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there's a lot of detail going on. the tracks always stay constant but never sit still.

The Boy Who Can Go Inside The TV (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 13:45 (twelve years ago) link

This indeed sounds AMAZINGLY good on vinyl. I've never really heard production quite like this before... There's an unbelievable amount of detail to each track, for sure.

Clarke B., Tuesday, 7 June 2011 22:45 (twelve years ago) link

I believe the elephant in the room with his project is a Mr. Ed Banger

straightola, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

are ed banger involved with this?

The Boy Who Can Go Inside The TV (dog latin), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

Something Chromeo-ish about this that kind of...I dunno. Like the Games stuff better.

Vendo Caramelos A Veces Sin Dinero (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:07 (twelve years ago) link

i hear more chromeo vibes than ed banger vibes, but i can see why you would say that

haha xp

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

along with all the marginalia there are definitely some serious '80s stadium-rock influences

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

but again, you could probably say the same about "planet party" from the ep

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

Definitely into the 80s synth geekery on Channel Pressure... what takes away some of the pleasure is knowing it's like a concept/story album. I can't help but imagine the story in my mind listening to it, which makes me appreciate the music less for some reason. I like making up my own stories to songs, I guess.

Spectrum, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

I believe the elephant in the room with his project is a Mr. Ed Banger

― straightola, Wednesday, June 8, 2011 3:39 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

Jesus. Way to put me off ever wanting to here this!

Terje Chocolate Orange (seandalai), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

uh, hear.

Terje Chocolate Orange (seandalai), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

jesus indeed, it doesn't ACTUALLY sound very much like ed banger... only real similarities i can think of are compression (which is everywhere so w/e) and stadium rock homages

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

the production is so generous, all that choppy 80s synth bass, gymnastic vocal processing, cut up enya coos, loads of period production flourishes like adhd new age; the little ed banger i know makes a woeful comparison. it is PUNCHY tho. first that james ferraro record, now this, chillwave bros becoming v unchill sugar rush mentalists of late. the lyrics are like a masterful satire of chillwave - now i'm alone and the tvs on/its the colour of power rock - but i love them. this is so great, i'm surprised there's not more conviction on this thread.

ogmor, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 20:46 (twelve years ago) link

adhd new age is a great way to describe this

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:55 (twelve years ago) link

Clarke B - thanks to your description of Oneohtrixpoint Never, I think I'm a convert! What I hadn't realised is how powerful the effect of his music has over me. Every time I've put it on, it's put me into a complete trance and I can't remember listening to it again. It's totally cerebral.

Think this is why Ford & Lopatin work so well - it's a real yinyang, right/left brain, apollonian/dionysian balance they have going on and it works.

The Boy Who Can Go Inside The TV (dog latin), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

While we're counting soundalikes for Channel Pressure, I feel like the VHS Head album from last year is an obvious predecessor.

Terje Chocolate Orange (seandalai), Thursday, 9 June 2011 12:35 (twelve years ago) link

I'm expecting this to have a lot of commonalities with the Valerie label roster (eg. Anoraak) - the Games EP sure did.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 9 June 2011 12:37 (twelve years ago) link

It's more, I dunno, home listening than the Valerie artists I've heard. Far more interesting production touches too.

Terje Chocolate Orange (seandalai), Thursday, 9 June 2011 13:14 (twelve years ago) link

My pleasure, Dog Latin, and I'm in total agreement on its immersive character... And Channel Pressure is SO GOOD, you guys. There are so many little surprises and delicious textures and squiggles and secret wormholes in the production; I've never heard anything quite like it. Something about the record reminds me, weirdly, of Paul's Boutique, but instead of spot-the-sample it's a game of spot-the-reference... There's one riff in "Joey Rogers" that's almost a direct quote of that crazy fucking robot-guitar finger-tapping-sounding thing just before the chorus in Yes's "Owner of a Lonely Heart"--but it's subtle. These guys have internalized this stuff so much that it doesn't sound like pastiche or overly reverential mimicry or anything; it's not "hey look at us we sound like '80s Yes and Thomas Dolby LOL"--their ids leak the shit.

Clarke B., Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

I'm going to hold back on the effusive praise for this until I'm convinced it has the tunes and/or depth to hold my interest after the initial novelty wears off.

Terje Chocolate Orange (seandalai), Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:16 (twelve years ago) link

I hear you... I've personally had something or other from this record in my head nearly constantly since I started listening to it. "World of Regret" is there currently...

