33 1/3 Series of books

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I'm very very psyched to read Franklin's book too.

Douglas (Douglas), Sunday, 10 April 2005 06:53 (nineteen years ago) link

The Endtroducing one looks great. I love this:

Just out of curiosity, could you tell me what you think is the difference between turntablism and scratching?

Turntablism is the description of scratching that’s supposed to make people who don’t listen to hip-hop, sit up and go “Hmm, maybe it is real music.” Scratching, to me, is just what it is. Turntablism has this virtuosic aspect to it, and to me, that’s when things start to turn jazzy. And I’m not a huge fan of when things turn jazzy. Because when I think of jazzy, I think of Wynton Marsalis.

Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 10 April 2005 08:28 (nineteen years ago) link

i enjoyed Matos's book. Does pretty much everything: talks about each track in detail, the album in the context of the rest of Prince's discog, and relates it to his personal experiences at the time of release and thereafter. Couldn't HAVE wished for much more.

i saw Douglas's book in the shop the other day. Looked a bit dauntingly 'conceptual' on a quick flip through, what with all the headings and shit. But I'm sure it's a good read and i'll probably buy it. Anybody else read this?

zebedee (zebedee), Sunday, 10 April 2005 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Just to clarify, what I really liked is not so much the Wynton Marsalis diss. What's cool is that he actually treats "mak(ing) people who don't listen to hip-hop sit up and go 'Hmm, maybe it is real music.'" as a negative.

Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 10 April 2005 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Z: I did read it and it is good. A Poe short story, too: you can down it in one sitting.

I should really put together a proposal for "Return to the 36 Chambers".

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 10 April 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Did anyone hear anything about the Loveless book?

Orange, Sunday, 10 April 2005 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...
Don't know about the Loveless book, but all of these, if you were hoping, ain't happening:

Songs in the Key of Life, by Dave Hesmondhalgh
Parallel Lines, by Elisabeth Vincentelli
Three Feet High and Rising, by Brian Coleman
Tusk, by Stephin Merritt
Computer Love, by Michael Bracewell
Marquee Moon, by David Keenan
Master of Puppets, by Tom Bissell
The Basement Tapes, by Damon Krukowski

The editor/creator of the series, David Barker runs a blog about the series. Email him directly if you like:

http://33third.blogspot.com/

I finally read one of these. I think I picked a great place to start, Douglas Wolk's Live at the Apollo. It was really really good.

Matt Sab (Matt Sab), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Greatly enjoyed Meat Is Murder, the Joy Division one was more of a factual view but still very interesting, the Dusty one didn't work for me.

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:29 (eighteen years ago) link

God, I cannot wait for the In the Aeroplane over the Sea book. The excerpt and things I've read by the author seem like she really gets it spot on.

PB, Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:32 (eighteen years ago) link

why aren't those ones happening?

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link

i just bought the James Brown too. not started it yet.

also got the ABBA one, which i devoured in a day. twas OK, wish Ms Vincentelli had spent fewer sentences justifying (or having to justify) the book's very existence. also i'm not sure she cracked the problem of how to order the narrative, though I accept it's a toughie.

zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link

according to the blog:

These are a few of the projects that - for various and sometimes complicated reasons - never made it to fruition. Some came very close to happening, others less so; but they all would have been fun.

Matt Sab (Matt Sab), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 16:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Don't know about the Loveless book, but all of these, if you were hoping, ain't happening:

Songs in the Key of Life, by Dave Hesmondhalgh

Why not?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 16:48 (eighteen years ago) link

For those ...

Matos' Sign O'The Times book's prince has been slashed (on Amazon at least) to $4.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0826415474/qid=1122928710/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/002-2999298-5726417?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

Matt Sab (Matt Sab), Monday, 1 August 2005 19:47 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
I'm sorry to tell you that we've chosen not to sign up your proposal for the 33 1/3 series.

This has been a difficult process: we received dozens of very strong proposals from dozens of very good writers and it's a shame to have to turn down so many of you.

If you're interested, the 33 1/3 books we eventually decided to sign up are:

"If You're Feeling Sinister" by Scott Plagenhoef

"Aja" by Don Breithaupt

"Shoot Out the Lights" by Hayden Childs

"Pretty Hate Machine" by Daphne Carr

"Use Your Illusion" by Eric Weisbard

"Horses" by Phil Shaw

"Double Nickels on the Dime" by Mike Fournier

"Pink Moon" by Amanda Petrusich

"People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm" by Shawn Taylor

"Achtung Baby" by Stephen Catanzarite

"20 Jazz Funk Greats" by Drew Daniel

"The Dreaming" by Ann Powers

"Rid of Me" by Kate Schatz

"Another Green World" by Geeta Dayal

"Songs in the Key of Life" by Zeth Lundy

"Trout Mask Replica" by Kevin Courrier

"Let's Talk About Love" by Carl Wilson

"Lucinda Williams" by Anders Smith Lindall

"69 Love Songs" by LD Beghtol

“Marquee Moon” by Peter Blauner

“Swordfishtrombones” by David Smay

that's so taylrr (ken taylrr), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Congrats to Drew and Geeta! (Are there other ILMers on this list I don't know?)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link

ann powers is actually esteban buttez

cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Scott P. has been around since the Greenspun days.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:47 (eighteen years ago) link

i wish you could get these easily in book stores (AND NOT JUST IN THE AEROPLANE MURMUR THE SEA LIKE ROUND HERE).

