metal, "That Kind of Girl"

― Chris Clark (Chris Clark), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 20:00 (twenty years ago) link

HATEBREED!!!
POISON THE WELL

SUCK!

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 20:46 (twenty years ago) link

I don't know much about metal. I like some of it. I don't like some of it. I'm glad they had Jerusalem on the list, as it's a pretty great album to chill out to. Other choices I approve of: Godflesh, Emperor, Hendrix, AC/DC, Kiss... though I don't know how much the last three qualify as what most people think of as "metal" today. At least in my experience, if you talk about liking metal the person will assume you're talking about speed/death metal. Weird definition, certainly.

Two Pantera albums and only one Sabbath album has to be criminal.

Why the hell are Bad Brains, Misfits and, to a lesser extent, Jane's Addiction on this list? They don't seem very metal to me.

― Ian Johnson, Wednesday, 18 June 2003 20:53 (twenty years ago) link

Misfits and Faith No More are way too low!

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 21:13 (twenty years ago) link

Fuck Faith no More and everything Mike Patton has done, is doing and ever will do.

― Ian Johnson, Wednesday, 18 June 2003 22:20 (twenty years ago) link

three years pass...

1. misfits - earth ad

― Aditya (dan138zig), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Is that you, Glen?

― js (honestengine), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

four years pass...

66. GODFLESH - Streetcleaner
64. SLEEP - Jerusalem
60. DARKTHRONE - Transylvanian Hunger

[...]

21. KORN - Follow The Leader
17. SLIPKNOT - Slipknot
7. RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE - Rage Against The Machine

― thank you ilxor for starting this much needed thread (ilxor), Friday, 11 March 2011 05:13 (thirteen years ago) link

CHRISTBAIT RISING
BULLS ON PARADE

― There's nothing left alive but a pair of ashy thighs (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 11 March 2011 09:36 (thirteen years ago) link

22. AEROSMITH - Rocks
21. KORN - Follow The Leader
...
9. GUNS N ROSES - Appetite For Destruction
8. SYSTEM OF A DOWN - Toxicity

― Play with human heads instead of playing with balls (kkvgz), Friday, 11 March 2011 09:50 (thirteen years ago) link

4. SLAYER - Reign In Blood
3. BLACK SABBATH - Paranoid
2. PANTERA - Vulgar Display Of Power
1. METALLICA - Master Of Puppets

it certainly is a number two.

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 11 March 2011 14:36 (thirteen years ago) link

2nd best metal album of all time my arse

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 11 March 2011 14:36 (thirteen years ago) link

even bill magill thinks its a joke its #2 and he is one of the few Pantera fans round here

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 11 March 2011 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link

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