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the title track does remind me of the remix of 'Absolute' a lot so start with Cupid & Psyche 85

blueski, Saturday, 11 June 2011 14:33 (twelve years ago) link

good show -- early 90s vibes strong. much more build-and-release dance than concise pop live. however it was one of the hottest shows i have ever been in and i felt like i was going to die so i spent a portion of it listening from outside

dj spinning underground resistance afterward, nice

teflon dawn (uptown churl), Saturday, 11 June 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

:-D

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 11 June 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link

cupid & psyche 85 has a lot more BIG SCARE QUOTES soul than this

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 11 June 2011 22:44 (twelve years ago) link

"emergency room" i think is the closest it gets to scritti

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 11 June 2011 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

Listening now to Cupid & Psyche 85 and yeah, I can hear it absolutely. It's a lovely record though. Like it a lot and I went to Discogs just now and got a good value vinyl copy coming to me.

kraudive, Saturday, 11 June 2011 23:58 (twelve years ago) link

Oh yeah the Absolute version / remix

kraudive, Saturday, 11 June 2011 23:59 (twelve years ago) link

Agreed re: "Emergency Room" being the Scrittiest... The super-playful production on "Hypnotize" reminds me a lot of moments on Channel Pressure. Cupid & Psyche 85 is SUCH a great record.

Clarke B., Sunday, 12 June 2011 00:41 (twelve years ago) link

Also re: vocals - surely I can hear the guy from Autre Ne Veut on a couple of these tunes, right?

kraudive, Sunday, 12 June 2011 00:48 (twelve years ago) link

iirc yep

hipsters gonna hip (seandalai), Sunday, 12 June 2011 00:49 (twelve years ago) link

My girlfriend and I went record shopping today, and she put in some serious time dumpster-diving in the dollar bin... She turned up Riptide by Robert Palmer, and I have to say, "Joey Rogers" also owes a lot to "I Didn't Mean to Turn You On"--an amazing song. I feel like everything '80s I've been listening to since I got Channel Pressure I'm hearing through its prismatic and dizzying references.

Clarke B., Sunday, 12 June 2011 03:04 (twelve years ago) link

My bit about the live gig from the other week:
http://thequietus.com/articles/06413-ford-lopitan-live-review

Bus to Yoker (dog latin), Monday, 13 June 2011 13:50 (twelve years ago) link

Ive a feeling all the scritti politti comparisons stem from the wire review. I dont really hear it myself

straightola, Monday, 13 June 2011 14:00 (twelve years ago) link

for me it was "the singing really reminds me of someone" and when someone suggested Gartside it was a bit of a kick m/s moment.

Bus to Yoker (dog latin), Monday, 13 June 2011 14:06 (twelve years ago) link

I definitely hear in Emergency Room, but not too much in the rest. Haven't read the Wire review.

This record is fucking ace btw.

...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 13 June 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link

Ive a feeling all the scritti politti comparisons stem from the wire review

just seemed pretty obvious from the title track imo

blueski, Monday, 13 June 2011 14:50 (twelve years ago) link

Otm

...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 13 June 2011 14:51 (twelve years ago) link

Have you guys heard the slowed-down "echo jam" version of the Scritti song on the Games "Heaven Can Wait" mixtape?

Clarke B., Monday, 13 June 2011 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

Dog Latin, thought you were overly positive about that gig, I was really bummed out by it. it just felt that neither of them got into the groove at all and the minute the crowd began feeling it, then they stopped and started again.

and after the minimum time they could play for, they legged it....

been trying to understand why this was so different from the gig at the Ether festival, and I can only guess that the layout of the Shackleton means everyone stays in the pub area and only fills the venue as the band come on, which means the crowd are not warmed up and the no one can gauge the crowd till the band come on.

I liked the gig but found myself apologizing to friends I had brought along for a hit and miss 30 min set.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Monday, 13 June 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

This sounds unbearably bright to me as well, I associate that strain of production with particularly hamfisted frankendance BUT I assume Lopatin knows what he's doing here. But to me it just sounds fucking horrible and flattens out any textural interest that might be there.

Matt DC, Monday, 13 June 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

Hamildan, yes I agree it wasn't exactly the most enthralling thing I'd ever seen and I think I mentioned it was waaaay too short, plus a bit arms-across-chest. The subheading on that article makes it out to be more positive than I felt. Their set at primavera was kind of similar and I was surprised at the lack of snare.

Bus to Yoker (dog latin), Monday, 13 June 2011 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

Channel Pressure : brightness :: Psychocandy : surface noise

Clarke B., Monday, 13 June 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

'The Voices', especially the chorus, is killing me. It sounds like an M83 track with a different singer. So much going on, such a perfect build of tiny details and a lush vocal loop.

...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 13 June 2011 22:09 (twelve years ago) link

the cupid and psyche connection... both records are extremely EXTROVERTED synth pop records with tons of gorgeous sounds whizzing by. intricate design. channel pressure is extremely 1985... the rise of fairlights/digital sampling mixing in with synthpop. i'm also reminded of mid-late80s 12" pop "dub" mixes where horn stabs and noises dart in and out.. just the whole gimmicky "this sampler thing is fun, let's throw sounds all over the place" approach but done with care and precision.

blank, Monday, 13 June 2011 23:47 (twelve years ago) link

and it's weird how that approach kind of converges with the whole stuttering/"nu-glitch" vibe that seems to be going on (com truise, onra, james blake, dilla copyists, etc.). damn, i might be reaching here.

blank, Monday, 13 June 2011 23:49 (twelve years ago) link

Clarke B. thanks for the heads up on Heaven Can Wait. I got a hold of Spend the Night With Games (which is excellent), glad to see there's more.

