K-Mart vs Wal Mart vs Target vs Sears vs whatever your local highmarket department store is.

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Damn you, Budgens, for taking over our local supermarket, as run very well by the same family for decades, and making it rubbish.

Damn you, local corner shop which isn't a Spar any more but I can't remember what it is, for overpricing everything that doesn't have a price printed on the packaging.

I don't know about actually taking sides properly, but Tesco Value choc chip cookies are so so soooo much nicer than Sainsbury's Economy ones, which are not cookies but particularly foul biscuits with vile black flecks in.

Rebecca, Wednesday, 12 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one month passes...
We have a target store in Valdasta Ga. and i went there one time they do not have it

Robert A Billings, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

K-Mart rules all. It may be dirty with a shitty selection and rude employees, but at least it knows its station. No endlessly irritating ad campaigns, no-one drooling all over me as I walk in the store and most importantly I don't think I'm funding any right-wing fundamentalist lunatics a la Sam Walton.

adam, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

yet another good reason to go to athens, gareth.

ethan, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Coincidentaly, K-Mart filed for chapter 11 today. Ah well.

Andrew Williams, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Fuck K-Mart going bankrupt -- I am counting down the days to the death of Tower. Translation = CLEARANCE SALE OF GOD. I hope.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

*sniff* goodbye k-mart. i loved you muchly.

Maria, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

K-Mart is the coolest sounding name by a long shot. They had that fabulous, retro-futuristic, turquise and red logo going for them until they had to go and "update" it. Surely that was their downfall. And of course, only K-Mart boasted a Blue Light Special. Try finding that at a Woolco.

Curt, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Drop me off at Big K-Mart
I'm gonna get myself one of those
Martha Stewart blankets!

Cause I've got company comin in
from outer space
And I want them to be comfy
in my pla-y-ay-ay-ay-ayce!

- Slut 'Em Go!, "Big K", The Lauren Fritz Album

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Hey why do ya'll down on Wal-Mart? It really ain't that bad!!!

Lynn Johnston, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

1. WalMart owns Asda. WalMart are a global supermarket chain, based in America. They bought Asda in 1997, for £6.7billion, and want to be the "leading retailer" in Britatin. They made £5billion in profits last year alone. 2. Asda/WalMart destroy local communities. Within 10 years of WalMart opening stores in Iowa (the US state), 7,326 independent retailers went bankrupt. 3. Jobs will be lost. For every 2 jobs a store creates 3 are lost. UK industry studies show that 276 local jobs disappear when a new so called "superstore" opens. 4. Asda/WalMart want flexible, low paid workers. Staff earn £5 per hour, while the UK Chief gets £235. Shop floor staff in Leyton can't work more than a thirty hour week and are not allowed trade union rights. 5. "One of the worst sweat shop abusers in the world". The National Labour Committee found that WalMart's clothes are made by people doing 12 hour shifts for less than 10p an hour. Slave and child labour in China, Bangladesh, Guatemala and Haiti helps keep prices low. 6. WalMart are guilty of Civil Fraud, selling counterfiet goods, falsifying information, lying in court and discriminating against people who are black, disabled, religious and women. Despite this Tony Blair welcomed them to Britain! 7. Asda/WalMart dictate prices. They cut prices to make competitors go bust. Once local shops have closed down they set what ever price they want and you won't have a choice of products. 8. Asda/WalMart are bad for the environment. Most people did not want the M11 link road. It means more cars, more pollution and it meant kicking lots of people out of their homes. Asda invested £1million in the road, before they got planning permission for their new store.

Alexander, Tuesday, 5 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

two months pass...
go k mart .... go wallmart goooooooooooooooooooooo!!!! i love both sniff* i am goin to uiss it

george, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

If I were a shopping centre I'd sure be embarressed
I'd never get a date with a fancy building - like in Paris.

Pete, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I like JC Penney's.

Ally, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

two months pass...
i work for Wal*mart therefore i will support it, my opinion is this

Target is cleaner K mart is Meaner Walmart sells more Weiner

this is why we win

by the way how does ames stay in business wit an average of 5 customers an hour

Michael D, Tuesday, 18 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

haha that saying r00lz!!

uh i dunno, you know, that ames thing always confused me too

geeta, Tuesday, 18 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

This is a shocking revelation as to the business practices of Wal- Mart. Who knew there was that much profit to be had in man-hoes?

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 18 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Ever wonder how Walmart has double digit sales increases, and the rest of the bunch, (JC Penney, Sears, Kmart, Target, etc., have single digit? Should we question how they "Cook their Books"!?

Laura, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I miss the Eaton's, its slowly changing to a Sears and its just crap down at the Eaton's Center. Now the Bay, least that sucker is still marching on. As for Walmart, I wont go anywhere that automaticaly thinks Im stealing with those damm little stickers on my bag. I survive quite well on the Bay or whats left of Eaton's if I need department store stuff.

