Lindstrom & Prins Thomas are the shit

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awesome, thank you! excited too!

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Monday, 13 February 2006 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Some dude on the internet writes in a Peel Sessions review: "... "Mighty Girl," which I believe turned up on "Out Of Reach" as "November" (I don't have my LP collection handy, so please forgive my uncertainty)."

JoB (JoB), Monday, 13 February 2006 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but you can grab the full length on the iTunes music store. It's been up there for a while...

Pharmaceutical Executive, Monday, 13 February 2006 23:17 (eighteen years ago) link

That some dude is right, JoB. Haven't got that lp myself, but found the mp3 on slsk. It's turned into a too busy late-era Can track, I'd say after one listen. The gorgeous piano is there, but not so upfront. The guitar is too fussy (not fuzzy) and loses much of its edge, compared to the Peel Sessions version. (ysi doesn't seem to work at the moment. maybe later)

willem -- (willem), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:36 (eighteen years ago) link

the remix of magnet rules, especially the instrumental.

simon, here's the track your after.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link

'feel pm' might need some dirty mick jagger vocals on top of it.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 04:11 (eighteen years ago) link

clearly i would ruin this, but i might do a mix!

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 04:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks for the repost Stir - appreciate that.

simon.thisisnotanexit, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 12:21 (eighteen years ago) link

maybe there are more who'll like to hear "November" by Can, as mentioned upthread

willem -- (willem), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 14:21 (eighteen years ago) link

okay, i can clear up the confusion a little bit...

straight from forced exposure:

L&PT album is released domestically (US) on 3/7/06

something less threatening (heywood), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 02:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Major Swellings, if you're still in the house, I salute you.

I hope Feedelity continues the relationship with ClickGroove (or Beatport or one of the high-bitrate stores) despite going on iTunes so impoverished laptop jocks like myself can continue to support. The 128K AAC files from iTunes sound pretty rough on a sound system.

jeffery (jeffery), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 04:56 (eighteen years ago) link

omg mighty girl

jergins (jergins), Friday, 17 February 2006 08:37 (eighteen years ago) link

can sounds very much like fleetwood mac if the boys were allowed to take completely control. although, i know not much about all the bands of that era and prior to recognize common denominators to sound.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Friday, 17 February 2006 08:54 (eighteen years ago) link

i shouldn't just say the boys, but maybe everyone but 'ol Stevie.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Friday, 17 February 2006 09:07 (eighteen years ago) link

L&PT's remix of Brennan Green's "little ease" on Chinatown Records is fucking outstanding. out now. "mighty girl" next week, plus a remix of Alexander Robotnik on Creme...

something less threatening (heywood), Thursday, 23 February 2006 22:20 (eighteen years ago) link

ooo, L&PT + Creme sounds like a good match

Dominique (dleone), Friday, 24 February 2006 00:22 (eighteen years ago) link

(xpost) What's the Robotnick remix? Is it "Dark Side Of The Spoon" from the (awesome) Rare Robotnicks Vol. 2 ? Hope so, coz that's a gorgeous track I'm sure L&PT would do justice to.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Friday, 24 February 2006 05:07 (eighteen years ago) link

I believe it is Dark Side of the Spoon - cannae wait to hear L&PT's remix of it!

simon.thisisnotanexit, Friday, 24 February 2006 11:00 (eighteen years ago) link

ALEXANDER ROBOTNICK
DARK SIDE*LINDSTROM/BANGKOK IM (CREME) 12
More advanced electro-disko pressure from Mr Robotnick aided and abetted by some fantastic remix action from current hot duo Lindstrom & Prins Thomas as well as Bangkok Impact. In its original form "Dark Side Of The Spoon" is vintage Robotnick disco with a pumping housey edge. Lindstrom & Prins Thomas' mix sports guitar riffs straight outta Black Science Orchestra's "New Jersey Deep" with a strutting disco b-line that simply KILLS. Bangkok Impact's mix is just as infectious and adventurous and features his own impressive analogue synth arsenal in action.(CR1222)

something less threatening (heywood), Friday, 24 February 2006 16:25 (eighteen years ago) link

L&PT's remix of Brennan Green's "little ease" on Chinatown Records is fucking outstanding. out now.

Bought this today and it sure is.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Friday, 24 February 2006 19:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I know this thread is all about the shock of the new, but I was listening to Prima Norsk 3 again yesterday and thinking that it really is an astonishing compilation, I probably should have put it in my top 10 last year.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 24 February 2006 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I got a sampler 12 from it, but not the whole thing, and like you kind of forgot about it but everytime I play "Truger" by Kohib, like last night, I remember how good it is.

Did any of you get "Another Station" yet?

