what's gross about FMBO is how after a highly public break up he's written a song about how no matter how much of a jerk is, his ex-girlfriend is in thrall to his awesome magical penis. i mean, it's a good song, but it's still all sorts of gross
― Alex in Montreal
alex has recanted, but i'm still slightly bothered (though, as i said way upthread, i got over my initial squeamishness pretty quickly). given the dreamer's insistence on his own controversial "honesty" and the crassly public nature of contemporary celebrity, i think it's disingenuous to treat this as though it's completely unrelated the events of the artist's recent life. of course the song isn't necessarily autobiographical, but he's pushing buttons nonetheless.
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
it would be nice if when terius was listening to prince ... he took notes on how to be a freak without being a pig
― max
max and matt2's points about prince's sexual excesses OTM. prince's lyrics may be a bit grotesque ("masturbating with a magazine"), but they're generally focused on his desire and her allure. terry's only using her desperate, panting desire to paint a picture of his own complete sexual dominance. it's not like this kind of boastful excess is unique in dude's career, quite the opposite, but sometimes things work for you, sometimes they don't. i mean, shit, i dig "panties to the side"...
oh noes, no strings sex! odious! reprehensible! literally have no idea what u prudes are moaning about
in particular the notion that this song makes him come off poorer "as a human being" than the trite plodding idiocy of 'make up bag' or god idk a hundred other little things over the years is just laughable
― r|t|c, Wednesday, June 8, 2011 12:45 PM (3 hours ago)
thank you
― positive rapper (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
i've never been too offended by the pig-talk cos none of it seemed even a little bit real to me. i'm sure he gets laid plenty but idk, the guy's kind of unattractive.
― goole, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
oh wtg goole, now you made dream feel bad
― stately, plump bunk moreland (schlump), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
've never been too offended by the pig-talk cos none of it seemed even a little bit real to me. i'm sure he gets laid plenty but idk, the guy's kind of unattractive.
OTM. So is Ne-Yo.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
what do you mean "real"? the talk is the same regardless of his PUA stats, right? do you mean that it's in character, an artistic device that says nothing about terry's actual feelings & attitudes? maybe so, but it can still be unpleasant.
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
or hilarious, or sexy, or w/e.
His swinishness grates when music and arrangements fail him and he looks like another wobbly-voiced asshole. I prefer the swinishness when it's encased in ballad form, cuz he tends to self-absorption (i.e. what she is doing to him) instead of lashing out.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link
there's sweet exceptions ("February Love").
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link
i mean with a lot of other singers who say this kind of shit it either seems like a crazy story they are getting into, or it has some basis in life. with T i just get the feeling that he's basically lying to me. i'm like, fuck out of here man that didn't happen. i don't know why, just, all the women he sings about feel a bit 'canadian girlfriend' to me.
― goole, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:58 (twelve years ago) link
all the women he sings about feel a bit 'canadian girlfriend' to me.
lol
― Number None, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
the funniest/grossest/least believable aspect of FMBO is when she "turns around and gets on her knees"
― ☂ (max), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
lol goole, and okay, that's OTM and actually helps
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
the chorus to fmbo kind of sounds like a fast car retread
― british sb power (dayo), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:10 (twelve years ago) link
i feel like new the-dream after a few years of listening to him all starts to sound like a retread of the best songs on the first record
― lebroner (D-40), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:11 (twelve years ago) link
deej otm
― The Brainwasher, Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:12 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not sure if I just have Dream fatigue or if he has actually fell off but this "body work/fuck my brains out" song is v. dull
― The Brainwasher, Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:13 (twelve years ago) link
thirded
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:15 (twelve years ago) link
body work was pretty dull, at this point in my life I just can't accept another the-dream falsetto
― british sb power (dayo), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:16 (twelve years ago) link
I used to think Ne-Yo was muy sexy until I saw him without a hat. :/
― Spo-Dee-O-Dee-Dopaliscious! (The Reverend), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:22 (twelve years ago) link
the phrasing of the lyrics on fmbo totally reminds me of prince, the way he pauses between each line, the downward lilt, etc.
