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last train to Clarksville, yes

chris (chris), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 10:44 (twenty years ago) link

Both, plus the Beatles' "I Feel Fine"

Chris Clark (Chris Clark), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 10:55 (twenty years ago) link

They claimed the first EP was "A Beatles song, a House of Love Song, a My Bloody Valentine song" and... and... I forget what the other one was supposed to be a rip-off of? The Byrds?

kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 10:56 (twenty years ago) link

Almost forgot "Paperback Writer"...

Chris Clark (Chris Clark), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 10:58 (twenty years ago) link

i remember the video for chelsea girl, the camera showed the strings of the guitar and i wanted to play guitar from that moment. i ended up playing drums, but that's another story (they had a really good drummer anyway).
my favourite ride song would be chelsea girl, twisterella or leave them all behind. can't decide (derile) now.

joan vich (joan vich), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 11:03 (twenty years ago) link

I remember Mark G's unfortunate haircut in the Chelsea Girl video and how much it made him look like Ian McCullough!

kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 11:05 (twenty years ago) link

i can't remember his haircut, i only remember the guitar strings!

joan vich (joan vich), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 11:07 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.ticket2ride.it/imgs/picgal/mark/b019.jpg

It's such a shame that he lost it all, though...

kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 11:28 (twenty years ago) link

so are they really coming back? after the telescopes reforming i'd believe anything...

joan vich (joan vich), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:00 (twenty years ago) link

When Oasis break up.

::please god, please god, please god::

kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:00 (twenty years ago) link

is there a reason for oasis not to break up?
c'mon, you've got all the money you wanted, now stop writing that mediocre shit.

joan vich (joan vich), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:02 (twenty years ago) link

It's all about the ego! I mean the cocaine! I mean, the ego! I mean... oh dear.

It's funny cause Andy Bell was my favourite one out of Ride for a long time. Joining Oasis put a stop to all that.

kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:03 (twenty years ago) link

i choose carnival of life because it's the only one with any proper tunes on it.

doom-e, Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:06 (twenty years ago) link

>so are they really coming back?

from http://nightshift.oxfordmusic.net/0403/news-pg2.html

April 03

Mark Gardener played his first live show in over two years last month and was joined by former Ride bandmates Andy Bell and Loz Colbert towards the end of the gig for a short set of old Ride songs. Mark was playing at Truck Records' regular Trailerpark club night at the Cellar as a warm-up to a string of American and Canadian dates later in the month. It was his first foray into the live arena since the demise of The Animalhouse and showcased a number of new songs he has written for a solo album. In front of a full house, including many die-hard Ride fans, Mark started his et with three new songs, `What You Get', `Beautiful Ghosts' and `Turn', as well as a solo version of Ride classic `From Time To Time'. Then he was joined by Robin and Joe Bennett from Goldrush for a version of his debut solo single, `Magdalen Sky', originally released on Shifty Disco 1997. With his band then swelled by other members of Goldrush, Mark played a cover of The Band's `Makes No Difference' as well as two more new songs, `To Get Me Through' and `Snow In Mexico'.

Until they were spotted in the crowd though, no-one suspected that Andy and Loz would be joining Mark on stage. Indeed Andy, now the bass player for Oasis, was only in Oxford by accident that night, after mix-up with his own gig dates. He sang `Vapour Trail' with Mark playing guitar and Loz on drums before Mark returned to lead vocal duties for `Dreams Burn Down' and `In A Different Place', with Andy on guitar.

Ride previously reunited briefly at the end of 2001 - with bass player Steve Queralt - for a one-off studio session as part of a tribute to Sonic Youth for Channel 4.

Chris Clark (Chris Clark), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:08 (twenty years ago) link

AAARRGGGHGHEHEHA;ORKOIHER;AKJHEFJHHAKJTGALKJRTGLKJb

those fuckers. those fucking fuckers. ::QUAKES WITH ANGER AND ENVY::

I hate Truck even more now, with fucking nameless revulsion and jealousy and OH I HATE THEM I HATE THEM SO MUCH, THOSE FUCKING WORTHLESS FUCKERS GET A RIDE REUNION


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHH.

This makes me so angry I can't even speak.

:-(

kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:12 (twenty years ago) link

I wish you hadn't told me that. It's ruined my day.

:-(((((((((((((

kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:13 (twenty years ago) link

Well, my post will seem fairly tame in comparison. ;-) I'd have to pick "Vapour Trail" too if only because that's the one I think of the most (probably because of all the planes in the air around here -- Stripey and I usually end up either humming the melody or quoting the first few lyrics at each other should one of us notice the titular object).

