Batman carries on beginning in ... The Dark Knight

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omg that should be casting industry standard procedure.

jessie monster, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link

"Michael Keaton" and "awesome" are only allowed in the same sentence as "Beetlejuice" sorry.

jessie monster, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link

How soon we forget "Jack Frost."

Oilyrags, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link

How soon thankfully we forget "Jack Frost."

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link

It's all Jungian and shit. Fuckin' Morrison. (I don't think AA is one of his better works, but I'd take minor Morrison over a Loeb 'masterpiece' anyday.)

-- Oilyrags, Tuesday, May 22, 2007 4:26 PM (9 minutes ago)

Ya, I got the Jung undertones, I think it was just too much atmosphere and too little comprehensible story for my tastes. I loved the art, but it was too difficult to follow. I suppose I should go back and read Morrison's annotated script in the back.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link

AA is a bit of a big mess, but it was one of the first things I remember reading with Morrison's name on it - definitely put him on my radar

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 17:35 (sixteen years ago) link

"Michael Keaton" and "awesome" are only allowed in the same sentence as "Beetlejuice" sorry.

Dear Jessie,

You are wrong.

Sincerely,

Mr Mom

nickalicious, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 19:52 (sixteen years ago) link

MR. MOM (1983)

Plot Keywords:
Child Nudity / Self Discovery

jessie monster, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 19:57 (sixteen years ago) link

i actually liked him as batman

latebloomer, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 20:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I actually liked Arkham Asylum.

Abbott, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link

I like it as well! Then again it's one of the few Batman books/stories I actually own/have read, which probably skews my viewpoint on the whole cycle.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 20:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I only have Killing Joke, Year One, and a copy of AA that a friend gave me. Don't feel the need for much else (I can't stand Frank Miller anymore)

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 20:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Wouldn't it be great if they'd someday come up with a Batman/Robin love story, where Katie Holmes would act as Bruce Wayne's beard?

No.

HI DERE, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link

here is how I rank Batman books I own:

Killing Joke > Arkham Asylum > Year One > Long Halloween > Dark Victory

jessie monster, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I only want to see Robin in a Batman movie if they are going to kill him or if he ends up hating Batman for being the psycho he is.

jessie monster, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link

<quote>Wouldn't it be great if they'd someday come up with a Batman/Robin love story, where Katie Holmes would act as Bruce Wayne's beard?

No.

-- HI DERE, Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:19 PM (46 seconds ago) Bookmark Link
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Oh, I could live with it. Williewonkafy the whole Batman concept til its so silver age it hurts and doesn't really affect perception of the Batnolan movies and it'd be fine.

Oilyrags, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 20:22 (sixteen years ago) link

See you in December = when the first teaser trailers are released?

Alba, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link

I only want to see Robin in a Batman movie if they are going to kill him or if he ends up hating Batman for being the psycho he is.

omg jessie u r soooo wrong the iconic Batman is mortal perfection personified wlomgoltf.

Leee, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 21:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Are there actually any truly great Batman graphic novels or miniseries besides the Miller ones and Killing Joke? Because most of the ones I've read have been disappointing in one way or another, and I've never had the money or time to follow the monthly books.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 09:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Batman and Judge Dredd Files is a must to own by any fan of Batman comics or otherwise, 3 stories by different writers and artists.

Ste, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 10:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I've read the first one of those (with Judge Death and Scarecrow), it was pretty good.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 10:40 (sixteen years ago) link

that was Simon Bisley artwork, which was in my opinion simply breathtaking

Ste, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 10:43 (sixteen years ago) link

So to summarize, Tuomas hates Batman.

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 14:18 (sixteen years ago) link

We already knew this, though.

HI DERE, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 14:18 (sixteen years ago) link

You're not my intended audience.

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 14:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Leee I will fight you for I Love Comics ownership.

jessie monster, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 14:25 (sixteen years ago) link

I checked "The Greatest Batman Stories Ever Told" out of the library recently, and despite an inevitable emphasis on one-issue stories, it has a lot of great material in it.