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:41 (eighteen years ago) link

hey everybody read the frank bruno one and then try to make yrs like him cuz it is AWESOME

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:42 (eighteen years ago) link

i have only read 2

cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:42 (eighteen years ago) link

the franklin bruno one is not only awesome, it is superhuman. one of my fave pieces of rock criticism ever.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah same here

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I loved that review he wrote of that indie-boy novel, so I guess I gotta get this book.

Redd Harvest (Ken L), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:30 (eighteen years ago) link

ysi?

cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:31 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
DeRo disses Matos for doing (very well IMHO) what he himself does in like every review ever (poorly IEHO): http://www.suntimes.com/output/derogatis/sho-sunday-dero04.html
http://topatoco.com/artwork/itson-big.jpg

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 9 June 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.furious.com/perfect/graphics/lesterjim2.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Jim Milonakis?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I found that one entertaining and was actually less satisfied with Michaelangelo Matos' self-indulgent look at Prince's "Sign o' the Times," which spent entirely too much time dwelling on how the author discovered the disc as a teenager in the Minneapolis suburbs.

So then I guess he didn't read the 100-odd pages in which Matos discussed Prince.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Shh, you're giving it away!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link

"...he not only gives us the perfect adjective for Sly's dense epic ("swampy," indeed) but the nugget that this was a pioneering use of the beat box. (Who knew? I didn't.)"

DeRo is a FUCKING MORON.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I just finished the one on PAUL'S BOUTIQUE. It's only the third I've read thus far, but it's the one I've enjoyed the most.

Terrible Cold (Terrible Cold), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

The one supposedly on the Replacements was AWFUL!

Jeff LeVine (Jeff LeVine), Friday, 9 June 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I just finished the one on PAUL'S BOUTIQUE. It's only the third I've read thus far, but it's the one I've enjoyed the most.

Yeah, it's all info, no prose. A lot of the 33 1/3 books seem to forget how much people like that.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

personally speaking, i'd read a book that wasn't taking on yet another album from the canon. c'mon, guys! dig deeper!

gear (gear), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Christ, that quotation. Shakey OTM.

David Bachyrycz (David Bachyrycz), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

c'mon, guys! dig deeper!

Someone should do Tom T. Hall's greatest hits.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

(That was a "dig deeper" joke in case it wasn't clear. LOL @ self.)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I just fell asleep.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i've got an idea, fellas, let's create a book series in which we reinforce the canon some more.

seriously though, i realize the books have to sell, hence the more mainstream angle. i'm sure there are a ton of albums the writers would love to write about that aren't commercially viable for the publisher.

gear (gear), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:11 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.tapemountain.com/raggett.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

ned you should pitch that one!

actually do you think they would let somebody self-33 1/3? if it was some famous musician?

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:33 (seventeen years ago) link

"Morrissey on...Morrissey."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Morrissey did write a book actually! (didnt he?)

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:41 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, i think it was about the new york dolls or something

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:55 (seventeen years ago) link

He founded the series in spirit!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i thought it was on James Dean, re: Moz's book

that's so taylrr (ken taylrr), Saturday, 10 June 2006 02:04 (seventeen years ago) link

"Morrissey on...Morrissey."

Morrissey is not attracted to Morrissey.

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Saturday, 10 June 2006 02:15 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm sure there are a ton of albums the writers would love to write about that aren't commercially viable for the publisher.

Carl Wilson is writing one about Celine Dion's "Let's Talk About Love".

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 10 June 2006 02:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Damn, I always think about pitching one for New Orleans brass band, and the genre format would be much better than a single album (at least for wider appeal). But I'm sure it would take over my life, and pinning down all the musicians for interviews would be an exhausting process.

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Friday, 16 June 2023 17:35 (ten months ago) link

The one about Depeche Mode 101 looks promising..

Table of Contents
1. Live or Memorex?
2. Is “Music” Electric?
3. It's Hip, it's Totally Hip, It's the Only Thing Happening
4. Dreamboats and Market Shares
5. Uneasy Listening
6. America, Man
7. “KROQ's Woodstock”
8. No Mode, No Nirvana: 101 and its Legacy

https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/depeche-modes-101-9781501390326/

piscesx, Sunday, 18 June 2023 18:42 (nine months ago) link

Missed a trick by not having it as #101 in the series.

