― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 11 February 2005 10:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Friday, 11 February 2005 10:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― eman (eman), Friday, 11 February 2005 11:30 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 11 February 2005 13:48 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
Oh yeah? I always figured their name was a ref. to the Melvins track.
Feedbacker is indeed awesome. Have you heard Flood? Similar strcture but with less harshness.
― original bgm, Friday, 11 February 2005 14:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
Haven't heard Flood (yet).
― stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Friday, 11 February 2005 14:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― eman (eman), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― Snappy (sexyDancer), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― donut e-g (donut), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― donut e-g (donut), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:19 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― donut e-g (donut), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:47 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― Another Allnighter (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
Go have a look at the SL and stonerrock.com forums.
― Ranklin, Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:58 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:59 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
http://forums.southernlord.com/viewtopic.php?t=8168&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
― Ranklin, Thursday, 30 June 2005 09:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― Ranklin, Thursday, 30 June 2005 09:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― Another Allnighter (sexyDancer), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:48 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
Wow.
― donut e- (donut), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:14 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
(unless the remixers *were* shuffled around randomly and this is just a big low-key subtle prank.)
― donut e- (donut), Saturday, 2 July 2005 05:28 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― ng, Thursday, 4 August 2005 10:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 4 August 2005 10:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
sometimes.
― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 4 August 2005 16:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― hmmm (hmmm), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:10 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― donut ferry (donut), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:15 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
Anyway, I was at that Crocodile Cafe show in Seattle from whence the first track came from. They played in between Comets In Fire and Kinski. I'm very surprised at how well it sounds! I'm probably just excited because this is probably the first live show that's every been officially released which I actually attended... (fucking finally.)
I'm hoping the KK Null track is great..(don't see why i won't be)
― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Saturday, 17 September 2005 05:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― donut hallivallerieburtonelli omg lol (donut), Thursday, 29 September 2005 07:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― donut hallivallerieburtonelli omg lol (donut), Thursday, 29 September 2005 07:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
Yeah, I doubted it too for while. However, I subsequently found out that it is definitely them. There's a very interesting interview by dr3w d4niel where they discuss it here
― hmmm (hmmm), Thursday, 29 September 2005 09:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
I think it's a great album. I ordered the vinyl today.
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:06 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Sunday, 30 October 2005 21:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 31 October 2005 03:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― The Good Doctor, Monday, 31 October 2005 03:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Monday, 31 October 2005 04:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 31 October 2005 13:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 31 October 2005 22:10 (thirteen years ago) Permalink
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 29 June 2006 04:56 (twelve years ago) Permalink
― San Diva Gyna (and a Masala DOsaNUT on the side) (donut), Thursday, 29 June 2006 06:04 (twelve years ago) Permalink
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 29 June 2006 07:12 (twelve years ago) Permalink
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 29 June 2006 10:21 (twelve years ago) Permalink
"Extra-Capsular Extraction" is the first Earth LP. Ostensibly and EP, but there's no reason to propagate bullshit. It's a fucking album. Some will know it as "the one with Kurdt Cobain on it." Others won't. It fuggin' RULES, bro. Up there with "Earth 2" as the best shit they ever put out. Like having drug-sex with really hot snails. At 3.333 RPM.
"Earth 2" comes next. And it's even better (if only 'cuz it's longer). Totally fucking gorgeous, smeary, ecstatic drug drone. Absolutely natural and essential. Like if you gave a pineal gland a guitar, this is the record that gland would make. If, you know, it had hands or something... Yeah, sure, you could accurately describe it as the grunge version of some miserable new-age "cosmic tones" bullshit, but it transcends any labels you stick on it. The sound of the universe breathing. My favorite record of '93, and a top-ten contender ever since.
Ummm, and then you get "Phase 3: Thrones and Dominions". A HUGE step down in quality. The layered, primordial, multitracked sonic tarpit gets traded in for comparatively clean, straightforward guitar tones. Simple harmonies. "Songs". Nothing is ever really given room to build and resonate, and you just don't get the same feeling of "TOTAL PHYSICAL/PSYCHIC CONNECTION TO THE FUCKING UNIVERSAL SOUND, DUDE." Some good pieces, and not a terrible record by any means, but a disappointment nonetheless.
