Mac OS X: Classic or Dud?

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How can I have not posted on this thread.

Classic (or rather not classic at all, no space for classic on my machine)

I love how fast and stable it is, clotion a lot of RAM is required to make OSX really speed. Its brought new life to my ageing computer. What I really loveis bein able to do all of my ansys work on my own computer, rather than having to use one of the NT boxes at the university.

RAMis the key to making it sing. I'd see 512Mb as a practical minimum, all of those cool things need a lot of memory, and memory is so cheap right now. I have 640Mb on a 500Mhz G3 and I have no gripes about speed.

Ed (dali), Friday, 21 March 2003 08:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Got a G4 1.42 Ghz dual processor (at work) and I have the hard drive partitioned for OSX and OS9. And I have a lot of RAM. No complaints so far.
At home, I have a shitty old Mac.

Bruce Urquhart (Bruce Urquhart), Friday, 21 March 2003 09:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like it well enough. I also use Safari instead of IE.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 21 March 2003 09:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

three years pass...
is there some anticipation for Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)in here?

In springtime I think I'll buy a mac laptop with it preinstalled. Anyone heard about running it side by side with other os like vista or ubuntu, like some sort of virtual machine? I think a setup like that would be good for me.

SÆbästìên (immortalist), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I am anticipatory.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

heyyy is that Sebastien Chikara?

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

thats right ! here's my current entrance music , interpreted by a lipsyncher http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5faLh14q1AU

SÆbästìên (immortalist), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm so frustrated with their bullshit jungle cat os and constant $$ upgrades, i'm actually considering switching to linux omg.

bell labs (bell_labs), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

download cracked version > burn dvd > yay!

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link

i've been playing with the developer releases a bit. "Spaces" is pretty cool.

pabs (Pablo A), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

mac users seem to talk about software compatibility problems often enough, i guess it might get annoying not being able to use every little programs that I come across on the net . like it's viable but bit of a hassle, like being allergic to peanuts or something, (like).

SÆbästìên (immortalist), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I switched *FROM* Linux and trust me, you DO NOT WANT.

UART variations (ex machina), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Sebastien, there's very little that I've been unable to do other than play shitty games.

UART variations (ex machina), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/60/204150932_e2de94c3a7.jpg?v=0

When is Leopard coming out WWDC?

UART variations (ex machina), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I am greatly anticipating Leopard

IF THEY FUCKING FIX IPHOTO SO IT DOESN'T TAKE 10 SECONDS TO DUPLICATE A PHOTO.

Hopefully Leopard will also improve porn speed. Because, as everyone knows, porn leads new technology like no other.

don weiner (don weiner), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Sebastien, there's very little that I've been unable to do other than play shitty games.

hey that's good to know from u. I was imagining some (possibly hypotetic) shitty scenario like no mac version of soulseek in its early days. some softwares,for some time , get to be important in how I use my time. by the way is Mac Virtual Machine difficult to use? that might be why I hear some complaints here and there.

SÆbästìên (immortalist), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

don - try iview media pro. much better.

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i love iview but my trial expired and i can't justify dropping $200 on a license. i am cheap.

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Hopefully Leopard will also improve porn speed. Because, as everyone knows, porn leads new technology like no other.

So a vote for them to include fullscreen in quicktime, then?

UART variations (ex machina), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

by the way is Mac Virtual Machine difficult to use?

parallels?

UART variations (ex machina), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

james - http://www.serialz.to/serialbox.html

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

how many large jungle cats are left?

Lion, Puma, Mountain Lion,

will they move to medium cats?

Ocelot, Bobcat, Lynx?

Tabby? Maine Coon?

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

kitty

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I wonder when they're going to make OS 11.

UART variations (ex machina), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Of course System 7 lasted a long long long time

UART variations (ex machina), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

you mean OS XI ?

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

The official name of the (leopard) OS is: Mac OS X 10.5.0

I think

UART variations (ex machina), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

awesome. thx. the serial box version i had was old and had no iview support.

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm just annoyed that in order to get my little $70 ipod shuffle to work i need to track down a cracked version of OS, get an external dvd drive (lol computer oldddd) and download itunes 7 (which i hear is crap anyways). it should just work!

bell labs (bell_labs), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

you mean OS XI ?

OS iXi

pabs (Pablo A), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

they should make osX longcat next!

bell labs (bell_labs), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

re parallels? yes. if it's a piece of cake to use it then I'll definately go for a mac with 4 gig of ram, like, when I see something nice like xgl I just want to try it immediately, without major os surgerey on my main computer. I just want the butter , the money of the butter and date the lady who did the butter!

SÆbästìên (immortalist), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

parallels is a doddle to use and solves my must use Outlook for work problem a treat.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

what's great about iview? That thing ran like a dog. Took 10 hours to load 9000 pics from my drive. Scrolling was slow and not robust. Did dupes fast though.

don weiner (don weiner), Friday, 2 February 2007 02:24 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

Beware the new Macsweeper spammers -- Very funny (for a new Mac user anyway) posts by someone calling themselves Apple Angel on this forum:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6159509

Rib Dinner, Thursday, 14 February 2008 11:27 (sixteen years ago) link

To answer that we would have to be stupid enough to visit your website and install your software. I will not do that for the following reasons:

1. I will never try your product because I do not trust you, your company or your software.

2. I have no confidence in the quality, usefulness and security of your product and only a fool would willingly install it. Happily, I am not a fool.

