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If you look closely in "Don't Look Back," after Dylan plays "Baby Blue," you can see Donovan say, awkwardly and to no one in particular, "I used to know a girl named Baby Blue."

shookout (shookout), Monday, 14 June 2004 08:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Okay, but seriously though. What's the deal with this Donovan/Dylan relationship? Someone said there was real animosity on Dylan's part way back when, and then another person said they became friends and had fun playing together. I want the full gossipy story, but the true one of course.

Bimble (bimble), Monday, 14 June 2004 08:33 (nineteen years ago) link

*xpost*
Umm, I just looked at imdb and it says Donovan's son is in I Shot Andy Warhol and Gas Food Lodging, not himself.

Laszlo Kovacs (Laszlo Kovacs), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 02:42 (nineteen years ago) link

The Danish royal family are fans

mentalist (mentalist), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 02:45 (nineteen years ago) link

oops! you're right. they look almost exactly the same, and donovan is only 20 years older than his son. wakka wakka wakka! (jeez aaron do your fucking research)

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 02:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I was thinking how well preserved he looked hahahahahahaha! In that case I dunno WHAT the fuck Donovan Sr. is up to.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 02:52 (nineteen years ago) link

In that case I dunno WHAT the fuck Donovan Sr. is up to.

Sheesh folks, is it THAT hard to use a search engine? http://www.donovan.ie

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 02:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Anyway, it looks like he's playing the occasional show and is mainly just wandering about being Donovan.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 03:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Sheesh folks, is it THAT hard to use a search engine?
oh yeah? well, I'll eat your children!

Seriously, I had no compelling reason to google donovan until just now....

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 03:13 (nineteen years ago) link

So Donovan got a hard time from Dylan in "Don't Look Back", what an achievement on Dylan's part - Donovan was just a 18-19 year old kid at the time, why did the Great Genius feel it necessary to slap him down? Other than the fact that he was acting like a prick to everyone at the time and not only not getting called on it but getting praised for it? Donovan is very underrated - ask yourself how Bolan, Syd Barrett and (even) the Incredible String Band might have turned out if he hadn't been there first? Of course, he's a pop singer, he's like folk's answer to Harry Nilsson, he's a lightweight but often a wonderful one and we all need a little light in our live sometimes. Donovan was a very magic fellow.

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 09:36 (nineteen years ago) link

his hair is too fuzzy.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 09:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Marc Bolan's hair was too fuzzy, Syd Barrett's hair was too fuzzy etc etc

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 09:45 (nineteen years ago) link

haha, jeez, I just found out I even had Donovan Jr. confused with someone else! He was Darius in Gas Food Lodging! No way I woulda confused that kid with his pop if I had my shit straight! haha, kindly disregard everything I've said on this thread, I'm out of my element.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 10:00 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...
"First there is a mountain, then there is no mountain, then there is" is actually and old Zen saying.

Our Rob or Ross, Monday, 20 September 2004 18:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Well then some Zen guy deserves kudos because I love that song.

And 'Universal Soldier' I'm diggin too.

dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 20 September 2004 18:28 (nineteen years ago) link

"There is a Mountain" is a fabulous song. I'm currently listening to the Hurdy Gurdy Man album. Nothing calms me quite like the sound of his voice.

A friend told me about a recent interview he did for NPR because he has a new album called Beat Cafe coming out. The interview is archived on www.npr.org

Bimble (bimble), Monday, 20 September 2004 21:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Barabajagal is a really good album. Features the Jeff Beck Group.
He used to be Shaun Ryder's father in law.

everything, Monday, 20 September 2004 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Shaun Ryder was married to one of Donovan's kids?!? how can this be...

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 20 September 2004 21:13 (nineteen years ago) link

WEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAR YOUR LOVE LIKE HEAVEN is teh bomb.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 20 September 2004 21:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Absolutely. And I bought the vinyl just for the sleeve:

http://thm-br1r2.search.vip.scd.yahoo.com/image/85735697

Bimble (bimble), Monday, 20 September 2004 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Revive.

"Kiss me once more / Fill me with song"

I love this guy so much.