Dan Worsley, Sunday, 18 June 2023 18:50 (nine months ago) link

That wouldn't bode well for a book about Yes' 90125

Hideous Lump, Sunday, 18 June 2023 20:06 (nine months ago) link

I started to put together a genre pitch back in the initial round but then realized I’d much rather just write about one album.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 18 June 2023 20:09 (nine months ago) link

other than an ilxor writing about dolly parton i don't recognize the names of anyone writing new books. (not that i ever read them. i never see them anywhere anymore! i think i would have to live in a city to see them...or be an internet shopper...)

scott seward, Sunday, 18 June 2023 21:20 (nine months ago) link

RC, you should do a wolf eyes book. has anyone done one? or a noise book!

scott seward, Sunday, 18 June 2023 21:21 (nine months ago) link

Who knows, man? Who knows…

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 18 June 2023 21:53 (nine months ago) link

I would read Jordan on New Orleans brass !

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 18:29 (nine months ago) link

Pulp’s This is Hardcore coming next year by Jane Savidge.

https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/pulps-this-is-hardcore-9798765106952/

piscesx, Sunday, 2 July 2023 04:11 (nine months ago) link

Nice.

Looking For Mr. Goodreads (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 July 2023 18:47 (nine months ago) link

The Dead C’s Clyma est mort

wow!

Reeves Gabrels' Funko Pop (majorairbro), Tuesday, 4 July 2023 08:35 (nine months ago) link

ooh nice

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 4 July 2023 16:22 (nine months ago) link

!

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 4 July 2023 16:36 (nine months ago) link

Just a warning--the Dead C's one is in 33 1/3 Oceania which I learned, on buying two of the books in that series yesterday, is a completely different size to the rest of the books. This is aesthetically maddening.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0K_qQoaIAEfvmw?format=jpg&name=large

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 4 July 2023 23:11 (nine months ago) link

This one just came in at the library. Looks interesting:

https://333sound.com/vopli-vidopliassovas-tantsi-excerpt/

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Monday, 17 July 2023 18:18 (eight months ago) link

oh, excellent. one of the best post soviet bands and one of the best post soviet albums. i still remember seeing the Tantsi video when it was first broadcast.

scanner darkly, Monday, 17 July 2023 20:59 (eight months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Have to say the upcoming Erotica book sounds fascinating

Everyone wanted Madonna’s Erotica to be scandalous, even pornographic. In the midst of the early 1990s culture wars, conservatives wanted it to be proof of the decline of family values. The target of conservative loathing, gay men reeling from the AIDS epidemic wanted it to be a celebration of a sexual culture that had rapidly slipped away. And of course Madonna herself, who released the album at the same time as her actually pornographic coffee-book table simply titled Sex, knew sex sells. But Erotica is more sentimental than sexual. At a time when sex was deadly, this sentimentality was not kitsch, but a way of sustaining a sexual culture. In this book, Michael Dango shows how Erotica marks an inflection point in multiple narratives. It is the album in which Madonna began more directly addressing her gay audience, at the same time that gay politics was transitioning from a sexual liberation framework to a rights-based framework that would ultimately culminate in same-sex marriage. To tell this story, Dango draws on his own experiences positioned between two generations of gay people―between a generation decimated by AIDS and a generation that grew up assuming they would be able to get married―as well as works of queer theory, which emerged in the academy at the same time as Madonna emerged on the music scene.

https://www.roughtrade.com/gb/product/michael-dango/madonnas-erotica-33-13

piscesx, Sunday, 13 August 2023 19:59 (eight months ago) link

I expect nothing less than one of this series’ finest moments from that entry

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Sunday, 13 August 2023 20:53 (eight months ago) link

one month passes...

I sometimes daydream about which album I would write about were I to ever send in a proposal.
And I think I've worked out that it would have to be Confield by Autechre.
Partly because I've already written a good 3 or 4 articles about them in the past and I'm a big nerd; but specifically this album because while it is likely their most well-recognised album, it's also the one I've had most trouble getting to grips with. And it's precisely this "thorniness", with 22 years' hindsight, that I'd like to make peace with. Whereas I could probably wax lyrical about LP5 or Sign or Oversteps, it's Confield that I think would yield the most interesting writing

...eh you get the gist of it (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:51 (six months ago) link

I would love to read that.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 22:21 (six months ago) link

I daydream about writing one on You and Your Sister by the Vulgar Boatmen.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 23:43 (six months ago) link

It looks like two really great ones are out this month and next month; Erotica and Ingenue, good timing too considering they’re both from the same year.

piscesx, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 00:26 (six months ago) link

four months pass...

Open call for Proposals for 2024, deadline is March 29th.

https://333sound.com/33-1-3-open-call-for-proposals-2024/

piscesx, Thursday, 8 February 2024 14:16 (two months ago) link


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