Takoma's one-offs and obscurities

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tut taylor good too.

scott seward, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

oh yeah, rick ruskin, not great. tut taylor! i don't know if i have anything by him on takoma..

one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

also not super into the Randy Brook album on devi/takoma.
Janet Smith's "The Unicorn" is a cool record too. Mellow, fairly traditional folk.

one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

post-fahey, the roulettes album is pretty bad and i like all kinds of bad power pop records.

scott seward, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

I like that T-Bone Burnette album--"Boomerang"!

My cousin told me that back in '79 in Austin you could buy that Fab T-birds lp (their debut, which got picked up by Chrysalis) at Conan's Pizza parlours.

Mucho! Macho! Honcho!: Turn Off The Dark (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

I'd like to hear Rita Weill record.

one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link

the Chris Darrow record on Takoma is not good, it pains me to say.

one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

Was wondering about that one, I *love* Kaleidoscope but have never investigated any of those guys subsequent stuff.

cloaca flocka flame (NickB), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

Xp to Scott: I have that Phil Host Bent City record and it's pretty good. Gets filed near my Basho records. I bought it off my friend Kate when she was moving, and I think later she regretted selling it.

I know Yankee transcendoodle has been talked about here before. I kind of like that record, but maybe it's because I like the source material. The bass is really heavy on it. The copy I bought was sealed ($1), and I wonder if that's not common, as if it was a record no one cared for or bought and so ended up stored unopened in the boxes they came in from the record pressing plant?

bamcquern, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

Yost! Yost! Autocorrect.

bamcquern, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

I've got that Rabindra (Danks) LP. It's weird.

Vendo Caramelos A Veces Sin Dinero (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

man, i know almost none of these! someone make me a comp of takoma's greatest mixes, plzzz?

tylerw, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

NickB -- there are other, really good Chris Darrow records... check the s/t on United Artists and "Artist-Proof" on Fantasy; I am a big supporter of those albums. I like them better than most Kaleidoscope stuff.

one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 22:03 (twelve years ago) link

Craig Leon's Nommos is fantastic.

nerve_pylon, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

I've only heard the self titled Chris Darrow record and I love it. I've been looking for the Janet Smith and Rita Weill records but ebay and musicstack turns up nothing. This thread will surely keep me on ebay for awhile.

JacobSanders, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

Ian, I will definitely check those - thanks for the tip!

cloaca flocka flame (NickB), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 22:18 (twelve years ago) link

Did Fahey at some point sell Takoma or release his reins?

JacobSanders, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 22:31 (twelve years ago) link

sold to Chrysalis at some point...

one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link

ok so is that tony thomas thing actually what it purports to be -- recording of an old-timer fiddler -- or is it actually what i think it is, recordings by the younger, african-african fiddler whose name happens to be tony thomas (and who is a prolific reviewer on amazon these days)? knowing fahey i wouldn't be surprised if he's up to more of his tricks.

btw when did fahey's involvement w/ takoma end?

also what about maria muldaur stuff? i have never investigated that.

by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 23:19 (twelve years ago) link

Pretty sure the Tony Thomas record is not a ruse; seems too elaborate. The record is good. Info inside indicates it's just what it says it is.

one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 23:48 (twelve years ago) link

wiki re: Takoma sale:

In 1979, Fahey sold Takoma to Chrysalis Records, owned by Terry Ellis and Chris Wright, which had artists such as Blondie, Pat Benatar, and Huey Lewis.[3] Jon Monday continued as General Manager of the label for Chrysalis until 1982 when Chrysalis sold the Takoma catalog. During the Chrysalis years, Takoma released albums by The Fabulous Thunderbirds, Maria Muldaur, Canned Heat, Mike Bloomfield, and T-Bone Burnett. The catalog was purchased in 1995 by Fantasy Records,[1] which in 2004 was taken over by the Concord Music Group. Fantasy has a handful of the Takoma recordings on the market as CDs as of this writing in 2007.

sleeve, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 23:58 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A92JQlOQEEE

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 16 June 2011 02:07 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.discogs.com/buy/Vinyl/Swamp-Dogg-Im-Not-Selling-Out-Im-Buying-In/446775-2993708?ev=bp_titl

^^ don't think i've ever seen this one.

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 16 June 2011 02:16 (twelve years ago) link

I love Jerry Williams or Little Jerry Williams. I have most of his Swamp Dog records. My favorite is 'Cuffed, Collared & Tagged.' I've never seen 'I'm Not Selling I'm Buying In' on vinyl though. I have it on cd. Westside records rereleased most of his albums on cd in the early 00's.

