Eurythmics: Classic or Dud?

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  • ...listened to them yet!!!!

Old Fart!!! (oldfart_sd), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 11:04 (twenty years ago) link

I've said this before on Alex's '1984' thread, but 'In The Garden'. Produced by Conny Plank. It's very good.

Also search their early b-sides from 'Garden' and 'Sweet Dreams'. Primitive, weird, great.

jl, Wednesday, 9 July 2003 15:30 (twenty years ago) link

I had a tiny Eurythmics t-shirt when I was four. Classic.

Ess, Wednesday, 9 July 2003 15:36 (twenty years ago) link

Q: I've never seen it in a used bin.

If I did I'd buy it.

Not the bin.

the pinefox, Thursday, 10 July 2003 14:18 (twenty years ago) link

They were the 'other' electro duo from the 80s...I always preferred Yazoo myself, but some Eurythmics stuff was excellent.

Here comes the rain again, Julia, Sexcrime, I Need a Man, Beethoven, Love is a stranger, Sweet Dreams, Who's that girl... I don't believe anyone who says they don't like at least one Eurythmics single.

Album wise it all went downhillafter 'Touch'.... Be Yourself Tonight was horrible US stadium posturing, far too rocky by half, We Too Are One was wishy washy, only Savage justifies their releasing records after 1984. And Savage was a masterpiece. 'Shame' should have been their biggest hit single (and Lennox looks strikingly beautiful in the video) and 'Beethoven' was a huge gamble for a band who had toed the commercial line for several years and done very well out of it, thank you.

The reunion album, bar the lovely 'I Saved the world today' was a washed up mess, twee and middle aged and horrible.

Let's not forget, too, that Eurythmics almost single handedly invented the fabulous pop video - their early 80s videos for 'Love is a Stranger', 'Sweet Dreams' etc. were all incredible.... and their later ones like Missionary Man, Who's that girl and Shame were all superb and worthy of a mention.

So inbetween classic and dud, really.... I think Stewart's discovery of stadium rock, and rock in general, tainted the band and stripped away what I loved about them - their icy aloofness (well, Lennox's icy aloofness) and made them rawk. Horrible.

And Lennox is a star, even now, one of the few genuine 'stars' we have left. And despite the ropey cover for the new album, she's still looking pretty great.

russ t, Thursday, 10 July 2003 16:26 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
REVIVE!

I recently bought "Sweet Dreams" for $1. I remember listening to it a lot as a kid and being alternately freaked out/turned on by Annie Lennox's weird, flirty S&M/drag schtick. I remember constructing elaborate mental narratives to accompany songs that had maybe three lines of lyrics. Listening to it now a lot of it is tame, but there's an undercurrent - something a little sinister - that still appeals. Plus "Love is a Stranger" and "Sweet Dreams" are just great, dark, minor-key synthpop. I also have "Be Yourself Tonight" which I don't enjoy quite as much - 'tis true the addition of stadium rock gestures and shitty horns did not improve upon their formula.

I say classic just for the early singles/videos, but after 1985 yeah it's pretty much shit.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 24 February 2005 22:14 (nineteen years ago) link

ive said all i can about eurythmics, their old stuff is totally awesome

i evenm like some of the stuff on "we two are one" ,but not as much as the proper synth pop stuff. its a cliche, but love is a stranger is just totally wicked manipulative obvious desperate stuff, sweet dreams is likewise amazing. i guess they got into coke or something (i dont knwo anythign about drugs) and started playing sax and stuff and being a soul rock band. btu savage is quite. ive never seen a copy of in the garden. might hit slsk now for it tho.

i thought annie lnnox was a man first time my brother played me "savage"

ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 24 February 2005 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah but "Be Yourself Tonight" has "Love You Like a Ball and Chain" = my fave tune

The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Thursday, 24 February 2005 22:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Lennox's ambisexuality and penchant for playing dress-up (look I'm a blonde bimbo! now I'm a Nazi! now I'm an English Lady!) def. appealed to my visual sensibility as a young'un. The sleeve to Sweet Dreams is pretty strange.