I really dig Matt Wagner's three-parter "Faces" from Legends of the Dark Knight. I think it got reprinted as a tpb. There was another one "Blades" from around the same time with art by Tim Sale and written by James Robinson that was also high quality. Dunno if you can still find that one, though.

Also, the recent "Mad Moon Rising" or whatever it was called thing by Wagner retelling the early Hugo Strange and Mad Monk stories is a lot of fun. Fact is, though, I'm just a Wagner fanboy, so take that as you will.

Oilyrags, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 14:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh yeah! Also the first Grendel/Batman crossover, the one with Hunter Rose. The later one with Grendelprime kinda sucked.

Oilyrags, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 14:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Now that I think of it, when it comes to superheroes I've always preferred bright-coloured cosmic fables to dark and edgy vigilante stuff, so I guess I do hate Batman.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 15:42 (sixteen years ago) link

good now get out

s1ocki, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Bring it if you can, monster jessie.

xpost s1ocki otm.

Leee, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 16:55 (sixteen years ago) link

slocki harsh but fair -- it's like Tuomas is wishing the sky wasn't blue.

Rock Hardy, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 16:57 (sixteen years ago) link

tuomas would probably like the batman story in mike allred's solo tho.

s1ocki, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link

yay Matt Wagner

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:05 (sixteen years ago) link

If you can find them in the back issue bins, Pete Milligan's Batman one-issues are just as awesome as their titles suggest they might be ("The Executioner Wore Stiletto Heels" and "The Hungry Grass!"). Also, the Wagner/Grant run is bestest -- definitely more "funny dark" than "tortured dark."

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:12 (sixteen years ago) link

i dunno guys tuomas is saying it in a really annoying way as usual but i think hes right that this is some bullshit dark re-imagineered david fincher joker instead of classic funny-yet-crazy joker - do yall also like this?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/62/American_McGee_Alice_box.gif/256px-American_McGee_Alice_box.gif

and what, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:13 (sixteen years ago) link

No one likes American McGee.

HI DERE, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:15 (sixteen years ago) link

tuomas would probably like the batman story in mike allred's solo tho.

Also sci-fi closet Morrison? There were really only a couple of good issues though.

I like Year 100 but Tuomas wouldn't.

Jordan, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:15 (sixteen years ago) link

I dunno, I thought the Nolan movie was quite light-hearted in places. It wasn't dark in a "grim 'n gritty" way.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:31 (sixteen years ago) link

classic funny-yet-crazy joker

"classic" is subject to debate, as this thread makes rather obvious. which interpretation a reader/viewer priveleges is entirely up to their own prejudices.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:31 (sixteen years ago) link

I dunno guys we have two photographs and a totally inconsistent narrative spanning nearly a century involving perhaps hundreds of authors, surely we can nail down the probable levels of genuine intent and fitting nuance mr ledger will bring to the role, and what the script will have in it.

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I predict Ledger dances a killer Batusi

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I hope Ledger's Joker tries to out-do Bale's Batman in a contest of BONERS

elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:43 (sixteen years ago) link

definitely psyched about the prince song.

s1ocki, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:48 (sixteen years ago) link

R. Kelly should do the soundtrack.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Perhaps snorggirl should play the Joker.

Oilyrags, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 18:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Snorggirl? Is that some superhero?

Tuomas, Thursday, 24 May 2007 10:12 (sixteen years ago) link

better if it were Snoggirl

Ste, Thursday, 24 May 2007 10:24 (sixteen years ago) link

genuine intent and fitting nuance mr ledger will bring to the role

I predict Ledger dances a killer Batusi

I hope Ledger's Joker tries to out-do Bale's Batman in a contest of BONERS

Can y'all call him Heath otherwise I get a little taken aback whenever I open the thread.

ledge, Thursday, 24 May 2007 10:26 (sixteen years ago) link

i just realized while watching it again this weekend that while its not my favorite batman movie i think mask of the phantasm has by far the best batman characterization of any of them

and what, Thursday, 24 May 2007 14:53 (sixteen years ago) link


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