JacobSanders, Thursday, 16 June 2011 02:29 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I'm a swamp dogg fan! It surprises me that I never knew he had a record on takoma. my faves of his are cuffed, collared..., rat on, and gag a maggot. but i like them all for at least a few killer tracks... so far anyway. steered clear of disco-era material. just not ready yet.

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 16 June 2011 02:33 (twelve years ago) link

His cover of Sam Stone sounds so natural that I think it surpasses Prine's original.

JacobSanders, Thursday, 16 June 2011 04:06 (twelve years ago) link

I have a dumb question: Is it pronounced Home Gas or like H+Omegas?

Concierto Para Bongo (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 16 June 2011 05:05 (twelve years ago) link

I love the Floating House Band LP.

banjoboy, Thursday, 16 June 2011 05:31 (twelve years ago) link

uh, i pronounce is Home Gas but who knows?

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:02 (twelve years ago) link

I would think more people would like Lawrence Hammond's 'Coyotes Dream'? He was the singer in the Mad River, which their last record hinted at the sound he would have. It's pure country gold! Their are only three very short reviews on his RYM page, all in italian.

JacobSanders, Thursday, 16 June 2011 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

I think I've seen that record but never listened to it? I was never a huge Mad River fan tbh.

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 16 June 2011 18:32 (twelve years ago) link

after you posted abt it i went to look in the country & folk bins at the store, but it must have sold.

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 16 June 2011 18:32 (twelve years ago) link

instead of ppl moaning abt too many polls or what kind of polls or who should be polled or not or whatnot they cld be reading and getting edumacated by this great thread, thank you jacob for starting it

i wish i cld contribute, but you just never really see this stuff in the uk, don't suppose most of it ever got propertly distribbed outside the usa. in fact thinking abt it, ian and scott pl collaborate on a bk abt this shit, you have one britishes buyer and eager reader, here.

Ward Fowler, Friday, 17 June 2011 21:08 (twelve years ago) link

I rarely find Takoma records in my digging around flea markets, thrift stores and estate sales. I keep an eye on ebay and good record stores like Antones in Austin,TX. I did find Lawrence Hammond for very cheap in a crate of sealed records that were all priced for 10 dollars. I'm not sure how good Takoma distribution was in it's day, or how many copies of each record was pressed. I've read online that Leo Kottke was their biggest seller. If only fantasy was released a few of these obscurities......

JacobSanders, Friday, 17 June 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

there are certain takoma records that i see all the time. which is sort of disappointing since there are others i never see. the sentimental songs of the late 19th c. or whatever it's called is good. honestly though the takoma discography is pretty up and down.

need to hear this homegas stuff.

by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 18 June 2011 01:55 (twelve years ago) link

the homegas record is this kind of bluegrass/country blues inflected sad-sack psych-folk album... i love it to bits. "maine" is the best cut imo -- "you know i never really loved a sled dog, til you kissed me on the floor."

one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 18 June 2011 02:20 (twelve years ago) link

looking up takoma stuff on popsike and my past hyperbole is saved for the ages:

John Fahey - Death Chants Break Downs & Military Waltzes (Takoma) Nice early original Takoma pressing. Cover is VG+ with some ring wear/age wear and some edge wear. Nothing too horrible though. Looks nice! Booklet is in great shape. Vinyl is clean VG+. Sounds amazing! That guitar of his will hit you in the head!

scott seward, Saturday, 18 June 2011 02:44 (twelve years ago) link

hahaha. you seem like a good, honest ebay seller.

one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 18 June 2011 02:46 (twelve years ago) link

i made so much fahey money that month. i felt a little guilty. john fahey paid for my german history of house music box set that month too. thanks, john! (traded some fahey to josh at mystery train. always wanted that box set. chuck was the only person i ever knew who had one.)

scott seward, Saturday, 18 June 2011 02:55 (twelve years ago) link

gonna block off at least half an hour this tuesday on my radio show to spotlight some of the lesser known Takoma titles; will also play some fahey and basho and probably even some kottke..

one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 20 June 2011 22:30 (twelve years ago) link

Hey Ian, how can I listen to your show online?