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 24 February 2006 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link

i feel spaceships crashing is great. i feel very depressed now.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Saturday, 25 February 2006 05:22 (eighteen years ago) link

:(

Dominique (dleone), Saturday, 25 February 2006 05:26 (eighteen years ago) link

but it would be nice to go out and bypass the usual euphoria and have a whole night of these club winding down and you're left with nuthin but rubber legs and ugly lighting evoking tunes. :)

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Saturday, 25 February 2006 05:39 (eighteen years ago) link

"I got a sampler 12 from it, but not the whole thing, and like you kind of forgot about it but everytime I play "Truger" by Kohib, like last night, I remember how good it is."

Yes! That track is amazing, and so is Olav Brekke & Sideshow Jogge's "Gul Boss". The non-L&PT-related stuffreally holds its own.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 25 February 2006 06:10 (eighteen years ago) link

one of my picks from that comp is also "gul boss". it makes me laugh plus it has breakbeats and it samples hall and oates. it's a great track to play around with in the mix too...very versatile.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Sunday, 26 February 2006 01:18 (eighteen years ago) link

SF folks - both "mighty girl" and the Robotnik remix are in stock at Amoeba. we got a bunch of the Robotnik, but we got shorted on Mighty Girl and only have ONE left. come n git it!!

something less threatening (heywood), Sunday, 26 February 2006 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link

i probably should come get that. can't you save it for me?

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Monday, 27 February 2006 00:58 (eighteen years ago) link

consider it done, susan. held at the front registers under your name.

something less threatening (heywood), Monday, 27 February 2006 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

thx! i was half joking. but i'll pick it up tonite!

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Monday, 27 February 2006 01:01 (eighteen years ago) link

amoeba - biggest lindstrom section on the planet?

stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 27 February 2006 02:35 (eighteen years ago) link

california hippies love space-disco

geeta (geeta), Monday, 27 February 2006 03:25 (eighteen years ago) link

jd: easily. :D

something less threatening (heywood), Monday, 27 February 2006 03:53 (eighteen years ago) link

This stuff is all very nice and pretty, but like say all those pastiche 60s garage bands, isn't this just a revival of a revival of a revival.... I mean not only is this cosmic sound just a rework of 70s disco, I don't how many time similar sounds have been reworked by house already over the years.. for example black science orchestra, nuphonic, faze action, idjut boys. And that stuff wasn't exactly an astonishing new vanguard at the time. Is this all dance music has left to offer - endless retro recombiantions, or is it just that it's all music for nostalgic people who aren't old enough to remember the 90s but don't really expect anything new? Or trainspotters who only get excited about music that refers to other music so they can play name the tribute?

shiny star, Monday, 27 February 2006 04:36 (eighteen years ago) link

"Is this all dance music has left to offer"

iElectro-house bobbins 2006
iMinimal house bobbins 2006
iricardo villalobos

for starters

lf (lfam), Monday, 27 February 2006 05:33 (eighteen years ago) link

there's more to criticism than pointing out the faults of other critics

lf (lfam), Monday, 27 February 2006 05:38 (eighteen years ago) link

But isn't electro house just fusing elements of electropop, italo disco, ebm, rock , rave, electro-clash (itself a rehash) etc with a house beat? And, especially in that rocky house meets 80s electropop vein, hasn't it already become overground, commercial and boring? The new villalobos stuff is great stuff, but it's not dance music.

shiny stat, Monday, 27 February 2006 06:37 (eighteen years ago) link

i believe this vein of music (disco tradition) taps into apollonian impulses in equal measure as into dionysian impulses - disco isn't about tearing it down ("tear down da whole place" - dillinja), it's about building it up (raise the roof, balloons and streamers and hands in the air at the loft, the gallery and the paradise garage, etc)

we are talking about simplifying outlines, building new forms out of old that are ever more pared-down, stripped back, and functional, opening up vast spaces (remember, in ancient art emptiness and blankness - the bottomless bass chasms between bongos and handclaps in dub-disco, the vacuous krautrock grooves of lindstrom + gang - signified the presence of the divine and the sublime) while retaining constructions that are upright and supportive. like a vase, or a column.

discus

vahid (vahid), Monday, 27 February 2006 06:38 (eighteen years ago) link

electrohouse is different - it's essentially pop. you clearly don't "get" pop, since you fall back on tired "overground, commercial" = "boring" constructions. at it's best, electropop and rave were overground + commercial - and all the more exciting for it.

vahid (vahid), Monday, 27 February 2006 06:40 (eighteen years ago) link

i love shiny stat's fake email address though - 'disillusioned @ rave dot net"!

geeta (geeta), Monday, 27 February 2006 06:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes vahid you are right about the disco tradition, but as futurism and innovation (though not experimentation for its own sake) is what I demand, the disco tradition is just as likely to stick to tradition (boring return to live instruments or old 90s sounds etc) as to throw down something new and exciting like say the best of Relief records. I don't think music has to be stripped back or minimal to be new. And I don't really get what's actually new about exciting about this cosmic disco revival. It doesn't sound much different to say El Chocolates records from about ten years ago.

