the juke/bmore/bloghouse frankenstein dance music they play at clubs

i agree that a lot of this music resembles rock in some ways

I'm still thinking that a lot of the complaints that revolve around lack of groove still come down to unimaginative deejaying. Maybe deej had the right idea earlier in the thread and some quick and nasty edits might have some benefit here?

Anyways I'm listening to Fake Blood at the moment, like his bass sounds.

And this is really old news but anyone give a shit about the Machines Don't Care album?

Blue strips aren't solar panels. They are decoration meant to evoke tangled strings on a broken guitar. (???) EMP is hideous, but I don't think that has much to do with its success/failure as urban object/public space. Its intent is to be "fun", and it succeeds on that level, in a ghastly sort of way. That said, they really do need to lose the ribbons.

success is always ghastly contenderizer trust me

this is an interesting thread

who listens to this kind of thing, huh?

That being said, I also know that I need to accept the fact that this stuff isn't coming from the dance music continuum and it shouldn't be judged according to the same criteria.

yeah

especially in terms of the midwestern US, there is no cohesive scene or fundamental set of ideas that drives this sort of music

it's just a bunch of lonely, isolated young people who seem barely aware of each other, let alone any sense of context or history to what they're doing

words like "bloghouse" that have been coined to describe this kind of thing are like the word "hipster" in that the essential meaning of the word is different from region to region - it's not like europe where there's any kind of aesthetic/historic/social continuity to it

it's less a genre than a vast collection of iChat file transfer windows that self-styled tastemakers occasionally try to pass off as a format

the minneapolis people mentioned in the thread are erol alkan acolytes and not really representative of the types of DJs that really push this kind of music, like the ones from chicago

also i mean you can finger big beat for birthing this but as far as i'm concerned the beastie boys have a lot to answer for here

i imagine that shoegaze playlist DJ is involved somewhere

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd120/hipsterrunoff/cover-1.jpg

are people really shortening blog house to 'blouse'?

no

im into the idea of music called blouse - dont think bloghouse is quite the right sound tho

only thing that bugs me about the cudi/crookers joint is the way crookers won't let the vocal lines end naturally and does that really wanky, arhythmic cutup shit with them

this is a classic thread. i like how it balances the tensions of the keepin it positive jocular humor i <3 cricket crew w/ the serious dance musics discussion crew, input from the jackoff sesh regs, the dance nerd posse & an explosive interruption from pipecock

plus,

wow, ban me. that sure would be too bad. how could i ever live? i guess it would be slighly less fun not being able to terrorize you pussies, but i think i'd be able to get over it.

― pipecock, Monday, December 15, 2008 1:18 AM (9 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

in fact i just voted to ban myself. let's do it you fucking pussies, put your money where your mouth is. prove you've got something between your legs you bad motherfuckers. don't let me come in here and do as i please.

― pipecock, Monday, December 15, 2008 1:20 AM (9 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

You didn't quote "unlike how i terrorize your mom's pussy"

keepin it positive jocular humor i <3 cricket crew w/ the serious dance musics discussion crew, input from the jackoff sesh regs, the dance nerd posse

breakdown of who is in each clique, pls

or at least just tell me which one i fall into

keepin it positive jocular humor i <3 cricket crew

max
ice cream
lamp

the serious dance musics discussion crew

vahid
tim f
matt dc
rtc
lex
blueski

(? basically the funky house crew)

input from the jackoff sesh regs

me
rev
deej
surfboard dudes totally (?)

the dance nerd posse

not sure how this is different than the other group? i guess ppl i've never heard of

j@cob
w i l l
siah alan
display name

(?)

poll

Dance nerd reporting in, how do you all feel about the Salem remixes of Gucci Mane?

http://www.thefader.com/2009/10/01/salem-remix-gucci-mane/

Yes, I know its the Fader, I'm sorry OK?

i dunno if he's on this thread (i'm not gonna look) but surely ronan is a dance nerd

or srs dance musics discussion crew

ronan is serious dance musics discussion crew

those remixes of gucci were awful

"why yes, i am a climber-- we should go back to my place and climb into my hot tub while i tell you about it."

― ♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:10 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i'm into these dudes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjBc7o8qPgA

http://thump.vice.com/words/how-diplo-and-the-hollerboard-changed-everything

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2082673896/bloghouse-the-book/description

Man, kind of a trip to read back through this thread

can one donate to an anti-kickstarter to prevent this book from being written

DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25660369_10155952627702008_5003479507287019891_n.jpg

haha oops

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25660369_10155952627702008_5003479507287019891_n.jpg?oh=2d18209751fd927e3b8282e518874027&oe=5B1F79B7

ok not *entirely* the same thing but incredible to me that people are still riding for 2008

ahahahaha

TLG : is that a current night out, or an old flyer ?

looks like the kickstarter already met its goal

wow just realized this is the tenth anniversary of frankendance

oh god it's (half) by meaghan garvey
she's probably not responsible for the absolute worst of what pitchfork's written, but she is the worst in critically questionable self-awareness lacking white-gazey stuff from there that i can attach to a name off the top of my head

xxxp current night out

you can tell its current bc the web address is fb and not mypace

lol

aaron aamnesiaa must have forgotten the last 10 years happened

you can tell its current bc the web address is fb and not mypace
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 8 February 2018 20:27 (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol

i had this exact same thought after i posted actually.
and you know what, if i lived in a town with a scene and was in the mood for going out i would totally go to a night that played that stuff.
i loved it them (as a bystander due to life), and still do.
this mixed in with some electroclash would totally hit my sweet spot.

hood pass revoked

cant believe this formulation is a decade old:

My theory is that 2008 breaks down like this:

1) Too much of what is good and popular is not populist (nu-deep-minimal; space disco/balearic for the most part; upmarket dubstep)
2) Too much of what is good and populist is not popular (UK funky house)
3) Too much of what is popular and populist is not good (blog-house/frankendance; downmarket dubstep)

― Tim F, Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:17 PM (nine years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

extremely curious how Tim thinks the following ten years played out, if it veered away from this concern or back to it or what have you

TLG : yeah yeah, give an old(er) man a nu-electro-distorted-compressed-to-fuck break.

Here's another little time capsule from upthread:

If anything this stuff is probably the North American version of grime. It has a lot of the same weaknesses and will probably have about the same longevity as a genre. I can't really get upset about this stuff because it is going to go away as quickly as it came.

https://soundcloud.com/firemarshalmeaghan/bloghouse-mix-2018

lol this is cheating

extremely curious how Tim thinks the following ten years played out, if it veered away from this concern or back to it or what have you

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 8 February 2018 20:54 (one week ago) Permalink

I don't think the formulation really applies anymore because the whole notion of scene allegiance within dance music has broken down further since 2008. At least as far as I can tell (and note I am now 35 so perhaps am not the best person to ask) less people than ever are really invested in organising themselves into distinct audiences around particular sub-genres. This was already going on of course and really you could say that dance music has simply followed rock music's lead - rock music was already in this state a decade ago.

There will always be exceptions of hardcore faithfuls, of course. But the difference I discern now is that a lot of the long tails from what was about ten years ago have basically converged into a kind of broad, stable disco-house-techno continuum where most people are into bits of everything along that spectrum and all that is really left to judge is the thoughtfulness or charisma with which particular stylistic narratives are executed.

The other big intervening development obviously was EDM, but I think people miss some of the nuances of EDM's impact: it was and is so obviously crass that I feel like it has had the perverse effect of pushing a lot of people who might otherwise be (and historically were) into relatively-crass material like blog-house or etc. towards more tasteful material.

In respect of this frankendance specifically I just don't hear much that really sounds like it now, which is probably a function of the above: I feel like much of the audience for it has basically split three ways between EDM, hip hop and techno, i.e. they've chosen to go with whichever frankenstein bodypart they liked most rather than stick with the whole corpse.