Skinny Puppy: Classic or Dud?

For those who had trouble with a particular cd, clear your mind of any false expectations, go back to it and take another serious listen. Usually by 11th listen: you will find in what was once considered "unlistenable", a certain gratification (unlike any) that will hit you unexpectedly and bring with it unbelievable staying power.

Here, was truly an addictive brand of sonic seduction (in my book)... one that ferments quite nicely!

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By the way, VI VI sect VI had the BEST LONGBOX EVAH.

A year later he was drunk and diving in a river in Virginia and he died cracking his head on the river bottom - he was by himself, so when he hit the bottom, he was knocked out and he drowned.

So now when I hear Skinny Puppy it's nothing but bad associations. Kinda neat audio-collage technique they developed tho, I guess.

...and don't forget "deadlines" (that torrid guitar)!

Although, I too thought Last Rights was unlistenable for a year after I bought it until I final saw the light (and it was dark).

Ah, but don't forget, we have more "cheese" to look forward to: Live Braps & outakes (84 to '92)to be out soon...

But I always thought "love in vein" on Back & Forth Vol.4 was somehow far more gutwrenching than the "last rights" version. I dunno, something about that one has the darkest warp to me.

vivisect vi, bites, and rabies are my favorites i think.

i swear... mark my words... in my next few years, if we haven't started seeing it already as electro clash folds over itself... etc etc... skinny puppy and the like will become references for new underground bands... (if they already secretly aren't...)

there's too much to mine and shove off of...
m.

(This is also an interesting thread in that I didn't expect to see contributions from Ally and Gareth when I reread it!)

But hey, if anyone was upset about missing them live, they will get a chance very soon. They are touring extensively this year, first with a warm-up mini-tour in the U.S. in June (dates are still being announced), then Europe in July (dates also still being announced) and then a much larger tour of North America in late summer and the fall (no dates announced yet.) Whether you like the new album or not (release date: May 24th/25th), it would still be worth going to see them live. At least I think so. But I'm biased. ;)

At least at a Puppy show I know I can stand up front and run the risk of getting non-descript bits of goop (and gods know what else) flung in my direction. Hey, this is appealing to some folks!

While I think there's a good chance that a Boston date will be added soon, If they don't show up for the warm-up tour, they most definitely will hit it on the return trip. Rumor is that they are doing 20 dates on this side of the Atlantic before heading to Europe. They've only announced six shows in the States so far:

Portland- Roseland Theater June 11th
Seattle- Showbox June 12th
Chicago- Vic Theater June 15th and 16th (16th is sold out)
Philadelphia- Electric Factory June 23rd
Atlanta- Masquerade June 25th

http://cc.com/event_detail.html?eventID=201842

Boston- Avalon June 19th

Tickets go on sale May 7th at 10am.

(Which I think you should do, of course.)

DC- 930 Club June 22nd

Oh, and I'll list the dates announced so far in Europe too:

Paris- La Locomotive July 11th
Amsterdam- Paradiso July 13th
Sweden- Arvika Festival July 15th
Germany- Zillo Festival July 17th
Belgium- Dour Festival July 18th
London- The Forum July 19th

Well at least I have some idea of what week they'll be in NYC, if not the actual day.

Fri June 11, 2004 Portland, OR Roseland Theater
Sat June 12, 2004 Seattle, WA Showbox
Tue June 15, 2004 Chicago, IL Vic Theater
Wed June 16, 2004 Chicago, IL Vic Theater
Thu June 17, 2004 Detroit, MI TBA
Sat June 19, 2004 Boston, MA Avalon Ballroom
Sun June 20, 2004 New York, NY Irving Plaza (YES!!!)
Mon June 21, 2004 New York, NY Irving Plaza (double YES!!!)
Tue June 22, 2004 Washington, DC 9:30 Club
Wed June 23, 2004 Philadelphia, PA Electric Factory
Fri June 25, 2004 Atlanta, GA Masquerade
Sat June 26, 2004 New Orleans, LA House of Blues
Sun June 27, 2004 Houston, TX Club V
Tue June 29, 2004 Denver, CO Ogden Theatre
Thu July 1, 2004 San Francisco, CA Grand Ballroom
Fri July 2, 2004 Los Angeles, CA Henry Fonda Theatre
Sun July 4, 2004 Anaheim, CA The Grove of Anaheim

I'll actually be in town. Hmm....

what a headtrip

My issue with "Hexonxonx" is my problem with every song on Rabies that wasn't a single; after about 90 seconds, I start going "okay yes, I get the point; now do something else"

but it has that vortex of samples toward the end

though i think i might be a weirdo who loves rabies

Yeah but before it gets to that point I've skipped ahead to "Worlock"

I love Rabies

I’ve really enjoyed this revive and few things are more gratifying than watching someone with good taste experience something you love. Which is why I’ve watched way too many of those Lost in Vegas Youtube videos I guess.

My entry point was TDP and it will always be my favorite, but also rate Bites/Remission (yeah, I had the double CD so I’ll always mentally combine them), VIVIsect, and Last Rights, as my favorites. I also used to watch the Ain’t It Dead Yet? VHS probably more than was healthy. I never got to see them live. M:TPI and CF&M great, too. Also loved Back & Forth Vol. 2, the Spasmolytic EP, and I think the Inquisition single which had an amazing instrumental version of Mirror Saw that is one of my favorite standalone SP tracks.

too dark park is the gnarliest and coolest album ever made

last rights is even gnarlier and weirdly kind of loses me at that absolute terminus of gnarly. gonna keep trying though

but like rash reflection -> nature’s revenge -> shore lined poison is the greatest shit i’ve ever heard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ldM6DQ24bA

Good taste!
Ooh, he got good taste!

.@cEvinKey of @skinnypuppy_ changed his album title from "Xwayxway" to "Resonance."

The album is inspired by an Indigenous village located in Vancouver but some objected to Xwayxway as a title. Out of respect for them, he changed the title.

That's how you be an ally. pic.twitter.com/KZKmUxZl6r

— Brian O'Neill (@NYC__Native) January 19, 2021

Getting into Vivisectvi. Is this band getting more credit now with the trend of cyberpunk music and aesthetics? Feel like there's an opputunity for lots of new fans at this moment

I’ve maintained that classic SP’s evaluation outside of old goth heads has been due for a long time. It’s time for the kids to make it happen already.

They’re pretty deep down in that industrial niche. Once the hip kids make their way through Psychic TV, Einstürzende Neubauten, and EDM, then they’ll be ready.

Fuck fuck fuck abort. You know what I meant.

Skinny Puppy were upper echelon of the niche, hardly buried.

EB and Psychic TV have had cool cred forever and occupy an adjacent, but different sphere.

Similarly messing up acronyms over here haha.

Vivisectvi is really good but I don't think the bonus tracks/EP at the end of CD copies was a good idea, the tracks are fine and there's some albums I love having the bonus tracks (lots of 4AD EPs at the end of albums) but it didn't work for me this time. Clips from films seem to bother me when I know what the film is, I find it a little distracting at times.

i had never heard Funguss before (the other 2 bonus tracks are 12" b-sides). i dig it.

i've been listening to The Centre Bullet again lots recently and it seems amazing to me it was only ever a CD bonus track, although of course it has a second life as a Tear Garden song too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRdbFMZghH8

They're done, having just completed a four-night stand in L.A. Interesting separate interviews with Ogre and Key.

Full respect, wish I had made the journey to see the tour. They stand near Bauhaus for me in the echoing influence of oppressive darkness always taken one step further. I think Too Dark Park was the peak. Am also a HUGE stan for the Hilt side project. I have more minutes listening to Hilt than SP I think...