Taking sides: UK vs US

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"We won the war, you know."

We helped. But we didn't compromise on our constant hot water supply.

An Australian, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 12:37 (twenty years ago) link

You see, this wild concept of "most of the hot water was used up" does not compute with me. I've always lived with a constant supply.

But it's not a foreign concept to Americans, either, even if you've lived much of your life in a two-story suburban house with a boiler the size of a Dalek.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 12:37 (twenty years ago) link

(Actually, larger than Dalek...)

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 12:38 (twenty years ago) link

i've found that the weather in london is way nicer than it is in michigan. far more mild. and i'd rather take a couple months of drizzle compared to driving off the roads for months on end during the various blizzards.

we have a neat electric shower thingy so we always have hot water. actually, this bathroom is the largest ever.

however, american breakfasts are fantastic. they just don't 'get' waffles here. same with tex-mex food

colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 12:38 (twenty years ago) link

Haha, it has just occurred to me that my six most recent houseguests (3 of whom are Australian and 1 American) have witnessed my SERIOUS mould problem in the bathroom (no need for pets, I have billions of little friends living around my bath and many more on the ceiling where I can't reach with bleach) and experienced my dodgy combi boiler which should provide constant hot water, but which has a habit of going icy cold when you're covered in shampoo and shower gel. I do have a mixer tap in the kitchen though.

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 12:42 (twenty years ago) link

"Could it have been the 11 other vomit-covered australians in your room?"

When it comes to drinking to the point of throwing up, I really don't think we have anything to teach the British. I'll see your Australians in Willesden and raise you 3,000 brawling, lobster-red pommie yobs in Bondi!

An Australian, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 12:43 (twenty years ago) link

Is that before or after we win the rugby?

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 12:45 (twenty years ago) link

DAMN, I'VE JINXED US, WE WILL BE GUBBED BY WALES NOW, SOB!

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 12:45 (twenty years ago) link

The junction and everything between it and Old Oak Common and North Pole is a thing of Wonder.

i hate it because there are currently roadworks (LIKE EVERYWHERE BLOODY ELSE ON MY REGULAR LONDON ROUTES) obscuring the 266 bus stop. and there should be an Old Oak station for North Acton to interchange with thus giving me access to the Silverlink without having to get that fecking bus (they always insist on changing drivers just 2 stops after i get on).

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 12:46 (twenty years ago) link

Knowing Willesden as you seem to, i am sure that it is fair to assume that the rest of the UK is exactly the same as your experience! jeez!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 12:46 (twenty years ago) link

"Is that before or after we win the rugby?"

Unfortunately, I don't think we Aussies have it in us to win this year. But England's been a bit disappointing too. I've a funny feeling the French might come through.

An Australian, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 12:47 (twenty years ago) link

"Knowing Willesden as you seem to, i am sure that it is fair to assume that the rest of the UK is exactly the same as your experience! jeez!"

What! You're telling me Willeden isn't a microcosm of your great British nation?!

I lived in Oxford as a kid. I've travelled around the country a bit. The pissy shower thing is a cultural constant.

An Australian, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 12:50 (twenty years ago) link

Are Americans really loud? I've never noticed it before.

Mandee (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 12:53 (twenty years ago) link

you've been very unlucky with your showers then An Australian. i've never had one that bad.

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 12:54 (twenty years ago) link

that said, given our apparent love for water conservation perhaps it's a good thing.

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 12:55 (twenty years ago) link

Me either!

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Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 12:55 (twenty years ago) link

Are Americans really loud? I've never noticed it before.

You need to live somewhere touristic like... Oxford... where it is unnaturally misty and rainy and damp (and beautiful, romantic, mysterious etc)

Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 12:56 (twenty years ago) link

Well, I won't let my egregiously poor experience with British plumbing diminish my admiration for your fine country. Once global warming really gets going, I'll gladly come back and live somewhere that's not Willesden. Clapham maybe.

An Australian, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 12:59 (twenty years ago) link

*sigh*

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:00 (twenty years ago) link

the other end of the Antipodean Arc :)

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:01 (twenty years ago) link

Once global warming really gets going, I'll gladly come back and live somewhere that's not Willesden. Clapham maybe.

If we let you!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:03 (twenty years ago) link

Clapham is Australian? I didn't know that. I have this funny feeling that a population exchange is under way. There seem to be more Brits in the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney than Australians.

An Australian, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:05 (twenty years ago) link

(imagines pinkpanther with placard and megaphone outside Clapham Housing Association)

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:06 (twenty years ago) link

"If we let you!"

You can't stop me. I hold a UK passport. Mwa-ha-ha!

