man I totally forgot abt that ROIR cassette, a friend of mine used to have that.
I saw them once in like 1991? I-Beam in San Francisco. they were really really good!
― sleeve, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 23:53 (ten years ago) link
Yes, "Lest We Forget" is the one. It's very good. There was a lot of great releases on that label. The Modern Lovers (didn't remember that was on ROIR actually - seems like it came out a lot later than the others) and Television for sure, but also the Dickies live one and Flipper's Blow'n Chunks. It seems like all those cassettes followed the same pattern where they started a bit ho-hum then you get into them and they build and build until it dawns on you that you areistening to an amazing album.
― everything, Thursday, 16 June 2011 04:10 (ten years ago) link
I think you are right, Precise Modern Lovers Order was on Rounder, not ROIR. Sorry for the confusion.
― James & Bobby Quantify (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 June 2011 04:13 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, what is the story behind these tracks? I can't really find much online about the circumstances of what happened here. Apparently their label wanted to release the single comp and wouldn't fund another album till it came out. But somewhere else I read that there was drug issues like Scott says.
They wanted to try something different by recording a series of ambitious singles instead of another album. Personal relationships were rough. Lots of drugs were being used - especially acid. Shelley was near a breakdown. The singles didn't do very well. Sessions progressed for what would have been at least one more single (one of the sides of what would have been the fourth single was eventually released on the NME's "C81" cassette, produced with Rough Trade. The song was "I Look Alone," and it's been anthologized multiple times since then.)
Shelley and Diggle worked on demos and tracks for the next album / singles separately. Shelley's demos ending up sounding complete to him and were worked into what became his debut solo album. A few of the Diggle songs recorded with Garvey and Maher for the Buzzcocks' 4th album leaked out later, under the Flag Of Convenience name. These were "Back Of The Mind" and "Drift Away." After the Buzzcocks split, everyone but Shelley continued as Flag Of Convenience for a stellar three-track EP, which did pretty well and was even released in America. A 4-song FOC EP followed (with Diggle and Maher, but without Garvey) and it too was released in America, but an album supposedly in the works was never issued (and maybe never recorded.)
Shelley blames a lot of the odd production on the "Parts" singles on heavy drug usage, specifically referencing LSD use during the mixing stage of "Strange Thing." Diggle's stuff sounds less messy than Shelley's because, I reckon, he was much more sober!
― crustaceanrebel, Thursday, 16 June 2011 04:14 (ten years ago) link
Whereas "I look alone" was fine, productionwise, and may well have put them backin the charts, I reckon.
― Mark G, Thursday, 16 June 2011 08:24 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, Mark, I've wondered about that. A pretty solid and catchy tune, nicely produced. Ironically, though, it was supposedly not *exactly* finished! Perhaps to its benefit. As Shelley seemed fine during the promotion of the "Homosapien" album, I chalk these final Buzzcocks tunes and their odd production up to a combination of stress and the sort of fumbling period an artist can have after breaking with a long-standing producer (Martin Rushent) in favor of someone different. Bear in mind that Rushent sang back-ups and even co-wrote a couple of tunes with Shelley (as Alan Dial) - he was pretty integral to the Buzzcocks' sound prior to this, and I like to think the "Parts" stuff with Hannett as a sort of transition to something that simply never occurred. I still like all 7 seven songs from this period just fine.
― crustaceanrebel, Thursday, 16 June 2011 09:38 (ten years ago) link
I wonder if most Buzzcocks fans know the last 3 singles
They are on remastered versions of Singles Going Steady these days. They were bonus tracks on A Different Kind Of Tension (which was OOP in the UK for years, dunno if it still is) as well.
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 16 June 2011 09:43 (ten years ago) link
I saw a 'deluxe' edition in Fopp the other day (full-price), it still has those.
― Mark G, Thursday, 16 June 2011 09:49 (ten years ago) link
i know it's not considered one of their best but "are everything" has been my favorite buzzcox since I got the single as part of somebody's reject-pile that also included such circa '81-'82 gems as "hit & run" by the bar-kays and nick straker's "little bit o jazz" so yeah nostalgia factor but it's also a great great bittersweet song
― backlash stan straw man fan (m coleman), Thursday, 16 June 2011 11:27 (ten years ago) link
We're coming on the airwavesComing on the airwavesComing on the airwaves dream
― Listicle Traces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 7 February 2013 04:58 (eight years ago) link
Enjoyed this take: https://www.headheritage.co.uk/unsung/review/1651/
― What Do I Blecch? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 10 December 2018 22:28 (two years ago) link
― What Do I Blecch? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 10 December 2018 22:38 (two years ago) link
Figured they'd be over it and rote when I saw them in LA ~2006 ... ha.
― Uhura Mazda (lukas), Monday, 10 December 2018 22:44 (two years ago) link
Never knew about Heaven 17 version of “Are Everything” until just now.
― Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 August 2021 15:34 (three months ago) link
― Spiral Scratchiti (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 October 2021 23:45 (one month ago) link
Author Louie Shelley hosts the ‘Coffee and Cake with Pete Shelley’ event where you can hear recordings of Pete speaking about the creation of some of Buzzcocks’ biggest hits as well as enjoying live music and refreshments, which are included in the price of the ticket. pic.twitter.com/DoP7Cc7h0I— The Pete Shelley Memorial Campaign (@PeteStatue) October 5, 2021
― curmudgeon, Monday, 11 October 2021 04:20 (one month ago) link
You're makin' out with school kidsWinos and heads of stateYou've even made it with the ladyWho puts the little plastic RobbinsOn the Christmas cakes
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 11 October 2021 05:00 (one month ago) link