Kenan (kenan), Saturday, 13 November 2004 02:42 (nineteen years ago) link

THAT I MAY THAT I MAY WEAAAAAAAR YOUR LOVE LIKE HEAVENNN

Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Saturday, 13 November 2004 02:46 (nineteen years ago) link

On the firefly platform on sunny Goodge Street
Violent hash-smoker shook a chocolate machine
Bobbed in an eating scene.
Smashing into neon streets in their stillness
Smearing their eyes on the crazy Kali goddess
Listenin' to sounds of Mingus mellow fantastic.
"My, my", they sigh,

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Saturday, 13 November 2004 02:48 (nineteen years ago) link

LOVE DONOVAN

reo, Saturday, 13 November 2004 06:33 (nineteen years ago) link

i saw him join master musicians of joujouka onstage. did his song ok good but then he wouldn't get off. like fer fucks sake it (was) a really great gig and the music was fucking great and this sad old hippy keeps playing his acoustic songs with the master musicians pattering away behind him and all i can think of is you fucking ego maniac get the fuck off the stage i don't want to hear this shit i want the master musicians uncut.

prick.

bulbs (bulbs), Saturday, 13 November 2004 07:49 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Anyone hear Beat Cafe yet? I am curious.

George, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:08 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...
saw him tonight

he was pretty good

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 20 May 2005 23:24 (eighteen years ago) link

he was in an episode of futurama.
the one about the lost city of atlanta.

Aerodynamic (Aerodynamic), Saturday, 21 May 2005 03:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I like me some Donovan. Somewhere I read that Wayne coynes favorite album was Donovan's greatest hits and it made perfect sense and seemed so obvious but I never would have thought of it.

jmeister (jmeister), Saturday, 21 May 2005 03:32 (eighteen years ago) link

"Happiness Runs" roolz.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 21 May 2005 12:12 (eighteen years ago) link

GOO GOO GOO GOO BARABAJAGAL

"Atlantis"/"Barabajagal" could be the best double-sided hit single evah. Paul Macca harmonizes on the A, Jeff Beck burns wire on the B.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Saturday, 21 May 2005 12:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Could be, except they weren't. "Atlantis" B-Side was "To Susan on the West Coast Waiting". "Barababajagal came out about six months later.

Curt (cgould), Saturday, 21 May 2005 22:54 (eighteen years ago) link

thought I remembered my best friend owning that single but I guess my mind was playing tricks on me...again.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 22 May 2005 10:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Slsk Get thy Bearings. Great hip-hopish faux jazz.

Greil Marcus should be forced to write a Donovan book. Season of the Witch is a better listen than Like a Rolling Stone.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Sunday, 22 May 2005 13:15 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
pulled out Slow Down World last night and it hit such the spot. it's from 76, so by then, he's lost a bit of the fey, hippy dippy vocal inflections and got to a nice singer/songwriter spot even though there's still a bit of mysticism (album's dedicated to the queen of mars or something). "My Love Is True (Love Song)" is a great eastern drony track.

The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Monday, 11 July 2005 22:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Beat Cafe is a hell of a lot better than I expected it would be.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Okay, this is going to sound retarded, but I've been hearing the song "Sunshine Superman" all my life and I never realized what it was until this morning. (A next-door neighboor had given me the album with that title in a pile of other used LPs two years ago, and I never got around to listening to it til now. I always knew Donovan did a song with that name; just never associated it with the song that goes "when I make my mind up you're going to be mine" and "Superman and Green Lantern ain't got nothin on me" etc. Not sure who else thought did it; guess I never wondered one way or the other. And never really checked out Donavan much at all, even though the person I'm married to is named after one of his songs. Anyway, the album -- which also has "Season of the Witch," which I've always loved -- is good. A lot better than the Wear Your Love Like Heaven LP, which the same neighbor gave me, but which I thought was boring since Donavan's voice didn't see pretty enough to support its tweeness, even though he's quite possibly inventing the genre.)

Husker Du covered "Sunshine Superman" once, right? Don't think I've ever actually heard that, either.

xhuxk, Saturday, 7 February 2009 16:28 (fifteen years ago) link

"Donovan's voice didn't seem pretty enough" I meant. (And "Not sure who else I thought did it." Etc.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 7 February 2009 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link

five months pass...

What would you say is the modern equivalent of Donovan? I'm trying to find a song with a similar sounf to Mad John's Escape or the same vibe found on the whole 'gift from a flower...' album but can't think of anything good enough.