Anything released after the "Twisterella" single doesn't exist. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:19 (twenty years ago) link

DIE GOLDRUSH DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIIIIIIIIIEIIIEIEIEIEIEIEIEIIIIIEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:23 (twenty years ago) link

"Time Machine"

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:23 (twenty years ago) link

'little james' - the demo that andy did for oasis.

doom-e, Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:25 (twenty years ago) link

Cant choose between the whole of side two of Nowhere. And what was the b side of Leave Them All Behind? Grasshopper I think, it was a twenty minute thing, that was good.

Carnival of Light was boring dadrock.

flowersdie (flowersdie), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:44 (twenty years ago) link

Hey! The second half of Carnival of Wife was boring dadrock but the first half of it was lovely melodic Ride as we know and love them. So there.

::we now return you to your regularly scheduled vitriolic outburst of hatred::

DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE!!!!!

kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:46 (twenty years ago) link

Am I the only one who really loves both GBA and Carnival? The strange thing with Carnival for me is that I totally LOVE 5 tracks and can't be bothered by the other 7. But those 5 are SO good IMO that I just love the whole album. I know it's dad rock, but I don't care.

POO of both albums seems impossible. Carnival is probably the easiest: 'Only Now'. The melancholy!
GBA: 'Twisterella'? 'Chrome Waves'? 'OX4'? 'Leave Them All Behind'? Don't know...

Crispijn, Tuesday, 24 June 2003 13:06 (twenty years ago) link

Only Now is my LEAST favourite song on all of Carnival. Yeesh!

kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 13:09 (twenty years ago) link

I always loved Grasshopper on the B-side of Leave Them All Behind.

And I'm so downloading that live gig when I get home.

James, Tuesday, 24 June 2003 13:21 (twenty years ago) link

It still goes back to "Leave Them All Behind," for me...a song which brings to mind (alas,) the Spinal Tap phrase about "the majesty of rock," but...phew. What a monster that song is.

I gots no axe to grind with "Carnival of Light," of which I dig portions, and I happen to think "Black Nite Crash" is acceptable fake-Stooges...

M Specktor (M Specktor), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 14:55 (twenty years ago) link

i still love their take on the creation's 'how does it feel to feel', but that's an anecdote.

joan vich (joan vich), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 15:16 (twenty years ago) link

"Seagull" for sure. "Vapour Trail" is nice but a little bit too twee for me.

Clarke B. (stolenbus), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 16:28 (twenty years ago) link

Like A Daydream, because everyone else has said Leave Them All Behind already.

I like the intro to Chrome Waves plenty.

derrick (derrick), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 16:28 (twenty years ago) link

The cello on "Vapour Trail" is ever so slightly out of tune, too, which kind of takes away from the grandeur the song aims for (which "Seagull" in its noise flurry achieves). I mean I know it's indie and they're not like Chicago or anything, but man, you'd think a cellist would have at least some sort of ear, it not being an instrument you just kinda pick up and learn.

Clarke B. (stolenbus), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 16:30 (twenty years ago) link

"twisterella" and "leave them all behind" cassingles are the only good things they did IMHO.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 16:35 (twenty years ago) link

Carnival Of Light! WOOOOO

In all seriousness, "I Don't Know Where It Comes From" is incredible.

Samuel Bloch, Tuesday, 24 June 2003 17:33 (twenty years ago) link

There can be only one... "Leave Them All Behind". That one part towards the end when the phased guitar lead comes in is one of my favorite moments in music ever.

The "Leave Them All Behind" single is the greatest thing ever, you've got LTAB, a nicely roughed up version of "Chrome Waves" and "Grasshopper".

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 17:52 (twenty years ago) link

Except that single has, by default, the single edit of LTAB, so no. You need the full damn thing.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 17:59 (twenty years ago) link

Like a Daydream

Tracks 3->6 on the first album

Twisterella

I got Mark Gardener to play "In a Different Place" when he came to Detroit earlier this year. One of these days I'll post the pics from that on my website.

Kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 18:03 (twenty years ago) link

As it tends to occur with most bands whose singles i'd collected, the new remasters offer a bunch of tasty's only hereto available as a b-side -- and yes, the single version of LTAB is the equal of "boar-hog teats" -- and anotherthing, Tarantula is utter rubbish (as was (most of) Carnival).

--The remasters, though, any comment on their improved headroom?

christoff (christoff), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 18:40 (twenty years ago) link

I love Carnival of Light. It was the first Ride record I ever heard, and it has a special, special place in my heart. (And 'Crown of Creation' is my favourite song off it, for reasons best left unmentioned.)