JacobSanders, Monday, 20 June 2011 22:48 (twelve years ago) link

it steams on eastvillageradio.com; it's the academy records show tuesday nights from 10-12. you can listen to it on itunes too under radio->eclectic. past shows are all archived on thee website.

one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 20 June 2011 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks I'll start listening in. My favorite basho is by far 'Song of the Stallion', I like his singing especially when it comes out of nowhere like on A North American Raga.

JacobSanders, Monday, 20 June 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

LOL "even some kottke" :)

sleeve, Monday, 20 June 2011 23:22 (twelve years ago) link

i love leo, don't get me wrong!

one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:05 (twelve years ago) link

Never heard any Kottke past the first album, but that one is just dandy imo.

cloaca flocka flame (NickB), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 08:35 (twelve years ago) link

here's what i ended up playing:


Edward Hazleton Mocking The Train, Mocking The Dogs One-String Blues Takoma Jun 21
Bukka White Old Man Walking Blues Contemporary Guitar Takoma Jun 21
Homegas Maine Homegas Takoma Jun 21
Maddy Prior & June Tabor My Husband's Got No Courage In Him Silly Sisters Takoma Jun 21
Tony Thomas The Wednesday Night Waltz Old Style Texas & Oklahoma Fiddling Takoma Jun 21
Norman Blake Blue Ridge Mountain Blues Directions Takoma Jun 21
Janet Smith Wayfaring Stranger The Unicorn Takoma Jun 21
Floating House Band Song For Martha Lee The Floating House Band Takoma Jun 21
Mike Auldridge Killing Me Softly With His Song Blues & Bluegrass Takoma

one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 04:44 (twelve years ago) link

hey dudes. i saw a (i think) sealed copy of Swamp Dogg's 'buying in' record like 2 weeks ago for like $6. i was skeptical because of the date on it, so downloaded it later. it wasn't very good. if you're at all interested or a completist, lemme know and i can go looking for it again.

jaxon, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 05:22 (twelve years ago) link

picked up bernie krause's 'citadels of mystery' this weekend for a buck in the new age section. not at all what i was expecting. i thought it was gonna be some synth record but it was actually upbeat world jazz with some nice drums. pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYR1Ch5eGKY

jaxon, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 05:28 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I've been listening to Mike Bloomfield's Analine. It's a beautiful low key bluesy record that has impressed me. Has anyone heard his other 3 Takoma records? I just read the poor guy was found dead in his car from a heroin overdose.

JacobSanders, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:23 (twelve years ago) link

i need a copy of fog hat ramble.. i have the other two yost records and love them.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:32 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/clt/3892820791.html

Z S, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 23:01 (ten years ago) link

that's a bit spendy!

interested in this:

IN SEARCH OF BLIND JOE DEATH: THE SAGA OF FAHEY . . ..A Documentary by James Cullingham

von LMO argonaut (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 23:08 (ten years ago) link

tangentially related: http://www.amazon.com/dp/0985302801/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_asp_wTEmF.1DXF9ZB

I know this guy was pretty involved in the 'Your Past...' box set, dunno if it's a retread of some of that or like an expanded Fahey Files kinda thing, sorta curious, but tight on $ right now, so I'm not about to find out.

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 27 June 2013 00:21 (ten years ago) link

I mean like:
"Each record is presented with all its known issues and variations."

sounds too much for even me. 476 pages! and that's just volume 1. ah, who am I kidding, I'll buy it eventually.

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 27 June 2013 00:22 (ten years ago) link

i bought it.

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 27 June 2013 00:24 (ten years ago) link

Taking one for the team. Interested to hear how that is btw.

grandavis, Thursday, 27 June 2013 13:24 (ten years ago) link

Craig Leon's Nommos appears to be about to be properly reissued. I'm delighted by this after just discovering it upthread.

http://www.superiorviaduct.com/products/craig-leon-nommos

neilasimpson, Thursday, 27 June 2013 14:00 (ten years ago) link

fahey book sounds great. too bad it looks like this! come on, design a cover, dudes!
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51xDUHh2siL._SY300_.jpg

tylerw, Thursday, 27 June 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link

also kind of amazing that the list price is $57 and amazon is selling it for $13? guess i should buy it quick.

tylerw, Thursday, 27 June 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, it's ugly. And the supposed inflated price is exactly why I snapped it up when I did! I 'll report back on what it exactly is once it comes...

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 27 June 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link

i ordered it too! BOOK CLUB!

tylerw, Thursday, 27 June 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link

Ordered. Looks great. Can't beat the price, either. Let's meet back here in two weeks and discuss!