3. I utterly distrust you, your company and your software because of the way you promote and spread it.

4. I have no confidence in your software because of the many nefarious, malicious and downright evil snake-oil pedlars that you share server space and distribution tactics with. A man may be judged by the company he keeps.

5. Nobody should trust a company that uses fake online scans (mere SWF animations) to panic and deceive visitors to their site into downloading a product of questionable quality, usefulness and security.

6. Your website uses unethical (and potentially illegal) tactics to force a visitor into activating a download, even when they expressly do not wish to accept a download. No legitimate business does this, therefore we know you and your company are a bunch of crooks and your software can never be trusted.

7. Your pop-up that forces the download reads "This file has been digitally signed and independently certified as 100% free of viruses, adware and spyware". That is either an utterly meaningless statement or a plain lie.

8. If you are happy to force the download of this product (which you claim to be benign), we have to assume you are also happy to force the download of Mac viruses and Trojans once you have worked out how to write them.

9. Your software is, at best incompetent and unnecessary (better products exist to do the job) and at worst extremely dangerous, especially considering what future updates might do. http://blog.iantivirus.com/2008/01/deeper-look-on-macsweeper.html

10. I would not want MacSweeper even if you gave it away for free.
What's that? Oh, you are giving it away free... 1000 licences, you say?

Well you know what...

I still don't want it.

But anyway, what is the point of polite discourse when you are, to my mind, criminals posing as a pair of hapless students...?

It is my considered opinion that you are practicing your art, refining your techniques and testing the water for a more serious attack on the mac community using similar tactics and much more dangerous software. Let all Mac users beware.

Rib Dinner, Thursday, 14 February 2008 11:31 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Press apple-option while clicking on a selected icon in list view and you can scroll the window:

http://www.screencast.com/users/libcrypt/folders/Jing/media/e92f1fea-de41-48dd-8c01-dbfa6288b394

libcrypt, Thursday, 17 April 2008 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Probably matters more to me because I refuse to give up the most ergo mouse in the universe, which just happens not to have a scroll wheel.

libcrypt, Thursday, 17 April 2008 21:14 (sixteen years ago) link

That also works in Internet Explorer for the Mac, one of the nice touches I wish the other browsers had used.

stet, Thursday, 17 April 2008 21:46 (sixteen years ago) link

you still use IE on the Mac? I didn't even know it would still run on the latest versions of OSX (it's still ie5, right?)

akm, Thursday, 17 April 2008 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Our work computers are still on Mac OS 9, and they *still* haven't rolled out Mozilla to them all yet.

stet, Thursday, 17 April 2008 21:54 (sixteen years ago) link

holy cow

akm, Thursday, 17 April 2008 21:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Like, we're talking almost a decade here.

fields of salmon, Thursday, 17 April 2008 22:48 (sixteen years ago) link

yeh, you haven't truly hated Apple until you've stared at OS 9 for eight years

stet, Thursday, 17 April 2008 23:17 (sixteen years ago) link

I miss it.

Alba, Thursday, 17 April 2008 23:25 (sixteen years ago) link

really? only our shower could replace it with something worse.

stet, Thursday, 17 April 2008 23:30 (sixteen years ago) link

OK, I was not being entirely serious.

What stet doesn't mention is that he's getting new exciting Windows XP in a few weeks time, so the Mozilla-less OS 9 machines will never experience the joy of tabbed browsing.

Alba, Thursday, 17 April 2008 23:31 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm still in denial

stet, Thursday, 17 April 2008 23:38 (sixteen years ago) link

www.system7today.com

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 17 April 2008 23:57 (sixteen years ago) link

XP is still a good OS, being phased out for purely commercial reasons. I'd definitely prefer that to OS 9.

Still, OSX (and Leopard especially) converted me after being a hardcore PC guy for over 15 years. I've always hated the company, their image and advertising (I still haven't bought an iPod) but recent changes and a growing frustration with Windows finally got me to turn to the dark side.

Nhex, Friday, 18 April 2008 00:28 (sixteen years ago) link

lol linux

DG, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link

but lol Linux can look like almost literally anything, both the box and the interface.

http://www.dvc.uk.com/acatalog/hp4300.jpg

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/fluxion23/Screenshot1_sm.jpghttp://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/fluxion23/Screenshot2_sm.jpg

kenan, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 00:10 (fifteen years ago) link

mei, replace this file:

/System/Library/CoreServices/DefaultDesktop.jpg

then repair permissions with disk utility

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 00:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Which looks like it was designed by a well meaning 14 year old star trek nut with no self control.

