Best Herbie Hancock (As Leader) Album Poll of 1960s/70s/80s era.

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So Headhunters ftw again?

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 6 December 2007 13:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, and saying all that: I voted for Thrust I think. It may not be his best record overall -- but it's the best of the Headhunters records.

Also, Secrets is pretty underrated in that sense -- I have it on some weird 2-CD two-fer with Sextant and it has lots of the great String Ensemble spaciness of the Mwandishi/Headhunters years but also the first instance, I believe, of vocoder.

Also worth noting, "Nobu" from Dedication is one of his best all-analog ventures -- and completely solo.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 6 December 2007 15:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Thrust is great and I don't think Secrets is as bad as people make out.

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 6 December 2007 15:11 (sixteen years ago) link

It would almost be easier to do this by era

So what would everyone's favourite era be then? Mine is definitely early to mid 70s.

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 6 December 2007 16:56 (sixteen years ago) link

The same for me, I guess, from Mwandishi to Sunlight.

Tuomas, Saturday, 8 December 2007 09:55 (sixteen years ago) link

It's an awesome period.

Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 8 December 2007 10:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link

So many great albums here, get those votes in!

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 00:19 (sixteen years ago) link

So Tuomas, is Headhunters going to get hardly any votes as everyone wants to avoid the 'canon' album?

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 09:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Another predictable vote for <i>Sextant</i>.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 09:22 (sixteen years ago) link

So Tuomas, is Headhunters going to get hardly any votes as everyone wants to avoid the 'canon' album?

Well, it won the previous poll...

Has anyone read the book about Head Hunters (this is the correct spelling, I think, though confusingly enough the band is called Headhunters without the space)? I though it was okay, but maybe a bit too over-reaching and academic. I liked the book about A Love Supreme (which was in the same series) more.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 09:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Another predictable vote for <i>Sextant</i>

me too

jed_, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 09:59 (sixteen years ago) link

yesterday I listened to Speak Like A Child and if I hadn't already voted for Maiden Voyage...

m coleman, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 10:52 (sixteen years ago) link

I just hope there's a reasonable amount of votes.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 11:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Get voting!

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 19:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyone fans of the 70's VSOP acoustic stuff he did inbetween the electronic albums? I have never checked that stuff out. Worth it?

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 19:21 (sixteen years ago) link

I remember some essay or review calling it "arena jazz", which seems pretty accurate. I only heard one album but it sounded like 60s Miles but less crazy and heavier (for Tony Williams' part, anyway).

Jordan, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 19:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Worth checking out?

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 19:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I saw Herbie play with his acoustic quartet in Edinburgh in 2005 I think it was.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 19:29 (sixteen years ago) link

it's been so long, i can't really say. with that lineup, it can't be <i>bad</I>...can it?

Jordan, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 19:29 (sixteen years ago) link

True, I will try find it cheap somewhere.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Another predictable vote for <i>Sextant</i>

me too

And again. Is Sextant the new Head Hunters?

Myonga Vön Bontee, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 20:07 (sixteen years ago) link

If it wins, it deserves it. Sextant is among my top 5 records ever, it's just amazing.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link

It's kinda sad that it was practically the last Mwandishi recording (if you don't count those Eddie Henderson LPs which, like I mentioned upthread, are good but not quite as good as Sextant). Who knows what might've happened if that band would've sticked together?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 20:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Btw, Mwandishi fans might want to check the duo record Patrick Gleeson and Bennie Maupin released some years back, Driving While Black. It's quite different from the seventies stuff (there's no other players on it, so everything besides Maupin's reeds is electronic), but interesting nevetheless.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 20:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Sextant is a wonderful album and if it or Head Hunters wins it , it will deserve it.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link

90 mins left to vote

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 22:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link

So Head Hunters won the last one and only got 3 votes this time. Typical ILM lol. Glad other albums got so many votes though. Over 50 votes in total isn't bad either.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 00:05 (sixteen years ago) link

I wonder how a Miles Davis vs Herbie Hancock 1970-1975 poll would do.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 00:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Wow, I'm ashamed I had never checked out Sextant until now. This shit is sick.

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 01:27 (sixteen years ago) link

It's awesome stuff.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 09:54 (sixteen years ago) link

I wonder how a Miles Davis vs Herbie Hancock 1970-1975 poll would do.

Shall I do that?

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 13:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I like picturing Herbie messing around in a huge room full of synthesizers and making his amused Herbie faces.

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 13:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Have you seen the back cover of Sunlight?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 13:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Btw, is it true that Miles was angry for Herbie for him managing to do the fusion thing Miles had already started, only with more commercial success than Miles ever had?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 13:54 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm sure miles was slightly annoyed about that. what's really interesting is that Miles actually *opened* for Herbie on several occasions in the mid 70s (post Head Hunters I presume) -- an arrangement that must've been awkward for all parties involved.

tylerw, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 17:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Wayne Shorter probably had equal if not bigger commercial success with Weather Report, I'd imagine.

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 17:53 (sixteen years ago) link

I got a new (old) turntable and was able to listen to Thrust last night, it is awesome. The Palm Grease break must have been sampled in a ton of rap tunes, right?

Jordan, Thursday, 13 December 2007 15:49 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought, this being ILM, "Mwandishi" might have won this

Tom D., Thursday, 13 December 2007 15:52 (sixteen years ago) link

I love Actual Proof. Mike Clark is tops on that one.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 13 December 2007 15:53 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought that The Blood Donor might have won.