'Vapour Trail' for me. My tape of 'Nowhere' died from too much rewinding back to that song.

cis (cis), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 22:03 (twenty years ago) link

like a daydream, cause it was the first one i heard. 'today' is second, 'todeay forever' was their most perfect release, i will treasure it always.

keith (keithmcl), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 22:34 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, today forever is the top of the pile, especially the fishy sleeve

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 22:43 (twenty years ago) link

"Seagull", preferably live. Loved the early Ride gigs, but even at the height of my regard for the band the albums were kinda flat. Had totally lost interest after the 2nd LP.

Wandering Boy Poet, Tuesday, 24 June 2003 23:32 (twenty years ago) link

All due respect to the early records, but their place in Valhalla was secured by their digging up Jon Lord and letting him Hammond all over 'Moonlight Medicine'.

Jeff Wright, Wednesday, 25 June 2003 02:09 (twenty years ago) link

seeing the ride and lush tour when i was a teenager changed my life, it didn't actually, but what about those days when you actually wanted to see opening bands ride/lush, ride/slowdive, catherine wheel/slowdive, house of love/catherine wheel, even bloody revolver and the dreadful drop nineteens.

keith (keithmcl), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 02:24 (twenty years ago) link

MarkH:

you're not alone, "Taste" is the best one, with "Seagull" a close second.

beaty (beaty), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 04:50 (twenty years ago) link

I never actually answers the question. Um, LTAB I guess. Though there are plenty others i might say after just hearing them.

Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 10:05 (twenty years ago) link

I completely forgot about like a daydream , so I'm changing my mind to that.

and also I'm off to buy a cd or two to replace my v old vinyl copies.

chris (chris), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 10:15 (twenty years ago) link

Ride Reunion?
http://www.nunuworldmusic.co.uk/photos/040303/8.jpg

I still wished I'd done something to Andy Bell.. for being in Oasis and all that.

jellybean (jellybean), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 10:33 (twenty years ago) link

"Kaleidoscope", for its aggressive sugary pop-ness. why oh why was it never a single ?

darren (darren), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 11:06 (twenty years ago) link

God, he looks so old. What's wrong with his head? That man is the same age as me. That scares me.

DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE... (sorry.)

kate (kate), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 11:11 (twenty years ago) link

surely that was Chapterhouse Kate?

HMV in Uxbridge = NOT ONE RIDE CD!!!!!!!!!!

chris (chris), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 11:52 (twenty years ago) link

What was Chapterhouse?

kate (kate), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 11:58 (twenty years ago) link

Holy crap, that made me feel like I was in the 60's literally.

Bimble, Monday, 16 July 2007 00:59 (sixteen years ago) link

'vapour trail', by a billion miles.

haitch, Monday, 16 July 2007 01:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Sure, we should have a poll of Ride songs and Vapour Trail would win. Not undeservedly.

Bimble, Monday, 16 July 2007 01:24 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

re: live b00tlegs (upthread) - Bimble, I've managed to track down my dusty old cassettes. I've got the first gig at The Jericho Tavern (Jan 89) and three other Oxford gigs from 1989 plus Town & Country gig from 28 October 1990. I was wrong about this: some gig somewhere up north (maybe Leeds?) in 1991 (I think this was shortly before they supported The Pixies at Crystal Palace, so maybe May or June 91) which featured Leave Them All Behind for the first time . It's actually a gig at Leeds Poly from July 91 which was the warm up for the Slough Festival. It has got LTAB on it, but isn't the first time they played it. A lot of it is very low quality, but I'll upl0ad bits and pieces. Here's a couple of tracks taped off the radio from the Brits at Wembley Arena in Jan 91 (link only valid for a week):
Chelsea Girl
Seagull
(a few seconds missing from the second one when I had to turn the tape over!)

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 18:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Ride played the Brits? That seems unlikely.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 23 August 2007 20:49 (sixteen years ago) link

It happened, kind of. I think the Brits had become seen as stale and out of touch, endlessly giving awards to tedious Phil Collins / Eurythmics / Tina Turner / Elton John / Eric Clapton types, and there was the embarrassing nightmare when it was hosted by Sam Fox and that bloke from Fleetwood Mac, so there was a bit of a push to try and make it more credible. If memory serves me right, Jonathon King was behind this (so obviously it didn't become much more credible). They had a night (or possibly two nights) at Wembley Arena where a whole series of acts played very short gigs (just time for four or five songs each). These acts were supposed to be a bit more 'happening'. Apart from Ride, I'm pretty sure they had the Wedding Present and Carter USM. Possibly The Cure. I've got a feeling Billy Bragg was there. Unless I'm getting mixed up with something else there was Lisa Stansfield going "say no to war in the Gulf!" which got censored by the BBC. All of this was broadcast live (or nearly live) on Radio 1. The actual Brits Award TV programme was few days later, though, and didn't show much of the gig. Ride were reduced to about five seconds of Chelsea Girl, I think.