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Thursday, 27 June 2013 15:55 (ten years ago) link

for those interested -- my friend who is working on the Homegas reissue has been in touch with all the surviving members, has gotten some awesome rare photos, and is going to continue working towards getting it reissued. This is the same dude who did the F.J. McMahon record so you know it'll be high quality.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Thursday, 27 June 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link

(also just ordered that book, lol saving money.)

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Thursday, 27 June 2013 17:26 (ten years ago) link

Now I will quit bumming out that I lost a bid on a clean copy of that Homegas LP last week (went for over $150). One up now that looks OK - cover's trashed but the vinyl looks fine - already over $50. Can't swing it, not with this ridiculous free jazz list up right now. Err, perhaps I've said too much.

Ian, please keep me posted re: this reissue. Holy grail record for me, one of three or four LPs I'd drop $100 on if I saw it

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Thursday, 27 June 2013 19:00 (ten years ago) link

yeah what's the label?

tylerw, Thursday, 27 June 2013 19:04 (ten years ago) link

circadian press. small one man operation.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Thursday, 27 June 2013 19:09 (ten years ago) link

Welp, my "Fahey handbook" came, it appears to be a combination of truly useless arcanum (a family tree of Fahey's great grandfather?, truly obsessive levels of categorizing of each and every pressing of every single Fonotone issue and reissue) combined with quite interesting-seeming biographical and songwriting details I haven't seen yet scattered throughout. Glad I bought it, but glad i didn't drop 50 bucks on it also. I suppose the maniacal level of detail is useful for collectors and whatnot, but I don't know if this is a book you can exactly 'read' per se

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 29 June 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link

three months pass...

how the hell did the Sir Douglas Quintet's "Best Of" LP come out on this label?? at first I thought it had the wrong inner sleeve. such a non sequitur.

money, chicken and other DNA (sleeve), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 23:48 (ten years ago) link

Prob contract filler after SDQ's Border Wave, also on Takoma (and Takoma-Crysalis), in 1981. Here's my fave track---a Kinks kover, but fits their sound perfectly, which was the orig premise of the deal (Hey Kids! Yall like that skinny tie, skinny organ New Wave sound---here's Border Wave! Of course the original Sir Douglas premise, w "She's About A Mover" etc. was also re Southwestern influences on Brit Invasion)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WcinP-YgyM#t=24

dow, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 15:18 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

I haven't seen any mention of this record which is nice 12 string with xylophone
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8454/7994234850_fa6aa6a34e_z.jpg

JacobSanders, Sunday, 5 January 2014 20:11 (ten years ago) link

three months pass...

test imbed (Fahey live, full show)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlCOQr7o8A4

dow, Sunday, 13 April 2014 21:43 (ten years ago) link

Maybe it'll show a frame if I spell it rite?
test embed!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlCOQr7o8A4

dow, Sunday, 13 April 2014 21:45 (ten years ago) link

fug---one more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlCOQr7o8A4

dow, Sunday, 13 April 2014 21:46 (ten years ago) link

[url] doesn't help either.

dow, Sunday, 13 April 2014 21:47 (ten years ago) link

really loving this!

http://www.popsike.com/pix/20080506/270235271611.jpg

scott seward, Sunday, 13 April 2014 21:59 (ten years ago) link

one side has just two long a cappella songs. trance-inducing.

scott seward, Sunday, 13 April 2014 22:04 (ten years ago) link

dow - to embed you need to delete the s in https

It's Pablum Time with (NickB), Sunday, 13 April 2014 22:13 (ten years ago) link

that J.B. Smith is great.

ian, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 19:55 (ten years ago) link

Similar vibe to Bukka White's "Sky Songs."

ian, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 19:55 (ten years ago) link

five years pass...

Can anyone speak about sq differences between the Rvng, Intl reissue of Craig Leon's Nommos and the Superior Viaduct reissue? I've heard that the Rvng, along with adding Visiting and using entirely different cover art, is a noisy pressing, but I also recall reading a piece in The Wire in which Leon himself disapproved of the Superior Viaduct edition for whatever reason. Providing one is unable to procure an og Takoma pressing, which reissue is preferable?

Also, is it weird that this was reissued by two different labels less than a year apart?

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 18:51 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

I'm so excited to finally have found a copy of Homegas, and the disc itself looks near mint.

Evan, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 19:02 (one year ago) link


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