"Be Yourself Tonight" has a number of really good songs on it. "Ball and Chain" is also my wife's fave, oddly.

x-post

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 24 February 2005 22:49 (nineteen years ago) link

it's the stereo-panned rattling chains in the breakdown

The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Thursday, 24 February 2005 22:52 (nineteen years ago) link

"Be Yourself Tonight" is one of the great mainstream hits of the '80s. Little to no filler.

I heard "Revenge" the other day and, man, that's a dull one. It takes a lot to make Clem Burke sound like a drum machine. I genuinely prefer "Savage," which has "You Have Placed A Chill In My Heart" and "I Need You."

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 24 February 2005 23:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Let me present you Eurythmics: the good ones

In The Garden”
“Belinda “
“Never Gonna Cry Again”
“Revenge”

Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This)
“Love Is A Stranger”
“I Could Give You (A Mirror)”
“The Walk”
“Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This)”
“This Is The House”

Touch
“Here Comes The Rain Again”
“Right By Your Side”
“Who's That Girl?”
“Paint A Rumour”

Be Yourself Tonight
“Would I Lie To You”
“Conditioned Soul”
“It's Alright (Baby's Coming Back)”

Revenge
“Thorn In My Side”

JoB (JoB), Friday, 25 February 2005 00:50 (nineteen years ago) link

you left out Ball and Chain. Not allowed. otherwise pretty spot on.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 25 February 2005 00:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Nothing from Savage!

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 25 February 2005 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Ssssssex Criiiime (1984)

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Friday, 25 February 2005 01:08 (nineteen years ago) link

every song on Sweet Dreams is amazing.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 25 February 2005 01:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm partial to the Hayes/Porter cover on Sweet Dreams as well - mostly because I remember asking my mom what the phrase "put your loving in my box" meant and my mom very matter-of-factly answered "she means her vagina." I think I was 9 or 10.

good times!

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 25 February 2005 01:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Love Is A Stranger. You Have Placed A Chill In My Heart. Sweet Dreams. Sex Crime. It's all there. CLASSIC, I say. CLASSIC!! All hail to the red bra.
http://www.celebstation.org/musicians/annie_lennox/1-Annie_Lenox-012.jpg

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 25 February 2005 04:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, classic! Up to 1985. ITG is their most listenable album I believe. Not all consistent, but rewarding to many listens because it's so inventive- I like the krautrock drumming a lot. I think Sweet Dreams has their strongest songs- love is a stranger & title track. Touch is more consistent but doesn't have quite as strong songs. Sexcrime on 1984 is my favorite song of all though, damn I love how robotic it is.

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Friday, 25 February 2005 04:49 (nineteen years ago) link

I saw them when they did whatever tour it was when she was dressed all Marilyn-like (Monroe). This tarted up distressed off-white slip.

I was sitting in the front row, an industry thing. She came up, cooed a line, and, well, fell out of her top.

I A-Bed that with post New Romantic memories of feeling delightfully miserable while listening to the first three records and experioenced a unique, troubling and sassy frisson.

iang, Friday, 25 February 2005 06:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Dumb hearts get broken, just like china cups!

Sara Sherr, Friday, 25 February 2005 19:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Great pop singles band up to 1985*, Savage TOTAL UBERCLASSIC, turned to utter shit immediately after.

*actually I liked whole albums when I was prepubescent but haven't listened to any since. except for Savage, which I dug out of a box three years ago when I needed to listen to stuff on tape and was happy to discover that my childhood impression of it being a TOTAL UBERCLASSIC was entirely accurate.!

kit brash (kit brash), Saturday, 26 February 2005 09:42 (nineteen years ago) link

every single sounded different
i listen to greatest hits but not their albums.
couldn't get into the garden - it was the last i bought.
1984 was not a listenable album.
the rest were very pop friendly

stave dewart, Saturday, 26 February 2005 10:38 (nineteen years ago) link

nine months pass...
Revive!

Has anyone heard the reissues? Much as I dig on these guys I can't say I've been feeling a burning need for remasters, but I am curious about the "Satellite Of Love" and "Last Night I Dreamt..." covers.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 23:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I just reviewed the rather good Essential comp. Except for the inclusion of some crap new songs and the omission of "Sexcrime" and "Don't Ask Me Why," it's great, great, great.