Re the pop thing, I'd probably rather listen to the neptunes or sugababes or hard-fi, or something that's unashamedly pop 40 than some sub-recreation of 80s pop by Richard X or whatever. In the case of the neptunes it's probably more new sounding than an lot of dance music these days.Electro seemed a breath of fresh air after domination by funky house, but now it's just another boring mainstream sound.

shiny star, Monday, 27 February 2006 07:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd probably rather listen to the neptunes or sugababes or hard-fi, or something that's unashamedly pop 40 than some sub-recreation of 80s pop by Richard X

this makes no sense. richard x produced a lot of the sugababes' stuff, incl. their biggest pop hits!

geeta (geeta), Monday, 27 February 2006 07:14 (eighteen years ago) link

ok i'm back from kinko's

as far as neptunes/sugababes go, maybe you do "get" pop. i'm not sure anybody (even ivan smagghe) would argue that what they're doing is as "new" or "exciting" as the human league - if you had lived through it. don't get caught in the trap a historicism. it'd have been just as easy for frank zappa to lampoon the ramones or new york dolls or whatever in the 1970s by recording "ruben + the jets" ("redundant piano triplets"!!!) (he lived through it, too, after all, cruising el cajon in a bread truck blasting bubblegum) and it would be just as wrong.

as far as stripping back / minimalism / tradition go ... not sure how you are going to defend relief here ... whatever cajmere wants to say about it (mr "i've heard a million acid tracks and frankly it's boring now") i'm not sure how you could characterize relief outside of sticking to tradition, functionalised

vahid (vahid), Monday, 27 February 2006 07:23 (eighteen years ago) link

i think L&PT are tying up loose ends from way back when and really are working in the past and maybe just using the unbias from the present. you could have imagined this going down in the 70's/80's - which i think is why its so immediate for alot of us...but it never did happen b/c even though disco and rock melded there were certain places where it did not intersect. i might get bored soon, but its nice to see this finally realized. and i don't think they are completely happy just making those connections, but also kinda try to build from that as if they have rewritten history...the further they go the more wobbly it gets, but some of it sounds like innovation to me. but just in why they go to the past ... it seems different that other dance artists using old stuff (re: those trends, i half agree with you/half with Vahid and really haven't heard enought stuff to know for sure how i feel....most of it seems boring though).

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Monday, 27 February 2006 07:45 (eighteen years ago) link

You may like it or dislike it but I think the er hyper-maximalism of a lot of current "minimal" is not really retro, a lot of these records don't sound like they could come from any time except the last two or three years. Meanwhile the hyper-commercial electro-house at the moment isn't particularly "retro", or at least that's not what people are getting out of it... it's all about rock-riffs and eurobeat style rapping, not sure it's reviving anything except (inadvertantly) "Another One Bites the Dust" and The Real McCoy's "Another Night".

As far as L&PT go: how many people on dancefloors have actually heard (heard of, even) the "space disco" it rips off? I don't think I have! And as I said upthread I think it's pretty different to Faze Action or Nuphonic, a lot of which I also like.

Also... I love Villalobos but I'm now getting really really sick of him being namechecked as the "token" innovator in current electronic music, he is quickly becoming the German Kanye West or even Outkast in this regard.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 27 February 2006 07:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Also... I love Villalobos but I'm now getting really really sick of him being namechecked as the "token" innovator in current electronic music, he is quickly becoming the German Kanye West or even Outkast in this regard.

-- Tim Finney (tfinne...), Today.

i half agree with you, tim. villalobos may be on his way to token innovator status like kanye & outkast but i don't think that they have ever really taken solid ground and tilted it at a 45 degree angle with their music the way that he has.

lf (lfam), Monday, 27 February 2006 16:42 (eighteen years ago) link

read one "hey ya!" thread

vahid (vahid), Monday, 27 February 2006 16:48 (eighteen years ago) link

this leads me to a question: not being "old enough to remember the 90s" or even the first part of this decade, just how new is the scene documented on kreucht und fleucht? or does it fall to the sort of criticism levelled at l&pt by shiny star?

also, vahid, i can't find the hey ya! thread. google searches are fruitless and ilm searches don't work on queries with all words under 4 characters.

lf (lfam), Monday, 27 February 2006 17:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Believe it or not, you guys have convinced me that I'm off the mark(although I am sick of the hyper-commercial electro-house).

I do think the new hyper-maximal minimal stuff is the most interesting stuff around now, but ok I'm being too purist and theoretical about cosmic disco.

shiny star, Monday, 27 February 2006 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link


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