Superhero Filmmakers: Where's Our Watchmen?

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The ornithological article is kinda weird, and doesn't really give that much of the sort of background information the other articles do, which is why I've thought there might be a deeper level to it. Or maybe I'm just reading too much into the Moore style of writing?

Tuomas, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I remember reading some Neil Gaiman interview where he says he sorta helped Moore write that article. They'd already become friends back then, and it turned out Moore didn't know too much about birds, so he asked Gaiman for help, and he sent Moore some books on ornithology or something. So maybe it really was just filler, since symmetry required every issue must end with an article, and he hadn't come up with anything important for that issue...

Tuomas, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link

hope Veidt's still a dub reggae fan

"I'm into dancehall now."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Moore has his ways with the music references, doesn't he? Has anyone else heard the recorded version of the song ("This Vicious Cabaret") V sings in V For Vendetta (it's not by Moore but some rock singer)? It's kinda disappointing.

Tuomas, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I like it, because I am a big fan of said 'rock singer,' who is David J from Bauhaus/Love and Rockets.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Whoa.

Abbott, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I love in Watchmen, something like "I don't want to look like Devo."

Abbott, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd love to hear a version of the song sang by Moore himself, he as such a great voice.

Tuomas, Monday, 26 May 2008 22:00 (fifteen years ago) link

You've all heard this, right?

chap, Monday, 26 May 2008 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link

DUCKS! DUCKS!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 May 2008 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, I've always wondered if Dreiberg's ornithological article in the later issue is supposed to be allegorical in the same sense the Black Freighter story is, or is it just supposed to illuminate his character?

-- Tuomas, Monday, May 26, 2008 9:37 PM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

I remember at one point trying really hard to read it allegorically, but not really finding anything there. I think it's just supposed to underline that homie is really, almost sadly into birds.

No dis to orinthology folks, but like Ab said dude's prose is way over the top; makes it almost come off like a coping mechanism, he's desperate for something.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 26 May 2008 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link

for birds!

s1ocki, Monday, 26 May 2008 22:47 (fifteen years ago) link

aren't we all

latebloomer, Monday, 26 May 2008 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2008/mmpic.jpg

latebloomer, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 17:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Night Crotch

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 17:56 (fifteen years ago) link

unfortunate

HI DERE, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 17:58 (fifteen years ago) link

isn't the whole point of their old costumes that they're kind of silly? hopefully they'll be smart enough to play it that way.

Simon H., Tuesday, 27 May 2008 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link

which one is squirrel police?

DG, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 18:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Looks great!

Allen, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Silhouette's hot.

chap, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 19:06 (fifteen years ago) link

isn't the whole point of their old costumes that they're kind of silly? hopefully they'll be smart enough to play it that way.

Oh, I think it looks like they played it that way.

Abbott, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 20:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Looks like they're also going to play up the "footnote" aspect of the original comics with DVD editions.

sexyDancer, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 20:24 (fifteen years ago) link

i love the old costumes homemadeness

every time i see this thread i figure it means that watchmen movie is delayed like another year

rrrobyn, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

The trailer hits on Friday.

chap, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 21:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Erm, really? I thought they'd leave it for the ComicCon panel ...

Allen, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 21:55 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=22942

chap, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Ahhhh ... makes sense. Thanks for the tip.

Allen, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link

this is going to be so terrible

just re-read the comics last week, the thing is unfilmable.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought the black freighter bit was the glue that held the thing together. What I got from the black freighter storyline was that that was also the storyline all the characters were following in the main story - most clearly Veidt, but also Rorschach and the others.

-- AlanSmithee, Monday, May 26, 2008 8:09 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Link

so OTM, totally did not get this until very recently!

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Watchmen trailer, attached to Dark Knight, premiers on Empire Online:

http://www.empireonline.com/video/watchmen/

Ballsy use of Smashing Pumpkins track from the Batman & Robin soundtrack!

Simon H., Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link

"ballsy"

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:21 (fifteen years ago) link

oh, whatever.

Simon H., Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:21 (fifteen years ago) link

visually at least, it looks great.

latebloomer, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah nice comic book stylings. No need for Billy "laughing boy" Corgan, though.

Neil S, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:29 (fifteen years ago) link

visually at least, it looks great.

Pretty much my thought. I'm honestly amazed. Of course, the very 21st century effects/editing touches are jarring, but to be expected.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:35 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm still convinced this film is an impossible sell to people who haven't read the book (and some who have.)

Simon H., Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm ultimately skeptical -- still, though. (Sharp move not showing Veidt's Antarctic base, actually.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link

The question is whether the director can coherently transplant the plot and its ramifications, though. Given the level of subtlety of 300 I have my doubts, but here's hoping.

Neil S, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Dr Manhattan lookin' pretty good. Awful use of Corgan tho. the whole approach of the trailer is pretty terrible and formulaic - should'be tried to stand out more here. Cool to see the Mars glass house tho.

blueski, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link

the whole approach of the trailer is pretty terrible and formulaic

A good number of the shots are pretty much from the book -- and I'm amused at how they're all "Look, Night Owl's Batman, WE KNOW"

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Great looking trailer even with Corrigan's nasal mewling.

Capitaine Jay Vee, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I better read the comic! I have had the TPB for a while now, but there's always some fan-boy crossover that takes priority. I think there should be a She-Hulk movie, that would be awesome.

jel --, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link

A good number of the shots are pretty much from the book

i know, it's just the whole style of the trailer itself but i was hoping for no music, no slow mo etc., maybe use actual Nixon speeches cut up and whatnot

also really sick and tired of 'human being destroyed/blown apart/smashed into bits but the last remaining recognisable part of them is their screaming mouth' sequences

blueski, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link

link doesn't work for me :(

Pancakes Hackman, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Awful soundtrack to that preview.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link

don't like the obviously-all-shot-in-front-of-a-green-screen-ness of it all :(

DG, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:54 (fifteen years ago) link

I think it looks terrible. color scheme is all wrong.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link

would love to hear deeznuts explain how this movie is inherently superior to the comics by virtue of its being a movie

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link

OK, it's also at (shudder) Harry Knowles's.

DG, it wasn't all shot in front of a green screen! It was shot mostly on practical sets!

Love the shot of Veidt nailing the assassin guy. And the Dr. Manhattan effects look great.

Pancakes Hackman, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link

they did actually film on Mars i believe

blueski, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:01 (fifteen years ago) link


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