Clarke B., Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

any reason to pick this up on vinyl?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

(apart from retro fetishism that is)

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

I just like the way stuff sounds on vinyl. I have a decent setup and the bass is much richer and deeper on vinyl for me, plus everything is just a little more "present"... I'd wager that a lot of the stuff they're referencing was actually initially purchased mainly on cassette!

Clarke B., Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

Comes with a download coupon too FWIW

Clarke B., Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

i didnt get a coupon this is bs

ogmor, Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

so i really like this but ... is there anything that sounds like this *without* the vocals? because i don't really care for the voice.

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 10 June 2011 04:46 (twelve years ago) link

the "instrumental" versions sorta remind me of cylob (ambient news), though more superficially 'fat'-sounding.. i suppose the compressed thump of it recalls chris clark (but clean), or jackson and his computer band

Lowell N. Behold'n, Friday, 10 June 2011 05:02 (twelve years ago) link

did the version you have not come with instrumentals moonship? they're out there for most of the songs on the album with vocals

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Friday, 10 June 2011 05:04 (twelve years ago) link

are the instrumentals a separate disc or part of the CD?

i was thinking more like similar artists ... i really like the sound design and the effects they use

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 10 June 2011 05:25 (twelve years ago) link

Hmmm... not really the same thing but you could do worse than check out the last album by Tipper (best sound design I think I've ever heard on an album tbh) and Console's "Herself" (which I've banged on about a few times here).

The Boy Who Can Go Inside The TV (dog latin), Friday, 10 June 2011 08:59 (twelve years ago) link

What's the beef with the vocals? I guess I can see them maybe coming across a little mannered/stylized, but they stop well short of fey for me (unlike certain other high-voiced guys singing over electronic music)... Plus it's hard to imagine the songs working nearly as well without the vocal hooks.

Clarke B., Friday, 10 June 2011 12:00 (twelve years ago) link

Com Truise

blank, Friday, 10 June 2011 14:39 (twelve years ago) link

gave it a second listen in the car last night, the album sounded much less psychedelic and trippy and the vocals were much easier to deal with. i think i forget sometimes that my home system is absurdly bright and that sometimes makes certain recordings tough to deal with

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 10 June 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

good looking out blank

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 10 June 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

Oh man, I bet this is a great driving album... There are times I miss driving so much, and it's usually when there's something I want to listen to while doing it. I hear you re: a non-ideal setup bringing out stuff in recordings in a bad way--happens to me with my computer speakers a lot.

Clarke B., Friday, 10 June 2011 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

miss my B&Ws so much now that I've moved in with gf :-(

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 10 June 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

I miss listening to music now I've moved in with my gf :-(

The Boy Who Can Go Inside The TV (dog latin), Friday, 10 June 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

yeah that too actually

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 10 June 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

i have electrostatic ribbon speakers which are super-bright to begin with ... in a room with bare wood floor, facing painted drywall at a distance of about 8 feet. the first half of the album was unbearably bright, the second half deeply trippy in a flying lotus way.

i hear all of the "french touch" references on the thread

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 10 June 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

i did a quickie interview with Joel Ford for the show tonight.

beta blog, Friday, 10 June 2011 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

They're playing TONIGHT? In Brooklyn? Man, my day just got a lot better...

Clarke B., Friday, 10 June 2011 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

at the Mercury Lounge in LES.

beta blog, Friday, 10 June 2011 21:48 (twelve years ago) link

I thought it was at 285 Kent: http://www.villagevoice.com/events/turrbotax-presents-ford-and-lopatin-jacques-greene-autre-ne-veut-2612868/

Clarke B., Friday, 10 June 2011 22:11 (twelve years ago) link

Okay, so people keep talking about Scritti Politti and I'm intrigued. What kind of stuff are they channeling? Any recommendations?

kraudive, Saturday, 11 June 2011 13:53 (twelve years ago) link

the title track does remind me of the remix of 'Absolute' a lot so start with Cupid & Psyche 85

blueski, Saturday, 11 June 2011 14:33 (twelve years ago) link

good show -- early 90s vibes strong. much more build-and-release dance than concise pop live. however it was one of the hottest shows i have ever been in and i felt like i was going to die so i spent a portion of it listening from outside

dj spinning underground resistance afterward, nice

teflon dawn (uptown churl), Saturday, 11 June 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

:-D

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 11 June 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link

cupid & psyche 85 has a lot more BIG SCARE QUOTES soul than this

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 11 June 2011 22:44 (twelve years ago) link

"emergency room" i think is the closest it gets to scritti

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 11 June 2011 22:50 (twelve years ago) link


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