What are those crap rockist responses up top?

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 00:26 (eighteen years ago) link

haha - Nick, Tom, Nathalie: rebuttal?

Tracer Hand was on point - you can never go wrong with "I Need You"

rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 00:34 (eighteen years ago) link

And "You Have Placed A Chill On My Heart"!

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 00:35 (eighteen years ago) link

The intolerance for Be Yourself Tonight intrigues me. Also, We Too Are One is always underrated, if only mildly. "My, My, Baby's Gonna Cry" is just a thumb below any of their best stuff.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 00:52 (eighteen years ago) link

That cover of "Satellite of Love" is Not Good. It might still be up at http://siart.blogspot.com.

brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 01:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Be Yourself Tonight is their best album. I suspect the love for In My Garden (dullsville) stems from the weakness on ILM for synths-plus-voice.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 01:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Ouch. No, I like ITG b/c of the reasons cited above - weirder than anything else the band has done by far. Sure it's an artsy 1st album which was vastly reconfigured later on, but that's OK. I'm grasping for parallels here and thinking of the 1st Wolfgang Press or Modern English records for comparison. I think the later more-produced records are probably better all around, but I certainly wouldn't say the 1st one is "dullsville".

sleeve (sleeve), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 06:05 (eighteen years ago) link

That cover of "Satellite of Love" is Not Good.

Thanks for the link. And, er, yeah. I forced myself to hang in until the chorus, and it did get better, but... ouch. Fun times in the studio, I guess.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 07:39 (eighteen years ago) link

The cover of "Fame" is better; siart also had that up, I think.

brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 07:48 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
'aqua' has a nice groove

lf (lfam), Monday, 22 May 2006 06:56 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
wow. i'm surprised there's so much hate. maybe the 5 years since this thread was started the 80s have been reevaluated a bit more?

i just picked up Touch just for "Aqua"

jäxøñ (jaxon), Thursday, 22 June 2006 05:26 (seventeen years ago) link

...which was used wonderfully for a Carlos (of whatever we want records) and Quiet Village dj mix on beats in space

jäxøñ (jaxon), Thursday, 22 June 2006 05:28 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...

OK, I've learned to love "Missionary Man" after 20 years.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 03:08 (fifteen years ago) link

hellooooo ... "this city never sleeps"

jaime, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 04:00 (fifteen years ago) link

"Aqua" and "This City Never Sleeps" have both completely blown me away, but right now I've been especially into "Take Me To Your Heart" from In The Garden.

Also, some amazing B-sides to "Love Is A Stranger": "Monkey Monkey" and "Let's Just Close Our Eyes"... http://www.discogs.com/release/383009

Craig D., Tuesday, 24 June 2008 05:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Listened to a few more covers since the last time. "Come Together" is dire; "Last Night I Dreamt..." points unfortunately toward Annie's solo career.

Nonetheless, still emphatically classic, including a few tracks off PEACE.

rogermexico., Tuesday, 24 June 2008 05:48 (fifteen years ago) link

“This Is The House” = killer bassline

moley, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 06:32 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm surprised by all the love for In The Garden; most of the album reviews I've read call it a misfire.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 12:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Only decent album they ever made.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 12:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Still haven't heard ITG, but Touch and Be Yourself Tonight sound marvelous.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 12:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Each album is, respectively, a sucker of Satan's cock and the cock itself.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 12:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I can believe that Satan would sport Dave Stewart's hair.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 12:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I was quite into them as a pre-teen, and Love is a Stranger was the only song on their greatest hits I didn't like. Now it's easily my favourite. Sweet Dreams and Here Comes the Rain Again are hard to deny as well.

chap, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 13:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I quite liked the singles off Peace, actually, myself.

Keaney Tong, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 14:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Savage and Be Yourself Tonight hold up as full albums, and all the rest (up 'til 1990) have high highlights.