Mr Noodles, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

three weeks pass...
I dont know, Ive worked for department stores for 10 years. Then went to K-Mart. Ive been transfered around with K-mart for 12 years. Im in my 11th store, hopefully to stay there. Im in the Daytona Beach store, an exciting store to work in, what with Nascar, spring break, and all the other activities that surrounded in this community. Our store has great employees that ARE Friendly and helpful.SO whats wrong with the K these days. Here it is in a nut shell,,,,,,,, We are on our 3rd CEO in 5 years,,,,, two of whom have left with Big, Big bonus's. One is even being investigated by the FBI. They have become so money hungry they cut operations cost,aka, no employee's on the floor, but the workload has not changed.The employee's benefits have been cut greatly, to pay the salairies of these big bosses up in Troy. The merchandise is there now, after venders have started shipping again, thats why there have been empty shelves you guys.Martha has been a great help, but not lately.We are launching Joe Boxer, exclusive to us. I dont fault the stores for the condition of the company, i fault the past excutives we've had running the company into the ground. And by the way, the last bunch of top brass we had all came from Wal-mart!!!! So in conclusion,, PLEASE shop us, we are trying at store level, and if you have a bad shop with us, TELL the STORE manager!!! We can get these bad employees out, just like any bad employee at Wal-mart or any other retail Store.After all, we all hire people from within the community, there are some bad apples in any town. So, thanks for shopping with us at K-mart in the past, just give us time and you'll see a change soon.We can only get better if we hear from you in person, and not on some message boards like this. After all, there are good people out there in the retail industry, K-mart, Wal-mart, ect.... We want to make a living just like you.

Russ, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Marin County in California has no Target, no Walmart no nothing - complete nightmare. I only came to this website looking for a Target nearby (as they are better than Walmart). But while we're arguing the best store is Tesco Express they are open 24hrs a day even on Christmas Day! Second is Super Target.

Marie Fox, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

For god's sake count your blessings; you live in Marin County! Take the bridge to Richmond if you want to find a fucking Target.

Kris, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Target and Sears rule, K-mart is mediocre, and Wal-Mart sucks!

Dave Maldonado, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Water sucks, gatorade is better, Target too!

Bob Benton, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

two weeks pass...
LOL.....in response to what someone saying about WALMART having pep rallies......yes they do......it is like some kind of a cult thing.....they have learned responses for everything said to them at these meetings ..... including a WALMART cheer.....lol Next time you are in WALMART and want to see something funny tell a manager you want to hear the WALMART cheer or the so called "squiggly" cheer....he will call employees up just to do it for you
(give me a W...W give me an A...A give me a L...L give me a squiggly (they all wiggle their butts) give me a M...M give me an A...A give me a R...R give me a T...T who's number 1 The customer and so forth ending with them yelling out there store number lol lol lol)

sep, Thursday, 29 August 2002 17:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

I used to work for Wal-Mart. Want to know why the people greeters act the way they do? Because it's a position for employees who can't do anything else. Usually, that means disabled people, but occasionally they put insane or mentally disabled people there.

Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo (cindigo), Thursday, 29 August 2002 20:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

three months pass...
As a careful observer I have always thought k-mart was the worst, and Wal-Mart and Target were about even. But I wasn't very observant untill I started working for SuperTarget. Now I plainly see where Target has Wal-Mart beat and Wal-Mart has Target beat on a few things too. Target has great brand names, great items to choose from, and great weekly sales prices. I find Target employees to generaly be friendly and knowledgable. Wal-Mart does have cheaper items overall, ones that aren't on sale at Target, but it is not a staggering difference. Wal-Marts also have better selection of fishing and pets and gardening supplies, but other than that, Target is better.

Topher', Friday, 6 December 2002 18:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Fred Meyer

donut bitch (donut), Friday, 6 December 2002 22:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

I shop at Saks. What are all of these stores everyone is talking about?

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Friday, 6 December 2002 23:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

Winonawannabe!

James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 7 December 2002 05:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

Georgia really does own this thread.

James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 7 December 2002 05:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Winonawannabe!"
Haha James I don't have enough money to shoplift!

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Saturday, 7 December 2002 05:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...

K-Mart and Sears are merging

k3rry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow. Combined, it'll be teh shittiest department store known to man.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 17:57 (nineteen years ago) link

What will their babies look like?

k3rry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Brilliant documentary series (and no, not -ahem- entirely a rhetorical question): Is Walmart Good for America?