An Australian, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:07 (twenty years ago) link

you think that can stop us? silly boy!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:07 (twenty years ago) link

Clapham is the southern end of a crescent (including Wandsworth, Earl's Court, Shepherds Bush, Queen's Park and Harlesden) that reaches back to Willesden in which you will find the vast majority of Australians residing in London it seems.

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:09 (twenty years ago) link

I had a nice drink in a pub called The Sun in Clapham once. Followed by tapas at a Spanish bar nearby, the name of which escapes me.

An Australian, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:10 (twenty years ago) link

*sniggers*

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:11 (twenty years ago) link

*looks down, but no, his fly is done up*

OK, so what's the joke?

An Australian, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:12 (twenty years ago) link

What is this Spanish Bar of which you speak?

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:22 (twenty years ago) link

We totally whooped their ass in the Revolutionary War.

Spinktor the Unmerciful (mawill5), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:30 (twenty years ago) link

What is this "Revolutionary War" of which you speak?

Her Royal Highness Queen Kate (kate), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:31 (twenty years ago) link

That time with the guns. Some had knives.

Spinktor the Unmerciful (mawill5), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:32 (twenty years ago) link

The American War Of Independance? A mere footnote.

Her Royal Highness Queen Kate (kate), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:32 (twenty years ago) link

Today I hate everyone, neither country wins.

Nicolars (Nicole), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:33 (twenty years ago) link

Or the Revolutionary War. Ka-pow!

Spinktor the Unmerciful (mawill5), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:41 (twenty years ago) link

"What is this Spanish Bar of which you speak?"

It is/was on the high street, not far from a pizzeria whose name I think was Marco's. I'm thinking this bar's called Rachel's, but that's hardly a Spanish name so perhaps I've got it wrong.

I also remember a jolly few pints at the Bread & Roses after a vigorous swim at the pool down the road.

An Australian, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:46 (twenty years ago) link

America sucks because there are no cats in America and the streets are filled with cheese.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:49 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, well...i just found out from my mother that one of my cats was ripped apart by a mountain lion or something. Tore its head clean off. Great news to start a day off with.

Spinktor the Unmerciful (mawill5), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:51 (twenty years ago) link

Americans: talk too loud, invade countries, don't let you smoke in restaurants, don't know much about other cultures, have crap coffee

"Talk too loud": That's because we have to shout over all the progress that's happening herein. Continually. (Or we could all have mothers like mine, who constantly prod us to "speak up" or "speak louder".)

"Invade countries": No we don't. We liberate them. Difference! :)

"Don't let you smoke in restaurants": Dependent on the location, this one is. My city just recently enacted new ordinances that would make restaurants have to meet stringent guidelines in order to have a "smoking" section. But by default, most restaurants locally are "smoke-free". Thank God! (Though there is some kind of insanity behind banning smoking in bars, IMHO.)

"Don't know much about other cultures": I don't know about that. We're all so many different cultures and peoples that we're all too keenly aware of differing cultures. If you were to run into me on the street, you'd probably think I wasn't American. But *surprise*, I am!

"Have crap coffee": I've had excellent coffee. I've had bad coffee. This happens. Good coffee can be found herein, again IMHO. But I end up relying on soft drinks for most of my caffeine intake. Robert D. Kaplan put it best when he said that coffee has a destabilizing effect on one's stomach in a hot climate. This is true. I live in a climate that could accurately be described as "hot" 75% of the year or so. Yay for sodas!

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:51 (twenty years ago) link

Sorry to hear that, Spinktor the Unmerciful. Where in America did your cat live?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:53 (twenty years ago) link

Greenville, SC. Parents moved there about 2 years ago or so.

Spinktor the Unmerciful (mawill5), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:54 (twenty years ago) link

:-( I lived there for a year.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:54 (twenty years ago) link

Is it me, or didn't the British WIN the American War Of Independance?

It's just that some of them were called 'Americans' afterwards.

mei (mei), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:58 (twenty years ago) link

Regardless, we have stars on our flag now.

Spinktor the Unmerciful (mawill5), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 14:00 (twenty years ago) link

The Canadians stayed loyal to Us, after all!

Her Royal Highness Queen Kate (kate), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 14:01 (twenty years ago) link

Canadians and their war-mongering.

Spinktor the Unmerciful (mawill5), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 14:02 (twenty years ago) link

We mean, what about the War of 1812?

Her Royal Highness Queen Kate (kate), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 14:04 (twenty years ago) link

You didnt fare so well agains the Mongolians though.