blank, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 00:02 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i agree with you blank but at the same time i feel like those are the least unique aspects of scritti politti, there's not a lot of 80s pop your description doesn't match

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 00:49 (twelve years ago) link

right, that's why i pointed to 12" remixes and such. that seemingly haphazard but conscientious approach to throwing sounds around which i think is absent from most/all 80s revival stuff. i guess i'm just trying to get this back to the "wrong side of the eighties" thing that was mentioned earlier.

blank, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 02:12 (twelve years ago) link

I still don't have Spend the Night with Games, but you should definitely get the That We Can Play EP--really solid top to bottom. Heaven Can Wait is literally just slowed down jams with some echo and synth added here and there, but many of the choices are really inspired (and I never knew how amazing Sandra was!). From a music theory 101 perspective, I think some of the perceived kinship between Channel Pressure and Cupid & Psyche 85 might also have to do with the predominance of major keys on both records, which speaks to a complete lack of "dour" on both records as well. And I like blank's point about the 12" extended dub remix feel to some of these Channel Pressure tracks. This record is really incredible.

Clarke B., Tuesday, 14 June 2011 23:38 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah spend the night is just a dj mix. 80s boogie, slowed down michael franks, a track from maxinquaye, sweet stuff.

blank, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 00:49 (twelve years ago) link

that we can play is kind of ehhh, IMO. They really stepped things up with the LP. Not all that different, just better production and songs.

blank, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 00:51 (twelve years ago) link

moonship is right w/r/t Channel
Pressure sounding like a non-specific 80s album. However, It evokes a lot of thoughts of stylistic shifts through the 80s, for me. Like, where do the early80s end and the late80s begin lol?

blank, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 03:28 (twelve years ago) link

Got this on Friday and have been playing non stop since..

Its definitely a nod to the teen film soundtracks of the 80s, with the detuned synths mirroring a VHS losing its tracking during the film titles.

Been trying to place the narrative that was talked up in the hype for this album and I feel that the cover image & teaser video is more of a mood board for the album, rather than a concept album proper.

There's more lyrics/actual songs than I expected and it feels more assured than the games we play ep, this seems more a statement of intent, whist earlier releases were Flopatin just seeing what worked.

In another universe John Hughes is sound-tracking his films to this and twenty years later we're on an internet message board talking about a new synth duo who have released a song called 'Oh Yeah'.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Sunday, 19 June 2011 13:24 (twelve years ago) link

break inside & too much midi are two tracks of the year imo

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wpYdRQy1u94/TBlJPY4gZmI/AAAAAAAAAgk/ESz3AUPOgNs/s1600/rinspeed-yello-talbo-01.jpg

what wld the ford&lopatinmobile be like?

ogmor, Sunday, 19 June 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

have a gold star

ogmor, Sunday, 19 June 2011 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

"too much midi" is pretty incredible after that bridge when the other part of the song kicks in. gotta <3 those synth stabs

didn't realize this was related to adult swim in any way but after the video for "world of regret" i guess it makes sense

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Monday, 20 June 2011 14:51 (twelve years ago) link

yeah the terius/prince bit is a massive treat

CALL ME MR CLUTCH

thanks to spectrist i can now picture this w/ great lucidity

ogmor, Monday, 20 June 2011 14:57 (twelve years ago) link

Its definitely a nod to the teen film soundtracks of the 80s, with the detuned synths mirroring a VHS losing its tracking during the film titles.

Seemingly every producer has been doing detuned synths for the past couple of years. I fucking hate them by now.

Matt DC, Monday, 20 June 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

i'm hoping the new neon indian album will be better than this tho i don't expect it to be quite as intricate.

blueski, Monday, 20 June 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

loved like half of this but was suspicious abt how i could really like something made by the same ppl who made the other half. pretty curious to listen again though

flopson, Monday, 20 June 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

I think people's initial hesitancy with this record despite their attraction to it, combined with the frequently echoed sentiment of wanting to return to it, bodes really well for its longevity. A lot of my favorite records I struggled with initially, at least in some small way.

Clarke B., Monday, 20 June 2011 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

Love this...I think having the instrumental disk is ubersavvy, will flip between the two and extend the listening lifespan somewhat.

Neil O'Jism (Craigo Boingo), Monday, 20 June 2011 23:25 (twelve years ago) link

instrumental disc? what is this? well, it sounds obvious but yeah - not with the vinyl. Bastards.

kraudive, Monday, 20 June 2011 23:45 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know about neon Indian. I only heard the track that basically just samples a rundgren song in it's entirety and adds bad flaming lips style vocals. Does it really have much to do with this?

so confused (blank), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:08 (twelve years ago) link

I kind of think this album does drag after Joey Rogers, apart from surrender and world of regret.

so confused (blank), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:10 (twelve years ago) link

so after 8 of 12 only 2 are worth hearing?

Does anybody have an opinion on the Infinity Window record? Someone just passed me a copy - not listened yet (record player bust)

kraudive, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:15 (twelve years ago) link

The first one? Awesome drone stuff, I recommend it

Is Joey Rodgers not in the middle of the album? Not counting 1st and last tracks (I'm weird)

so confused (blank), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:23 (twelve years ago) link

people hating on the last half of this disc are somehow discounting the awesomeness of "break inside". it might be the most weeknd-style indie r&b jam on the album but it's still pretty sick

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:44 (twelve years ago) link

is anyone else who likes this having a hard time getting into the com truise record? to me it feels so one-dimensional and wallpapery in comparison

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:49 (twelve years ago) link


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