Zimmer026 (nader), Thursday, 18 November 2004 03:22 (nineteen years ago) link


Yeeks. Wal-Mart is scaring me.

k3rry (dymaxia), Monday, 22 November 2004 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link

six years pass...

there is an old Sears in Brooklyn. I may go there tom'w morning for a doorbuster New Balance sale.

your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 April 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

I remember these Sears that were these huge castle like buildings. Like this one in Memphis or this one in Minneapolis.

Pleasant Plains, Friday, 29 April 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

At Sears, Eddie Lampert's Warring Divisions Model Adds to the Troubles

Once you get to this sentence:

"Lampert runs Sears like a hedge fund portfolio, with dozens of autonomous businesses competing for his attention and money. An outspoken advocate of free-market economics and fan of the novelist Ayn Rand, he created the model because he expected the invisible hand of the market to drive better results. If the company’s leaders were told to act selfishly, he argued, they would run their divisions in a rational manner, boosting overall performance.

the rest of the story writes itself.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 13 July 2013 21:27 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Sears brings you...Elegant Moments.

Like this.

Not *exactly* SFW.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 August 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

http://www.businessinsider.com/target-shuts-down-canada-operations-2015-1

Target closing all 133 Canadian stores after being in the market for only two years.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 15 January 2015 15:55 (nine years ago) link

yeah that's been a colossal shitshow. just for local economic health reasons i hope they figure their shit out (same with best buy, god)

goole, Thursday, 15 January 2015 16:10 (nine years ago) link

It sucks that 17,000 people are about to be laid off.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 15 January 2015 16:29 (nine years ago) link

What happened? There can't be that much of a cultural difference.

Though to add to this:

While the move is not a surprise, it sends a stark reminder to American retailers who think that brands between the U.S. and Canada face no real consumer borders. Burger King, which recently acquired the Canadian brand Tim Hortons, could face its own obstacles trying to get American consumers to embrace the Canadian coffee shop chain.

I will be the first in line at the Little Rock Tim Hortons.

pplains, Thursday, 15 January 2015 16:40 (nine years ago) link

What happened?

They opened all 130 stores (at once instead of rolling it out slowly) and had no real plan for distribution to those 130 stores. Shelves were often empty and they were almost always sold out of everything that was on sale/advertised in their flyers. We have one very close and I have really liked it (at minimum it is SO MUCH cleaner and visually appealing than the gross old Zellers it replaced), so I am bummed it's going, but it definitely had stocking problems that they could not seem to sort out.

franny glasshole (franny glass), Thursday, 15 January 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link

Also just realising this means the only Starbucks nearby is probably closing too and omg NO

wow, my 23-year-old self just read my comments in this thread and killed herself

franny glasshole (franny glass), Thursday, 15 January 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link

this article from last year goes into what went wrong : http://gawker.com/why-was-target-canada-such-a-disaster-1579554288

I remember going into a Target several months after it opened and there were still many empty shelves. I think most people just stopped going to Target, because you often didn't find what you needed. Things may have improved, but Target was still stuck with a bad reputation.

silverfish, Thursday, 15 January 2015 18:17 (nine years ago) link

They opened all 130 stores (at once instead of rolling it out slowly)

well that's insane.

pplains, Thursday, 15 January 2015 18:57 (nine years ago) link

Sounds like they... missed their target

, Thursday, 15 January 2015 19:09 (nine years ago) link

There's still one south of here in Columbus, but I don't know how it stays open. The Tupelo location bailed out years ago.

the magnetic pope has sparked (WilliamC), Saturday, 17 January 2015 04:31 (nine years ago) link

i was stunned the other day to find the one in kona still living.

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 17 January 2015 04:45 (nine years ago) link

There used to be a Kmart in Manhattan it was weird

― walid foster dulles (man alive), Friday, January 16, 2015 11:23 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Did the one at Astor place close

, Saturday, 17 January 2015 05:04 (nine years ago) link

i remember when that target at atlantic center in brooklyn first opened i went there ironically because lol target in downtown brooklyn. but then i kept going back because there was actually some stuff there that i needed at decent prices.

(i can't break my target habit. i know they're driving mom & pops out of business and their labor policies are terrible but mmmm cheap chinese yoga pants.)

mitt fleekwood (get bent), Saturday, 17 January 2015 07:01 (nine years ago) link

Target is the easiest place for me to stop and grab things after work because it's literally one block over (I can see it from my desk all day).

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 17 January 2015 07:03 (nine years ago) link

Got a Target across a 4-lane road from my apt (for however much longer)

Should probably grab a new TV there soon, my 16yo Sanyo won't last much longer.