Yup. Got outta hand, didn't they? But it is customizable, more all the time. Possibly the worse it looks, the harder people try to make it easy to customize.

kenan, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 00:11 (fifteen years ago) link

This is much more like it should look to match the hardware!

http://www.guidebookgallery.org/pics/gui/desktop/empty/macosx102.png

mei, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 08:05 (fifteen years ago) link

okay so I have to backup 350GB of data from my hard drive to our xraid; I'm guessing making a disc image is the best way to deal with this issue. How long is that going to take? I started doing it and it was taking forever so I cancelled; but we were also having some connection problems to the raid (maybe these were my fault for trying to shove this much data onto it during work hours, who knows).

akm, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Best to use something like RsyncX to create the image, it will make recovery a whole heap easier.

Ed, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link

mei otm. 10.3 was the last I liked, and even it wasn't that great.

stet, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah it seems that making that image the raid is overloading our server; you'd think it would be able to handle something like that. I'm inclined to just copy directories over one by one; it's going to take all day but at least they'll be in smaller chunks.

akm, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link

purple itunes? gay!

DG, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Your search - "snow lolpard" - did not match any documents.

Suggestions:
* Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
* Try different keywords.
* Try more general keywords.

Did you mean to search for: "snow leopard"

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 24 August 2009 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Bet you didn't know that OS X keeps a separate list of all files you have downloaded. Now you do.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 14 July 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

is there a way to set the finder's 'find…' to search by name (or any other preference setting), so that it sticks as the default?

j., Friday, 14 February 2014 21:38 (ten years ago) link

four years pass...

I was doing some cleanup and maintenance on my mother's mid-2010 iMac and discovered that it won't run Mojave, but it will run operating systems up through High Sierra. It's currently running 10.8 Mountain Lion and the machine has 4GB of RAM. What's the best/speediest OS for this machine?

ILX Moderator: It's Like a Pressure Wash for Your Insides (WmC), Saturday, 9 February 2019 16:48 (five years ago) link

Aside from security concerns, it’s generally best to leave the OS alone because of the tendency for older applications to not work with updates. That said, if you’re willing to deal with whatever application headaches, you’ll probably be OK with whatever latest OS the machine can handle.

Philip Nunez, Saturday, 9 February 2019 17:08 (five years ago) link

All she needs is a browser, Mail and a jigsaw puzzle app as far as that goes. I was just wondering if any of the range from 10.8 to 10.13 are markedly better than the others.

ILX Moderator: It's Like a Pressure Wash for Your Insides (WmC), Saturday, 9 February 2019 17:27 (five years ago) link

i would stay away from apfs if at all possible. if she's having issues with safari you may be able to just switch her to firefox without a full os upgrade.

dynamicinterface, Saturday, 9 February 2019 17:46 (five years ago) link

As features go, there’s not a very compelling case to upgrade even from snow leopard for most people — it’s really the security fixes that are a major reason to consider it.
I guess that and integration with iPhone, airdrop etc...

Philip Nunez, Saturday, 9 February 2019 18:17 (five years ago) link

I have a 2015 Macbook Pro running High Sierra, and this is my first Mac, ever, that has given me regular, serious problems.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 February 2019 19:09 (five years ago) link

it was preinstalled on my 2017 air when i bought it this past summer. i thought it was quite nice! no noticeable problems. a real step up from the snow leopard or whatever i was running before. my understanding was that i had lucked into running the most refined and tweaked version of a series of recent major os versions that had left people disappointed, and that others also thought it had fixed a lot of those issues for them.

aren't the main issues machine-specific bugginess, and machine capacity?

i don't know about the former for the 2010 imacs, but on the latter it seems (from the internet) that people with machines from that era have generally been pleased with performance boosts from high sierra, even ones who had previously been running sierra. but a caveat is that when their machines run HDDs instead of SSDs (which wm's mom's does, i think?), the boost is modest at best because of heavy disk use.

most of the testimonials i have read also seem to be upgrading from twice as much ram as wm's mom's machine. for a rough comparison, my mb air running the newest mojave has 8 gb ram and is currently using ~5 with a handful of routine things open, 3.46 for apps and 1.35 wired (can't be compressed or paged out to disk). apple says 2 is enough for high sierra. for low-impact use on a machine like wm's mom's i would expect a fair bit of drive paging to make that work?

i usually check in on macintouch for old discussions of things like this, if that helps.

j., Saturday, 9 February 2019 19:37 (five years ago) link

Speed isn't hugely affected by the OS updates, it's the third-party apps breaking, as said above. If that doesn't matter just go with the latest one it can handle for the security patches, and the changes in App Store/iTunes/whatever often being required for your iOS devices.

Nhex, Saturday, 9 February 2019 19:38 (five years ago) link

"Tabbed browsing" is my new favorite thing.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 23 September 2002 18:37 (sixteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

:o

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 10 February 2019 15:46 (five years ago) link

aw 17 years together as Trabs

21st savagery fox (m bison), Sunday, 10 February 2019 17:37 (five years ago) link

I remember talking to an early Safari engineer who was passionately opposed to adding tab support...

fajita seas, Sunday, 10 February 2019 21:38 (five years ago) link


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