Moka, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 05:39 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

rando request, but does anyone have an mp3 of the re-recorded "colours" from 1968-69? it's on the vinyl of his greatest hits, but was replaced with the original version when they put that LP on CD...

tylerw, Thursday, 14 July 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

Really love Mellow Yellow LP the most, cos a friend did a cover of "Writer in the Sun" that made me seek this one out. I think A Gift From a Flower to a Garden is probably my 2nd favorite just cos there are so many songs and it starts with "Wear Your Love Like Heaven" and just gets more hippy-dippy from there on out. If you're listening to Donovan, you may as well get as hippy-dippy as possible...

There's a Sunshine Superman - The Journey Of Donovan documentary that is the most exhausting thing ever, like 3 hours long, and Donovan either must absolutely LOVE talking about himself, or the editor just didn't feel like throwing anything out. It's a decent way to pass an evening, with lots of funny stories about him doing drugs in the desert and stuff and his friend "Gypsy Dave", but it really is long as hell.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 14 July 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

it's on the vinyl of his greatest hits, but was replaced with the original version when they put that LP on CD

this totally annoys me too. I have the Troubadour double-CD (which is GRATE) but yeah it has several songs that I knew from the Greatest Hits in inferior versions, including this one

i hate it when rats eat my bushels (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 14 July 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

that doc is okay but it's kinda sad how they couldn't afford/bother to get anybody to talk about Donovan besides... Donovan.

i hate it when rats eat my bushels (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 14 July 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

guess the 1968 version is on a recent reish of hurdy gurdy man, but can't find a download (legit or not) of it.

tylerw, Thursday, 14 July 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

Do you just mean the 4:10 trippy version from Like It Is, as opposed to the earlier folky original? Or is there a third, later version still?

clemenza, Thursday, 14 July 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

ummm, maybe?
from wiki: When Epic Records was compiling Donovan's Greatest Hits, they were either unable or unwilling to secure the rights to the original recordings of "Catch the Wind" and "Colours". Donovan rerecorded both songs with a full backing band, and the rerecordings were included on the greatest hits album.

tylerw, Thursday, 14 July 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

The trippy version's one of my favourite songs ever. I'll get it to you now and you can figure out if that's the one you mean.

clemenza, Thursday, 14 July 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

cool, thanks! basically looking for the non-dylanesque, psych version, yeah.

tylerw, Thursday, 14 July 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

guess the 1968 version is on a recent reish of hurdy gurdy man, but can't find a download (legit or not) of it.

Take it from me, you're not looking very hard!

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 15 July 2011 12:21 (twelve years ago) link

The '68 version is on the old/original (80s?) cd of Greatest hits.

Mucho! Macho! Honcho!: Turn Off The Dark (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:09 (twelve years ago) link

agree that they're very different animals.

Dylan is the highly superior animal tho lol

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

six months pass...

SO good.

"Open Road" fans out there? Has a fun ramshackle live feel to it, which is super cool after all the fussy (but brilliant) Mickie Most stuff.
Find that I go back to this one even more than the rest.

mr.raffles, Saturday, 20 October 2012 03:06 (eleven years ago) link

I don't remember that one - Cosmic Wheels is the cutoff point with him for me

Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 22 October 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

This is so perfect:

http://www.donovan.ie/en/2014/02/donovan-master-classes-composition-guitar-styles/