The "significant" portion of Earth's career winds up with "Pentastar: In the Style of Demons". Now, at the time of this album's release, it felt like the death-knell for Earth (which, in fact, it turned out to be). They simply weren't the band they hand been, and didn't seem to know what they wanted to do next. The comparatively clean tones of the previous album return, with an ever greater emphasis on "songwriting" and "rocking out." Some GREAT stuff here, and it's undeniably a better record than "Phase 3," but it's also awkward and half-formed. Do not start here.
THEE APOCRYPHA:
45 of early Cobain-era stuff: okay, and a fine addition to the sub-canon. Not really essential, tho.
"Sunn Amps and Smashed Guitars": another slice of prime-period (early 90s) material that doesn't meet the standards set by the first couple albums. Recommended to fans.
That German art museum live 12": skip it.
"Living in the Gleam of an Unsheathed Sword": great title -- boring record.
K.K. Null split: worth it only for the K.K. Null stuff.
Sunn0))) split: haven't heard it.
"Hex: or Printing in the Infernal Method": Surprisingly decent. Not comparable to the Earth of old, but fully-formed and interesting. Better, certainly, than "Phase 3". Not as rocking as "Pentatstar", but of comparable quality.
Note in closing: Sunn0))) never hit the heights set by Earth. In the early days, their sound very much resembled Earth's, and they even (jokingly?) pegged themselves as an "Earth tribute band". But for all the sturm und drone, their early records remain curiously detached and cerebral. Heavy as hell, but landlocked and tedious in a way that Earth's best material never was.
Over the last few albums (the "White" records and "Black One"), Sunn0))) have finally come into their own. They no longer sound in the least like Earth, and they're all the better for it. While it's a very different kettle of fish, "Black One" is a FANTASTIC record. Up there with "Extra-Capsular" and "Earth 2".
― fuckfuckingfuckedfucker (fuckfuckingfuckedfucker), Thursday, 29 June 2006 12:25 (twelve years ago) Permalink
Why am I typing? Shit, why do I fucking EXIST?.
*sob*
― fuckfuckingfuckedfucker (fuckfuckingfuckedfucker), Thursday, 29 June 2006 12:31 (twelve years ago) Permalink
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 29 June 2006 13:21 (twelve years ago) Permalink
― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Thursday, 29 June 2006 13:37 (twelve years ago) Permalink
(I just listened to it, and liked it.)
― 100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Thursday, 29 June 2006 13:39 (twelve years ago) Permalink
― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Thursday, 29 June 2006 13:40 (twelve years ago) Permalink
― 100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Thursday, 29 June 2006 13:42 (twelve years ago) Permalink
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 29 June 2006 15:58 (twelve years ago) Permalink
If (like me) you think "Pentastar" is substantially weaker than the first couple albums, then it becomes a dicier proposition. "Phase 3" is definitely the worst of the four canonical Earth albums, though it does contain a few stellar tracks.
For what it's worth, I'm glad I own a copy...
― fuckfuckingfuckedfucker (fuckfuckingfuckedfucker), Friday, 30 June 2006 17:02 (twelve years ago) Permalink
i think it's fantastic & then somg. listen for the cello. play loud. immerse yrself
― thank you ilxor for starting this much needed thread (ilxor), Friday, 11 March 2011 05:06 (seven years ago) Permalink
& then some* ugghhh
― thank you ilxor for starting this much needed thread (ilxor), Friday, 11 March 2011 05:07 (seven years ago) Permalink
So, what's the verdict on II?
― LaMonte, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:01 (six years ago) Permalink
I really like it, but it is a little less immediate than the first part even.
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 12 March 2012 01:04 (six years ago) Permalink
I agree that it's less immediate than the first part (which totally blew me away to be fair).
Saw Earth last week (for the first time) and hearing stuff from II live has improved my opinion of it a lot.
― AnotherDeadHero, Monday, 12 March 2012 10:09 (six years ago) Permalink
I generally listen to this as background music, so it works well as that
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 11:48 (six years ago) Permalink
I like the second part more than the first.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 12:35 (six years ago) Permalink
i love it. all the cello is a spooky touch
― Kenneth Toilethole (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 13:00 (six years ago) Permalink
love Pt 2, and a bit surprised there's not more chatter on this one. full thoughts here. there was a Burning Ambulance interview too that i liked a lot, thanks Phil!