Dingbod Kesterson, Thursday, 13 December 2007 15:59 (sixteen years ago) link

So Marcello is back,eh?

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 14 December 2007 00:20 (sixteen years ago) link

John Coltrane (as Leader) Albums Poll

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 14 December 2007 02:13 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought, this being ILM, "Mwandishi" might have won this

Sextant has always been the ILM pick though I think.

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 14 December 2007 02:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Wayne Shorter probably had equal if not bigger commercial success with Weather Report, I'd imagine.

Weather Report never had anything close to the commercial success of "Rockit", or even "You Bet Your Love".

As far as album sales went, both were surpassed by Mezzoforte and Spyro Gyra. For a short while at least.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 14 December 2007 09:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I think Head Hunters was the best selling jazz album ever for quite some while, until Kind of Blue finally passed it. I'm not sure if this happened during Miles's lifetime though.

Tuomas, Friday, 14 December 2007 09:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I never get fed up with either of those albums actually. Listened to head Hunters and the Mwandishi era cds last night.

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 14 December 2007 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Now it's time for Man-Child.

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 14 December 2007 17:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Tuomas , I'm sure I read somewhere that Head Hunters was still the biggest seller.

Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 15 December 2007 01:13 (sixteen years ago) link

“tell me a bedtime story” from fat Albert rotunda is all-time

brimstead, Saturday, 24 October 2020 01:43 (three years ago) link

Thrust is really really great too. All that Mike Clark and Paul Jackson shit is head exploding.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 24 October 2020 01:54 (three years ago) link

Bedtime Story on Fat Albert Rotunda is another example of one good ballad on an otherwise indifferent Hancock album.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 24 October 2020 01:57 (three years ago) link

thrust is incredibly poppin. actual fucking proof

brimstead, Saturday, 24 October 2020 02:11 (three years ago) link

There’s really nothing else like that track

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 24 October 2020 02:25 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

mr. hands is the best one

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 20 January 2023 21:40 (one year ago) link

The line up on that record is insane.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 20 January 2023 21:43 (one year ago) link

features ron carter and jaco lol

kiss me while the world decays (Austin), Friday, 20 January 2023 22:24 (one year ago) link

Sheila E!

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 20 January 2023 22:33 (one year ago) link

for me, "sound system" is the one. i went to it looking for breakdance sounds in 1984 and it split my tiny brain wide open. "metal beat" still sounds absolutely mentalist

massaman gai (front tea for two), Saturday, 21 January 2023 12:15 (one year ago) link

Mr. Hands is phenomenal

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Saturday, 21 January 2023 15:57 (one year ago) link

Sextant was my introduction and remains my favorite, but I dig all the '70s albums that placed well in the poll.

I can't tell if he's trolling or not (ilxor), Thursday, 26 January 2023 05:57 (one year ago) link

Herbie is making his now (apparently) annual trip to the Kennedy Center this June. Of course I will be there.

Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 26 January 2023 15:22 (one year ago) link

Tempted to do a "best of the rest" poll for the ones that got zero votes. Of the ones I know, I'd probably pick either Inventions and Dimensions, Fat Albert Rotunda, or Flood.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 26 January 2023 15:27 (one year ago) link

I got heavily into Eddie Henderson's mid-70s solo albums last year, which are a fine companion to the Mwandishi stuff - same band even!

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Thursday, 26 January 2023 15:28 (one year ago) link

I wrote a piece about VSOP last year.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 26 January 2023 15:39 (one year ago) link

Flood is an insane set that goes OFF!!!!! So good

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 26 January 2023 15:55 (one year ago) link

Inventions and Dimensions

severely underrated album - really interesting lineup

Unfairport Convention (PBKR), Thursday, 26 January 2023 15:57 (one year ago) link

Tempted to do a "best of the rest" poll for the ones that got zero votes. Of the ones I know, I'd probably pick either Inventions and Dimensions, Fat Albert Rotunda, or Flood.

I've been tempted to do a poll of his best "sell out" tracks (intended in a positive way; I adore his disco/dance/funk/break stuff)

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:17 (one year ago) link

the disco records are all soooo dope. i think i love lite me up the most

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:19 (one year ago) link

Those Eddie Henderson records are dope. I'll stan for *Realization* all day long. More Dr Patrick all the time.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Thursday, 26 January 2023 17:11 (one year ago) link

“mr. hands” is cool. aside from the amazing cover art works well with london-style “jazz dance” records (ie the uptempo latin inflected stuff with trad instruments)

i lean heavily on “spiraling prism” and “calypso” when i play it out

the late great, Thursday, 26 January 2023 17:44 (one year ago) link

sorry to jump around here+i'm positive someone has brought it up before now BUT-

if you want even more super hot 70s headhunters/hancock/miles adjacent action, bennie maupin's slow traffic to the right from 1977 is about as good as they get. funky, spacey, mellow, but mad.

probably old news, putting here for posterity mostly. highly recommended either way.

"i'm grateful." (Austin), Friday, 27 January 2023 18:05 (one year ago) link

I've been listening to that Maupin record recently, since his debut is maybe my favourite ECM record. I like it better than the funk-era Hancock I've heard, and it walks an interesting line between being tasteful and gently exploratory, and also trying to sell some records in the context of late 70s fusion.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 28 January 2023 15:22 (one year ago) link


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