MASTER CLASS FEES SUPPORT STUDENT MEDITATION
Donovan invites students for private one-on-one tuition in Compostion and Gutiar style.
On a secluded Bahamain Island.
There are limited places for 7 persons over one week.
Only 6 string acoustic guitarist players and songwriters who compose on acoustic guitar can be considered.
No electric guitars can be considered, as the Master Class is an instruction by Donovan for composers and guitarists who compose on 6 string acoustic guitar.
No 12 string guitars are considered.
The dates and secret location for the Master Class will be given plus the fees when a student is accepted by Donovan. Total privacy will be ensured for the students and the location secret.
Only songwriters who have learned basic sets of guitar chords and have attempted songwriting can apply.
Students would need to send a simple video of their performance on acoustic guitar and solo vocal of a self-penned song of their own making.
An audio recording is not enough as Donovan needs to see you play your guitar also. Donovan will decide on the limited selection of students.
Send link to your clip to supp✧✧✧@dono✧✧✧.i✧
Send your videoclip link now!
The location of the Master classes will be at a small exclusive resort on a secluded Bahamian Island.
Accommodations and food included in the Fees.
The location will be given to students when Donovan accepts the student and the deposit is received. This is to protect privacy.
The Fee information for the 7 days is available only by email to supp✧✧✧@dono✧✧✧.i✧, and only after Donovan accepts the student.
Students may bring their wife, husband, partner or friend as the Private Beach Cottage is for two persons.
That means sharing a queen size bed not two separate beds in a cottage.
The week can be your holiday also.
The Tuition
The styles of guitar picking and chord structures that Donovan shared with The Beatles in India for their White Album will be taught as well as many more secret styles and compostion skills that have made Donovan one of the most unique guitarists and composers of this age.
“Donovan is all over The White Album”
George Harrison quote from The Beatles Anthology.
“I will also show you how to access the creative field.”
Donovan
AFTER EXPENCES, A PORTION OF THE MASTER CLASS FEES WILL GO TO TEACHING STUDENTS TO MEDITATE IN DONOVAN’S HOMELAND OF SCOTLAND.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 May 2014 05:39 (nine years ago) link

three years pass...

I saw a film only a month ago that used "Colours"--pretty sure it was Donovan's version from Greatest Hits, the electric version. It wasn't Rules of Attraction, it was something much more recent, within the past couple of years.

What's the movie?! I went through my recent posts on the "Last (x) movies" thread and can't figure out what it was.

clemenza, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 19:34 (six years ago) link

Listening to A Gift From A Flower to A Garden a fair bit at the moment - particularly the second half, which is goddamn lovely, especially Epistle to Derroll and The Mandolin Man.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 19:44 (six years ago) link

xp Tower, animated documentary from last year?

Or maybe the Amazon series Good Girls Revolt?

early rejecter, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link

Tower, yes--thanks a lot.

clemenza, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 20:13 (six years ago) link

A Gift is really great but Mellow Yellow is still my favorite. esp "Writer in the Sun" and "Young Girl Blues" (and the title track ofc).

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 04:41 (six years ago) link

My safe word is "Barabajagal"

Moodles, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 04:58 (six years ago) link

heh

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:28 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

I had no idea Donovan jumped on the disco bandwagon three years too late. Sadly most of it sounds like bad Bryan Ferry or his usual folky stuff, but this track is kind of a winner:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bieyrpNaB-4

Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Friday, 5 April 2019 16:24 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

i've been obsessed w this dude lately. so much of his stuff i had just never heard, but that's been rectified thanks to spotify. well, the 60s stuff anyway. it doesn't appear that any of his 70s records are on there at all, jumping from '70s Open Road (p dope) to '80's Neutronica (which is...something). anything of interest in those intervening years?

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 23 September 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link

Cosmic Wheels is p good

Οὖτις, Monday, 23 September 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link

I see I said that upthread 7 years ago lol

Οὖτις, Monday, 23 September 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link

cool. i'll see what i can find on youtube.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 23 September 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link

seven months pass...

My antediluvian baby

Together Again Or (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 1 May 2020 18:18 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

Beatniks are out to make it rich

Meet Me in the Z'Ha'Dum (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 04:54 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

The continent of Atlantis was an island

Soda Stereo Total (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 December 2022 03:06 (one year ago) link

Now go home and get your shinebox.

birdistheword, Monday, 12 December 2022 03:21 (one year ago) link

Now you’ve been away a long time. I got news for you: I don’t shine shoes no more.

Soda Stereo Total (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 December 2022 03:45 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

Donovan by Bobbie Gentry. Odd song to choose and it doesn't really work but interesting nonetheless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CKgof91goo

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 June 2023 12:55 (ten months ago) link

nine months pass...

Part 1 (posted part 2 on the Zodiac thread):

youtube.com/watch?v=eJW6KtvyvDE

I mangle Bret Easton Ellis's name once or twice, and there was something else I egregiously messed up.

clemenza, Friday, 22 March 2024 03:21 (one month ago) link

(Donovan's music in To Die For, L.I.E., The Rules of Attraction, and a few other films.)

clemenza, Friday, 22 March 2024 03:23 (one month ago) link


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