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 17 January 2015 07:39 (nine years ago) link

Xp oh I guess that Astor place one is still open after all. For some reason thought it was closed. Rarely go to that area anymore.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Saturday, 17 January 2015 13:07 (nine years ago) link

there's also one at penn station

iatee, Saturday, 17 January 2015 13:14 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

The liquidation sale started this morning ("UP TO 30% OF EVERYTHING!). I went around 10am, about 2 hours after it opened, and it was the busiest I have ever seen it by FAR. Like, probably 2 twice the number of cars in the parking lot than the week before Christmas. Every checkout was open and there was a long, long line which I've never seen before.

franny glasshole (franny glass), Thursday, 5 February 2015 16:50 (nine years ago) link

Haha, weird.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 5 February 2015 16:52 (nine years ago) link

you know what they say, always be closing

goole, Thursday, 5 February 2015 16:54 (nine years ago) link

Kmart's going downhill, but do you all have the same proliferation of dollar stores popping up everywhere? I swear, I've seen half a dozen Dollar General stores open up in my town within the last year. And that's adding to the existing Dollar General stores, Family Dollars, Dollar Trees, etc. already all over the place.

It's nice to see these things get smaller, but they're still no alternative to local biz.

pplains, Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:01 (nine years ago) link

From the Family Dollar wiki:

As of August 2011 there were 7,000 stores in 44 states. According to their website, in 2005 Family Dollar opened 500 new stores, 350 more in 2006, and an additional 300 in 2007. According to the Company's 2013 Corporate Profile, in 2010 Family Dollar opened 200 new stores, 300 more in 2011, 475 in 2012, and an additional 500 in 2013.

Dollar General:

On January 3, 2011, Dollar General announced plans to add 625 new stores in the 35 states where the chain already has stores plus Connecticut, Nevada and New Hampshire, and to hire 6,000 employees. The company also planned to improve or move 550 existing stores.

Dollar Tree:

In 2010, the corporation opened its 4,000th chain store and acquired 86 Canadian Dollar Giant stores which are based in Vancouver, British Columbia. The stores are operated in British Columbia, Ontario, Alberta, and Saskatchewan. These are the first retail locations outside of the United States operated by Dollar Tree.

In 2011, Dollar Tree achieved total sales of $6.63 billion, opened 278 new stores, and completed a 400,000 square-foot expansion of its distribution center in Savannah, Georgia.

In 2012, Dollar Tree opened another 345 new stores and exceeded $7 billion in sales, with an end-of-the-year market cap at $9.13 billion.

In January 2015, Dollar Tree announced plans to divest 300 stores in order to appease US regulators scrutinizing its proposed takeover of Family Dollar stores.[6]

SOooooo much expansion going on. Been in one of these like once. I go into Five Below all the time, and those seem to be cropping up everywhere, but just checked and they're mostly mid-Atlantic regional.

how's life, Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:42 (nine years ago) link

Five Below is mostly toys, it should be noted. Last time I went into a Dollar Something it was like a low-grade CVS without the pharmacy.

how's life, Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link

I'll sometimes stop at Dollar General before moving on to the real grocery store. They do sell stuff cheap.

Though Sunny was a little perturbed when I bought some Coca-Cola 12-packs a couple of months ago that still had World Cup logos on it.

pplains, Thursday, 5 February 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link

The "dollar store" used to be those places that sold wigs and weird make-up, lots of hair products. I used to get hair doo dads and scented oils at them, but a lot of people would not set foot in them. I'd say that in the past fifteen or so years they've shed their "reputation" - the stores are very clean and you can get cleaners and paper towels and dog food. I'd wager you could cook a decent meal from dollar store food if you tried.

SCOTTISH PEOPLE ONLY (I M Losted), Thursday, 5 February 2015 18:52 (nine years ago) link

Oh by the way, Staples and Office Depot are merging. Maybe some day there will be one giant store for everything - one brand. Today's shopping mall will become one giant store owned by one company.

SCOTTISH PEOPLE ONLY (I M Losted), Thursday, 5 February 2015 18:56 (nine years ago) link

I had thought it was Office Depot merging with Office Max, rather than Staples.

Aimless, Thursday, 5 February 2015 18:57 (nine years ago) link

As the guy who handles purchasing in my dept, the last two days have been a pain in the ass. Had tax exempt status "disappear" from the merger.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 February 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link

Dollar Tree and Family Dollar are merging btw, Dollar General rebuffed

, Thursday, 5 February 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link

I enjoyed this headline:

Family Dollar Stores Sticks With Dollar Tree, Refuses Dollar General's $9.1 Billion Offer

pplains, Thursday, 5 February 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link

Imagine being paid with 9.1 billion items from a Dollar Tree

, Thursday, 5 February 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link

I've seen one Five Below around here, but it's the first one I've ever seen and I had no idea what it was. Toys, huh?

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 5 February 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link

Really cold toys.

Mouth-Watering Broiled Chops! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 5 February 2015 20:11 (nine years ago) link


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