Eazy, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 14:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Once in was in La Coupole in Paris and the waitress said to us: "Look, over there, an eel, an ox." "What?" "An eel, an ox, at the next table." "What, an eel, an ox?" "From Euromix." "Euromix? Some kind of French VH1?" Finally I got it that the dressed down no-makeup blonde lady at the table was Annie Lennox, although I had to stare a little while to make sure it was really her.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 14:33 (fifteen years ago) link

thinking about the eurythmics just makes me think of the smell of charity shops

online hardman, Sunday, 30 March 2014 16:02 (ten years ago) link

Remarkably, I now prefer its predecessor. Still, it's amazing that the American public took the album into the top ten despite the presence of the harsh effects-laden songs on the B.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 March 2014 17:26 (ten years ago) link

never heard savage before today, holy shit what a record

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 31 March 2014 00:25 (ten years ago) link

isn't it something? Revenge was their biggest worldwide hit and their worst album to date: they went for a mullet-and-guitar-wank arena sound. Suddenly at the peak of their power they returned to what sounds like demos.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 March 2014 00:26 (ten years ago) link

Savage sounds enormously produced and polished!

Charles, hatless (sic), Monday, 31 March 2014 00:47 (ten years ago) link

Not to my ears. Take "I Need You" or "I've Got a Lover" -- Eury is back to Lennox-Stewart and no sidemen.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 March 2014 00:53 (ten years ago) link

I Need You is a deliberate anomaly on an album that opens with Beethoven setting the tone

Charles, hatless (sic), Monday, 31 March 2014 01:21 (ten years ago) link

ever heard savage before today, holy shit what a record

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, March 30

sort of envious of this, like I get when people say "oh i think i'm going to start The Wire."

resulting post (rogermexico.), Monday, 31 March 2014 02:31 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

Savage really is immense.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 June 2016 23:00 (seven years ago) link

Title track kills me every time. I just realised the percussion is the same drone-and-thwack I love in Björk's "All is Full of Love" video mix.

MatthewK, Monday, 20 June 2016 23:39 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Heard a couple of tracks from their debut today, pretty good! I could go for a proper anthology but it appears all their comps are just the singles. Boo...

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 22:57 (seven years ago) link

Ha, I bought the debut recentlty, still plucking up the courage to actually play it!

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 07:27 (seven years ago) link

no courage necessary, the debut is great.

probably seen this already, but this is an early OGWT performance with holger czukay and clem burke:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7VqGt5dzQc

coygbiv (NickB), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 08:39 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

"here comes the rain again" has got to be one of history's most underrated songs

Treeship, Tuesday, 26 July 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link

History loves this song.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 July 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

for a band whose strengths seemed to lie in icy cold synthpop, there sure are a lot of shitty sounds on these records, especially when they try to incorporate more "exotic" or "world music" touches

legislative fanboy halfwit (Οὖτις), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 21:58 (five years ago) link

shittier or less shitty than the coral sitar on "don't come around here no more?"

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 22:51 (five years ago) link

"here comes the rain again" has got to be one of history's most underrated songs

― Treeship, Tuesday, July 26, 2016 6:39 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

History loves this song.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, July 26, 2016 7:04 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

angelus novus, what's on yr ipod

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 23:12 (five years ago) link

I admit I like the fake sitar on the Petty tune :)

legislative fanboy halfwit (Οὖτις), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 23:12 (five years ago) link

I do my best

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 23:28 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

To clarify: the theatrical rights belong to Warner, not me. The people making this musical have been working with Warner, and there are no copyright infringement issues here! I was just taken by surprise; I think they all thought someone else was in charge of letting me know?

— Audrey Niffenegger (@AANiffenegger) March 5, 2021

armoured van, Holden (sic), Saturday, 6 March 2021 00:54 (three years ago) link

dangit, meant to link yesterday's original tweet:

Should I know about this? https://t.co/BRrpxTofSj

— Audrey Niffenegger (@AANiffenegger) March 4, 2021

armoured van, Holden (sic), Saturday, 6 March 2021 00:57 (three years ago) link

maybe they already told her in the future

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 6 March 2021 15:01 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

Just saw that Stewart is touring the "Eurythmics Songbook" at the moment. Shame Lennox isn't on board for this, as she doesn't seem to be doing much these days.

lord of the rongs (anagram), Friday, 8 March 2024 09:07 (one month ago) link


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