Green Day: C/D?

"Billie Joe is seeking treatment for substance abuse. We would like everyone to know that our set was not cut short by Clear Channel and to apologize to those we offended at the iHeartRadio Festival in Las Vegas. We regretfully must postpone some of our upcoming promotional appearances."

You know, I feel for the guy, if he's seeking help for a problem. But what a brazen kiss-up apology to the group's commercial cash cow enablers.

Like how this thread jumps straight from the 'hey remember them' years to the 'corporate rock burnout!' current moment. American Wha?

Now wait one minute. I said, ONE MINUTES.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9zogQOmQVM

remember, billy was a meth-head from the early days up til insomniac, which is a straight speed album. wonder if it's coke now

it figured that when that Clear Channel megafestival put a hundred big name stars onstage for 20 minutes or whatever at a time that someone would blow a gasket that they weren't treated like a headliner for once in their career. it's just really funny that it was Green Day.

^^and on top of that, they'd been schilling something serious for it. Been hearing tons of radio promos "starring" members of Green Day talking up the show like it was the second coming of Monterey or The US Festival.

there's something about when Dirnt realizes what Billie is doing and takes off his bass and starts slamming it to the ground (~1:36) that is so sweet and sort of sad in a solidarity-meets-puppy dog following its master kind of way. dirnt is like tuning or something and then all of a sudden it's like he goes "oh we are doing this now!"

(note: I don't hate this band and think dirnt is cool and an underrated contributor to its sound, don't mean to be slagging him too much)

no you observation is totally otm

i thought so too, just didn't want to come off as too harsh on a dude i've always liked.

Dirnt is a cool cat.

those poor kids having to watch this while waiting for Usher to come on :-(

On the cynical scale, how cynical is it to note that these meltdowns and rehab stints so often come right when the band as a new album to promote?

Green Day rhythm section totally great, no prob with those forced-to-wear-eyeliner-and-get-goofy-haircuts dudes. I wonder if they hang with the guys from No Doubt and commiserate? Dirnt, by the way, only 40, which is impressive, given how long the group has been around and how much he gets pegged the old guy. Billie Joe's only 40, too, and Tre Cool is 39. Dave Grohl, for comparison, is 43. Who are going to be the 50 and 60 year old legacy acts touring arenas in 20 years when Springsteen and Prince and the like are retired? Will it be bands like Green Day and Foo Fighters and I guess Nickelback or something? Will there be 50-something stock brokers pulling strings to get primo Green Day seats at the hockey arena in 2030?

I've watched this clip several times now, it's kind of mesmerizing. Although, I gotta say, he really doesn't seem like he's on anything. Just pissed off.

The line about being around since 1988 is a bit sad though. Could have done without that.

It sounds lame, because it's the 80s, but that was 25 years ago, which is amazing. That punk Usher's only been around for, like, 18.

On the other hand, it does prove he's pumped out more subsequent hard jams than Mary Margaret O'Hara

you can tell he's punk because he's self-righteous and swears a lot

there's something about when Dirnt realizes what Billie is doing and takes off his bass and starts slamming it to the ground (~1:36) that is so sweet and sort of sad in a solidarity-meets-puppy dog following its master kind of way. dirnt is like tuning or something and then all of a sudden it's like he goes "oh we are doing this now!"

otm about how there's a real sweetness to that - guy's trying to save face for his bud in front of a lot of people, thinking on his feet to minimize any fallout from what just went down - really human half-second there

"About to make Fender real happy they signed me to Squier..."

you can tell he's punk because he's self-righteous and swears a lot

Easily their most punk performance :)

Green Day rhythm section totally great, no prob with those forced-to-wear-eyeliner-and-get-goofy-haircuts dudes. I wonder if they hang with the guys from No Doubt and commiserate? Dirnt, by the way, only 40, which is impressive, given how long the group has been around and how much he gets pegged the old guy. Billie Joe's only 40, too, and Tre Cool is 39. Dave Grohl, for comparison, is 43. Who are going to be the 50 and 60 year old legacy acts touring arenas in 20 years when Springsteen and Prince and the like are retired? Will it be bands like Green Day and Foo Fighters and I guess Nickelback or something? Will there be 50-something stock brokers pulling strings to get primo Green Day seats at the hockey arena in 2030?

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, September 24, 2012 7:53 AM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think the touring business is going to totally different then, straight up. after Springsteen and U2 stop touring, probably no rock act will ever tour at that level again.