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Thursday, 23 August 2007 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Glad to hear *your* tapes have turned up, Nasty, for my letter to my mother has gone unanswered, though I've gotten over the disappointment of this. Thanks for the links and the effort. I will give them a go.

When indeed WAS the first time they played LTAB? As far as the website I posted above's best guess it was June 8, 1991 at London Crystal Palace. I had been under the impression it was a mere gig or two before I saw them at Pukkelpop but then, these were the days before the internet and all I knew was what I'd read in the NME or whatever.

Bimble, Friday, 24 August 2007 04:03 (sixteen years ago) link

My vote goes to "Nowhere" the song.

stephen, Friday, 24 August 2007 08:42 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Here's some more stuff. Gig at Town & Country, Kentish Town from 28 October 1990.
Part One: Polar Bear, Chelsea Girl, Here and Now
As before, only valid for a week, rest of the gig to follow later...

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Saturday, 15 September 2007 18:38 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah the BRITS 1991 gig happened, i was there. disconcertingly i rather enjoyed The Wedding Present that night.

i'd like to bang on about Ride big time but whenever i do that about 1990's bands i feel like Homer that time, going on about Grand Funk Railroad when the kids are in the back of the car.

pisces, Saturday, 15 September 2007 19:07 (sixteen years ago) link

"We think feedback's neat, we're staring at our feet"
We're a shoegazing band"

Cunga, Sunday, 16 September 2007 01:33 (sixteen years ago) link

I enjoyed that, thanks. It's a long time since I heard anyone rhyme fly/sky/high/made her cry.

Whenever I listen to Ride these days it's only the drums I hear. It annoys me that Loz has spent the last eleven years tapping on a chest of drawers in his room or wherever, instead of being the gun-for-hire amongst sessioneers. The Rolling Stones should've ditched Charlie and got Loz in instead.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 17 September 2007 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link

I agree, Loz cannot be praised enough. But didn't he join some other band recently that I can't remember now? Someone said...didn't Colonel Poo say he played with Jesus & Mary Chain when they reunited?

Bimble, Monday, 17 September 2007 20:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Here's the rest of that gig:
Part Two = Dreams Burn Down, Perfect Time, Paralysed
Part Three = Vapour Trail
Part Four = Drive Blind, Taste, Nowhere, Decay (in reality I think they did Seagull as an encore, but the tape ran out before that)

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Monday, 17 September 2007 21:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Good lord in heaven, Nasty. So many goodies! I'm not sure I deserve this, but thanks.

Bimble, Monday, 17 September 2007 22:15 (sixteen years ago) link

four years pass...

Vapour Trail is so , so good.

I was too busy with the Azzerrad type bands at the time and fell for the shoey scene that celebrates and missed Ride 'part from 'Leave them all behind'. And missed Swervedriver too you jour no cunts. My bullshit detector well off

the drummer is such a fucking tease.

Excellent stuff

Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Sunday, 12 February 2012 02:47 (twelve years ago) link

What I'm trying to say is that I fell for the NME's description at the time and avoided most of that music.

FFs , it was only 67 years ago

Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Sunday, 12 February 2012 02:57 (twelve years ago) link

When the drums kick in on "vapour trail", oh man. love how the drums sound all over that album

river, Sunday, 12 February 2012 05:03 (twelve years ago) link

Alan Moulder rules so hard

river, Sunday, 12 February 2012 05:05 (twelve years ago) link

he really does

Z S, Sunday, 12 February 2012 05:05 (twelve years ago) link

I have managed to completely wear out Vapour Trail, I'm all about Sennen these days.

Seeing that ACPG movie made me dig out all these records - oh and Swervedriver too - love them so much, it's all about the drums.

Though I won't say how weird it was seeing Mark Gardener and Gaz Supergrass sitting next to each other on the panel both insisting "no, really, we're not the same person, we're both here!"

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Sunday, 12 February 2012 10:13 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

oh HELLO

ttp://theseconddisc.com/2012/04/25/going-blank-again-again-ride-to-reissue-sophomore-album-with-bonus-live-film/#more-12973

piscesx, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

sorry try this

http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2012/04/20/ride-going-blank-again-reissue/

piscesx, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

Love this stuff but bonus DVDs do nothing for me. Now, if they included a digital download for the live gig too...

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link


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