Spinktor the Unmerciful (mawill5), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 14:10 (twenty years ago) link

We have craps that are bigger than the UK.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 14:12 (twenty years ago) link

Ah yes - that got me wondering about the sexual equivalent of the sliding tackle and the professional foul.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 10 November 2003 01:26 (twenty years ago) link

Momus is like my stereotype of a college student except he has done the reading for 7 or 8 more degrees.

Nonsense, I've hardly read anything. I'm like a college student, only 20 years older and with a more stupid hairstyle.

http://www.imomus.com/dailyphoto101103.html

Momus (Momus), Monday, 10 November 2003 01:38 (twenty years ago) link

You should have seen some of the mature students on my course. Really, you'd have fitted in great.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 10 November 2003 01:40 (twenty years ago) link

They were a pain in the arse in seminars, though.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 10 November 2003 01:41 (twenty years ago) link

Momus is the Lenny & Squiggy of ILx

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 10 November 2003 01:44 (twenty years ago) link

http://lennysquiggy.tvheaven.com/Sounds/perverts.wav

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 10 November 2003 01:45 (twenty years ago) link

If we can isolate this thread (because I haven't read any of oops' other misdeeds) I am still greatly confused as to why people are ripping oops apart. His comment was a pretty general and much heard one in terms of terrorism and just immigration and customs enforcement. I have to ask ridiculous, kind of easily misinterpretted to be offensive questions all the time to foreign nationals, even Swedes and Canadians.

Carey (Carey), Monday, 10 November 2003 02:07 (twenty years ago) link

fucking swedes trying to bring in their filthy meatballs.

Carey (Carey), Monday, 10 November 2003 02:08 (twenty years ago) link

Swedish Islamic Death Commandos II: When Laplanders Attack!

Coming to a theatre near you.

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Monday, 10 November 2003 02:14 (twenty years ago) link

They were right to give Gaz the 3rd degree though - those damn sydneysiders, you can't trust them with ANYTHING ;)

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 10 November 2003 02:27 (twenty years ago) link

whaaa? i was just about to agree with your comments upthread Trayce, but now? *hmmph*

i thought the thread was pretty light-hearted up to that point, and oops jibe was just a jibe...and then *kapow*, er, what?

gaz (gaz), Monday, 10 November 2003 02:36 (twenty years ago) link

btw - a pedantic point, but had it been introduced earlier maybe all of the shouting wouldn't have happened: the WTC terrorists did not go through Customs as the flights they hijacked were all DOMESTIC flights.

hstencil, Monday, 10 November 2003 02:57 (twenty years ago) link

I mean like DUH.

hstencil, Monday, 10 November 2003 02:58 (twenty years ago) link

but to answer the question, I have not been to the UK but I think I'd like it a lot (aside from that not rinsing the dishes thing).

hstencil, Monday, 10 November 2003 02:59 (twenty years ago) link

Sorry gaz, you know I'sa just joshin ;)

Good point stence - also, gaz did (quietly) point out his customs experience was in 1994, well before any of this current terrorist hoo-ha.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 10 November 2003 03:13 (twenty years ago) link

yeah I know, just felt like being a pedant.

And for bitchiness' sake, I'll point out that I've had my stuff rudely searched by Spanish airport security upon leaving two times now, but hey I still love Spain and would go back in a minute if I could. One rude person in a country /= all people in a country

hstencil, Monday, 10 November 2003 03:16 (twenty years ago) link

and that wasn't directed at anyone in particular, just saying.

hstencil, Monday, 10 November 2003 03:22 (twenty years ago) link

The customs officers in the UK were hilariously uninterested in me. I told them I had food to declare (well, it was vegemite and bikkies) and they laughed and said "this isnt Australia you know - just go through!".

I wasn't sure wether to be relieved or insulted! =)

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 10 November 2003 03:23 (twenty years ago) link

I mean in terms of 'ugly alliances to criticise the us for' israel's pretty far down the list (behind saudi arabia, egypt, russia, the uk)

What the fuck planet are you on?

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 10 November 2003 10:42 (twenty years ago) link

Trayce, it wasn't really the original comment that caused the fight, more Oops's persistent inability to acknowledge that what he posted might have some dubious connotations. Admittedly, the fact that I think the guy is an utter prick did colour my reactions somewhat.

Ricardo (RickyT), Monday, 10 November 2003 11:13 (twenty years ago) link

seven years pass...

I don't understand what's so goddammed funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzj1OF7d9m4

 (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

I mean, they're the ones who drink tea from gas cans.

 (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

five years pass...
one year passes...

OK, fine. Limeys win.

https://i.imgur.com/8fMzRjL.jpg

pplains, Saturday, 20 January 2018 04:06 (six years ago) link


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