Sorry to hijack the discussion, but has anyone heard the new album? Is it any good?

yeah it's dece. closer to dookie than 21st century crapblow

thanks. listening to a couple songs, might actually buy this.

wondering what prescription meds he's hooked on....adderall, vyvanse would make sense given his past abuse of meth and amps. INSOMNIAC might be the greatest speed album ever made. btw, reading the 12 year old green day fans' reactions and forced denials on the main msg board is pretty hilarious: http://www.greendaycommunity.org/topic/90220-billie-getting-treatment-for-substance-abuse/

it's as if they've never listened to the lyrics of GEEK STINK BREATH. if you're a speed/meth head like that, you're gonna have drug issues later on.

lol @ "So it looks like Billie was under substance abuse when performing at the iHeartRadio festival."

I didn't realize I had this hierarchy in my head until just now, but there's a "has their shit together" meter where I'd always put Green Day ahead of Metallica, expecting them never to change positions.

why cant green day be that exciting and unpredictable while accepting their grammy awards?

because they were given as much time as they wanted to give their speech

pretty much zero intelligent discussion on this anywhere on the internet. every green day fan is all "hmm suspicious...seems obviously like a cover-up by clear channel to make sure green day doesn't embarrass them." am i the only one who isn't surprised AT ALL about his drug issues? dude was a fucking METH HEAD at the height of his band's popularity!

So, wait, wait, WAIT.

Are you trying to tell us something, spazz? That Billie Joe Armstong was a METH HEAD?

Maybe he meant to write BETH HEAD.

I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS

I'VE BEEN TAKING CRAZY PILLS SINCE 1988.

so by 'meth' you mean...

I mean it's completely normal to record three complete records all at once, happens all the time.

Hmmm skeptical. On what? For what? Since when? Tested by? Confirmed by?

asking the tough questions

Jordan S, boy detective

These guys used to write songs about doing speed so they must be constantly on it. I don't know, dude obviously has problems and I have no doubt he's indulged in the past. On the other hand, he's held himself together pretty well until this point.

I don't want to be that guy really, but backstage after a Green Day show was one of the most chill, hey-howya-doin' scenes I've ever been to.

Maybe they smoke up all the meth BEFORE the show.

just watched the video, honestly it was pretty hilarious and maybe like 40% righteous

he did seem to be slurring his words to me tho, for whatever that's worth

Oh certainly! The "outburst" didn't even seem that fucking bad!

he did seem to be slurring his words to me tho, for whatever that's worth

Hm. Could just be his English accent tho?

Love his face after 'Look at that fucking sign right there. One. Minute.'

And then the sign says "one minutes". Loved that.

Hm. Could just be his English accent tho?

And then the sign says "one minutes". Loved that.

In England, they add an "s" to "minute," like "maths."

his english accent??

it was a joke on the fact that he sings with a fake accent

it helps that the singles from it weren’t turned into wallpaper by radio overplay

weird that so much recent Green Day reminds me of Northern European rock acts - the Hives, even a bit of Ghost

isn't that just due to them sucking too

been spending more time with the new one. this is definitely the best green day song in a decade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDCReEFO-5M

I heard "Meet Me On the Roof" in the wild yesterday while I was out getting lunch, didn't sound bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAmulKjcHoo

i take back what i said almost four years ago, THIS is the best green day song in more than a decade

I’m… actually kinda enjoying a new Green Day song/video, didn’t see that coming

I wonder how Billie Joe felt making this video

didn't know they still had it in em

nothing revolutionary but compares favourably with blink's attempts to reconcile pop punk with middle age (green day's too for that matter)

the drugs and alcohol are always a worry but i can't really throw stones on that front

Why don't their faces age at all ever

botox

i think billie joe is visibly aging into dave foley

"hey, finally something that's not a little derivative..."

"WELCOME TO MY NIGHTMARE"

"... ok, nevermind.

(And I love Green Day. Kids in the Hall too.)

Sharing this mostly because I wanna know what Ivy thinks

https://www.stereogum.com/2247936/green-day-albums-worst-to-best/lists/counting-down/?fbclid=IwAR2LHSbA84OYQmWtXOVbzqIIHkrtw9Vbu4DBlQAsRIY1UGA6lHiXKkT-KSg

21st century breakdown is way too fucking low

Absolutely unimpeachable top three though, glad to see someone rightly rate Warning and Insomniac over Dookie.

Insomniac is the right answer. It’s the only album of theirs I bother with in full tbh, though Dookie and Warning are great too

for me it goes nimrod / american idiot / 21st century breakdown / warning / insomniac / dookie (cont.)

Kerplunk! is the peak, I listened to most of Warning recent to figure out a song that was stuck in the recesses of my brain and it’s pretty monotonous. Better than everything that came after but worse than Kerplunk to Insomniac.

Warning is one of my favourite sounding albums. Pretty perfect production.

i am blown away that someone would rank 39/smooth over american idiot but reading the blurbs i'm not sure i understand where this writer is coming from at all

might be a microgenerational thing idk, i was an adolescent green day fan and they were the first rock band i liked, even people a few years older than me had little-to-no taste for warning or especially american idiot