feel like I don't need to have a strong opinion on the-dream anymore tho
― british sb power (dayo), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:22 (twelve years ago) link
totally but it's super-enjoyable nonetheless
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Thursday, 9 June 2011 08:14 (twelve years ago) link
hahahahaha
― the-dream's car of the summer (tpp), Thursday, 9 June 2011 08:15 (twelve years ago) link
def. hoping for something *fresh* from him on love iv
fuck it i would still w with an album of retreads tho
― the-dream's car of the summer (tpp), Thursday, 9 June 2011 08:19 (twelve years ago) link
the thing is i really don't mind it when terius doesn't bother with ~songcraft~, concentrating on ridic goonish punchlines and sweetspot production satusfies me immensely cuz they're kind of terius stripped to his essence. like one of my fav the-dream songs will always be "hit it on the road" which encapsulates a ton of what i love about him
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Thursday, 9 June 2011 08:23 (twelve years ago) link
re: his lying, i dont think gravitas has ever been one of his strongpoints - his weakness as a singer/someone who can convey believable emotion is kind of both his achilles heel (yo dream! stick to producing etc) and what makes ppl seem to love him so much.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 9 June 2011 08:28 (twelve years ago) link
smh @ u dudes saying his career has peaked before the new bieber album has even dropped
― the-dream's car of the summer (tpp), Thursday, 9 June 2011 08:48 (twelve years ago) link
lol uhhh wait, you lads are coming out with this blasé uninspired retread stuff only now after love king?? these two songs are so much more switched-on than that stuff i can't even
― r|t|c, Thursday, 9 June 2011 09:34 (twelve years ago) link
even on the level of preaching to the converted (which i don't necessarily dispute) theyre infinitely more satisfying
― r|t|c, Thursday, 9 June 2011 09:37 (twelve years ago) link
I said the same thing about some songs on love king it's just something that gets worse w time and continued repititions of the formula. Really surprised you think these are some big step above love king, feels like same old same old to me
― lebroner (D-40), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link
Like I was willing to write my dampening enthusiasm off to my own fatigue circa love king, at this pt it just feels unavoidable
― lebroner (D-40), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:44 (twelve years ago) link
yeah idk, like i say i'm still coming to this from within the morbid terius bubble - i'm not nearly as invested as i was with the lvm material - but the general point is that this has got me back in the bubble to begin with
do think it's a bit sloppy to say "with time and continued repetitions" though, it's obviously the quality of the repetition we're disagreeing over rather than just some sort of automatic ennui kicking in
― r|t|c, Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link
k3v and finney been quiet, what r u guys saying
― r|t|c, Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link
i have no idea wtf he is talking about on twitter 98% of the time.
― bnw, Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:20 (twelve years ago) link
― the-dream's car of the summer (tpp), Thursday, June 9, 2011 4:48 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark
fwiw i was referring purely to his career as a solo performer -- dream and tricky aren't producing smashes as often as they used to but i don't doubt they could turn out rihanna or beyonce or usher's next #1
― 51 Cent (some dude), Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link
no. i came in very late, circa LK, and loved nearly everything on that record. went back and listened to the early stuff and found it all a bit samey when taken at once, but at least of equal quality. like both of these new tracks now that i've spent some time with them, but there's a noticable drop in immediate, jaw-on-the-floor quality. something's off...
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
Again, i don't think either of these will be on the album so i'm not really worried about the kind of throw-away nature of them.
― Number None, Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
yeah there is a single he's gonna play on monday. so who knows what these two are; they are freebies.
― stately, plump bunk moreland (schlump), Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:38 (twelve years ago) link
naturally i have already steeled myself for them turning out to be lk session offcuts
― r|t|c, Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:51 (twelve years ago) link
I don't really have any problem with more of the same.
― Spo-Dee-O-Dee-Dopaliscious! (The Reverend), Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
MrTeriusNash Terius Nashi may never beat LH or LVM... back then i was the only one Doing me now........
― the-dream's car of the summer (tpp), Thursday, 9 June 2011 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
...I don't masturbate nearly as much?
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
(well there's an ILX Out Of Context post for ya)
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
fuck it, this shit is dope
― J0rdan S., Friday, 10 June 2011 02:29 (twelve years ago) link
really is - i've been jamming to it all day. love the final coda. hear a lot of the grinding, machinelike beatwork of the "love vs money"s in body work.
― pearsonic, Friday, 10 June 2011 02:32 (twelve years ago) link
the vocals on the verses of "body work" are pretty unusual by his standards & yeah i dig all the grinding & whirring of the beat
― J0rdan S., Friday, 10 June 2011 02:36 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah. I've now listened to Body Work and Fuck My Brains Out 18 and 36 times respectively, so I guess I dig this.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 10 June 2011 02:42 (twelve years ago) link
im worried about that Tweet - is he admitting self-defeat?
― mingalaba, Monday, 13 June 2011 04:39 (twelve years ago) link
numbers don't lie
― J0rdan S., Monday, 13 June 2011 04:40 (twelve years ago) link