Underworld - Classic or Dud?

Those two tracks are great. I think I need to live with them a little more before they really sink in, but so far they're much better than, say, the ambient tracks on the "Pearl's Girl" single. (None of them can touch "Tongue", though.)

now, on to my ancedote, which is about how the promo vinyl we got for 'King of Snake' was a 12" and os I put it on at 33 and it was SUPER FUNKY like WOW until Karl's vox came in and it sounded like he was a dying robot from planet Opium. So I put it on 45 and it turned into house music, which while quite good was not nearly as enjoyable as the 33 version.

echo...

I also went to one of the concerts (Broadcast on Radio 1!!!!!) at around the time of "Dubnobass...", (The same night as they found the body of Kurt Cobain!!!!) and it was grebt/GRATE/etc!!!!! Unlike the recent "live" album, it was one big long DJ mix style jam, mixing in various bits of their songs. The track on the live album which mixes "Cowgirl" and "Rez" is nearest equivalent- imagine a whole concert like that with most of the tracks from "Dubnobass..." and an early version "Born Slippy"!!!! (I've actually got a tape of it somewhere, taped of the radio...)

Anyways, Underworld is still classic because did I mention that "Tin There" is basically my favorite techno barnburner ever?

The kickass house/blues romp "Big Mouth" (with some guy named Philadelphia Slim whom I've never heard of on harmonica!!) is another awesome underrated early Underworld song. Underworld kicks ass.

(I'm sorry I won't pimp out that article ever again, this is the millionth time, prob haven't written anything decent for free since, it was 18 months ago)

But I must ask: If Underworld's a dud, who's classic?

...Ball ist rund. Spiel dauert 90 Minuten. Soviel ist schon mal klar. Alles andere ist Theorie...

I love how each record they make gets more and more minimal, but it doesn't diminish the impact at all.

With the benefit of hindsight, Darren Emerson leaving seems to have been beneficial.

That said, they are one of my faves.

I think it would ride pretty high in my best of the 90s, FWIW. For all I know I might have bypassed electronic music almost entirely if not for that album and 'In Sides'

"Juanite/Kiteless/Confusion The Waitress" would pass muster if it wasn't 8,000 years long.

Mencap, me too! I owe it al to STITI. It's the record that got me into electronic music, house music, DANCE music even.

gem, is that comp really worth buying? Couldn't I just burn it myself? What's the appeal?

lol if THIS is the only UW song you know

it is! but definitely a track which might give you the totally wrong impression of what kind of band this is

though after Drift what kind of band are they exactly?

i also love denver luna.

well this is the best of the lot so far maybe one of the best tracks they've done ever really

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clUQ7cy_35Y

idk about 'one of the best tracks they've ever done' but it's pretty solid

like a slinkier "Border Country"

Man the drop that happens at 6:44 is teased for so long and when it finally happens it's actually kinda subtle. Good tho. Want remixes.

tour https://underworldlive.com/events

ha, i was gonna bump this thread for a different reason

Underworld for me have always fallen down due to Karl Hyde's lyrics - back-of-a-fag-packet undergraduate cut-up nonsense which at best just distracts and at worst actively spoils the music, turning it from wide-ranging and danceable into a nasty urban noir mess. And his wannabeatnik delivery nobs me off, too.
― Tom, Wednesday, October 18, 2000 8:00 PM (twenty-three years ago) bookmarkflaglink

the thing is, his timing was absolutely perfect. the early internet is an unseen character in those Underworld songs, to me.

i've seen a lot of stuff about how 'early mtv put a hip new wave club in every teenager's living room', and sure i roll my eyes but AOL was an awful lot like having a dive coffeehouse in my living room.

maybe it's me- the crowd i fell in with with were the type who published poetry e-zines and fantasized about nights drinking absinthe out of dixie cups with purple-haired drop outs, idk. but i think, for various reasons, people who spent a lot of time online then were more likely to be outsiders who rejected the mainstream culture, or were rejected. so underworld's cyberbeatnik identity connected them to the chatrooms as much as the dance clubs.

a nocturnal parallel world seemed to spring up.... we still spent time hatching plans on the internet that would play out in the realm of physical geography. like, the internet was a map to me, not a place. it felt like our whole generation was a community, and we would be able to float around crashing on people's couches who we met on AOL. i get that none of that was new or unique to the moment ("wannabeatnik"- yeah def) and part of it is just the optimism people have when they're young and it's still possible to one day become "successful".

but the possibility of a bohemian slacker utopia has since closed, i think. what's changed is how the people who seemed incapable of integrating themselves into the straight world and holding down a normal job are more likely now to eke out a living piecemeal through the "gig economy" of driving ubers and walking dogs etc. it seems less plausible now to get by without those connections to the mainstream overworld.

something something

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LSxDPgV9sM

won't play for me

this better be the first of the banging denver luna remixes I've been waiting for

I've always liked his lyrics. maybe it's because I got into this band at the age of 13. I never thought they were that weird because I didn't know that much music. ditto for like, the guy from Cake, where it's really only now I realize how odd they were. I get why people don't like his lyrics but they do capture something pretty unique I think, particularly that night out feeling meeting people you'll never see again, always thinking what if...

that night out feeling meeting people you'll never see again

exactly

not having roots

are you listenin?
can you hear?

UNDERWORLD X KETTAMA 
fifteenth december pic.twitter.com/U6Ngxvkhq8

— Underworld (@underworldlive) December 10, 2023

This was better than I thought it would be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzqgGlyehLE

Underworld x Kettama

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwSNXtzWER4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J91SR8wfAvU

another one with Kettama, doesn't really sound like UW but it's pretty sweet

I had a load of marking to do tonight and put on Everything, Everything to make it more bearable, and the version of Moaner on the DVD is fucking incredible isn't it I am only used to the CD, why the fuck was it not on the CD?

You've all heard this a thousand times I'm sure, but I hadn't until just now, because some brilliant person put the whole DVD on youtube a year ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h93w-28dVY

the whole Pinkpop 1999 show where that version of Moaner was filmed is on YT if you want more of a concert experience - (oh, look for Palladium Koln 1999 there as well for another treat)

it wasnt on the CD because it's already 80 minutes long and they had to cut something

god I hope we get a vinyl reissue of it one day, I still don't think anything's captured the pure euphoria of live electronic music as well as this album does

A remastered / expanded double CD would be just fine.