― ilxor, Sunday, 8 April 2012 19:19 (six years ago) Permalink
It's a lovely album.
I saw them live last Saturday and was (slightly) disappointed. Much too quiet - barely to be heard above the chatter of my neighbours. Somehow the lack of volume drained their energy.
― Duke, Sunday, 8 April 2012 19:42 (six years ago) Permalink
They performed a mix of new album tracks and older songs. Carlson was visibly healthier than I've seen him, very chatty etc.
― Duke, Sunday, 8 April 2012 19:44 (six years ago) Permalink
i like II ok as background music but i don't feel it ever *goes* anywhere or develops in an interesting way. also agree that it was a bit too quiet.
i gave it a good chance too, listened while i walked around MOMA. just seemed kinda blah and i have a pretty good appetite for droney/boring/aimless/sloppy music. maybe i just wanted it to be louder.
― two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Sunday, 8 April 2012 19:48 (six years ago) Permalink
I think it's harder to appreciate in 2012 - but if you frame it in the context of when it was released, and into what kind of world, it's a pretty substantial work.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Sunday, 8 April 2012 22:19 (six years ago) Permalink
II still sounds great to me. that and extra-capsular extraction are all the earth i ever really need. agree that neither ever really "goes anywhere". they're entirely static, but in a good way. have always seen them as resembling meditation or even massage, prolonged baths in gorgeous, expansive, calorie-dense physical tone. i find it very easy to disengage from active listening and just sort of float around inside the sound, attuned but not attentive.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Sunday, 8 April 2012 23:23 (six years ago) Permalink
I'm hoping Earth will be the subjects of the cover story for the next Burning Ambulance print edition; John Fell Ryan from Excepter interviewed Dylan and Adrienne a month or so ago for that purpose. I figured he'd have the basis for an interesting conversation about long-form improv, being in a group with your SO (his wife is also in Excepter), stuff like that. Hoping to get the piece soon.
― 誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 8 April 2012 23:39 (six years ago) Permalink
listening to Hex. it demands to be listened to. not many albums have that simple purity of requirement. it is not entirely pleasurable but it is necessary, like childbirth
― wince (imago), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 23:52 (five years ago) Permalink
How do we feel about drcarlsonalbion? I like everything I've heard so far, but not more than Earth. Anybody check out the soundtrack to the German western (???), Gold? Looks very interesting...
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 00:13 (four years ago) Permalink
So this drcarlsonalbion crowdfunded film + soundtrack...soundtrack is good and in the vein of the other solo drcarlsonalbion stuff: slow, buzzy guitar riffs played with remarkable restraint and a beautiful tone. The film is...kinda silly and not great? Anyone else see it?
― Wimmels, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 02:38 (two years ago) Permalink
it demands to be watched. it is not entirely pleasurable but it is necessary, like childbirth
― oculus lump (contenderizer), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 04:07 (two years ago) Permalink
came here to more or less repeat what I said three years ago. every time I listen to Hex it slows time. great album to pull out every odd summer or so
― imago, Monday, 4 July 2016 17:10 (two years ago) Permalink
Wrong thread? Hex? Are you talking about bark psychosis? That album does slow down time, indeed. It sucks the movement out of time. I am not sure but there are evenings where codename is the best album of all time. Even better than hex. But then in hindsight it does not hold up. It's such an album of the moment.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 9 July 2016 21:09 (two years ago) Permalink
I presume he means the Earth record named 'Hex'? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hex;_Or_Printing_in_the_Infernal_Method
(That Bark Psychosis album is great too, though.)
― Birds in Hell, Sunday, 10 July 2016 00:24 (two years ago) Permalink
lol I've not even heard that Bark Psychosis album in full. Codename Dustsucker is great though
― imago, Sunday, 10 July 2016 12:49 (two years ago) Permalink
New Dylan Carlson solo album next month
https://youtu.be/QxlaxXy7PbI
― Dinsdale, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 12:50 (nine months ago) Permalink