the crimes of george lucas ('90s on)

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my 5 year old was finally exposted to the Phantom Menace this week, he did not appear to enjoy any of it

we started watching attack of the clones and he was grossed out by the kissing. However, I thought it was pretty good, having skipped it in the theaters at the time. The scenes with the clones in little bottles was neat, anyway.

akm, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

the prequels improve in quality as they go along IMO

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link

"he killed younglings"

Latham Green, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:47 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe it was due to my radically decreasing enthusiasm as the series went on, but I thought phantom menace was the best (though still terrible). The "action" and "romance" in the other two was terrifyingly inept.

Oh, and Yoda leaping around and kicking ass is 1000000x more of a problem than greedo shooting first.

ryan, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

Yoda leaping around and kicking ass was great in exactly the same way that the dancing zombies in the "Thriller" video were great

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

Thriller was meant to be funny, Attack of the Clones wasn't

Number None, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

the po-faced seriousness of a Yoda/Dooku lightsaber battle

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

he looked like a frog on cocaine

Latham Green, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

the po-faced seriousness of a Yoda/Dooku lightsaber battle

Well, yeah

Number None, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

I mean there's nothing in any of the prequels to suggest Lucas had any sense of humour about what he was doing. I refer you to the Darth Vader "NOOOOOOO" scene in the third film (which is definitely the worst, although it's a fairly pointless distinction when they're all so terrible.)

Number None, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

"DO NOT WANT!!"

Latham Green, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:06 (twelve years ago) link

"NOOOOO" was one of the best moments in the trilogy. At least it produces a reaction other than boredom (laughter).

( . __ . ) . o O ( cum ) (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

"I've become more powerful that any Jedi!"
Yeah sure Dooku, that's why you threw a bunch of shit around and then jumped in a spaceship and RAN AWAY.

got a whole lotta gloves (snoball), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

I love Phantom Menace, Lucas's cheery ode to Song of the South.

polyphonic, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

I mean there's nothing in any of the prequels to suggest Lucas had any sense of humour about what he was doing.

You think Yoda hobbling up with a crutch, slowly laying it down, brandishing a lightsaber, and then flipping around all over the place like a pachinko ball during the fight, after which he slowly bent over to retrieve his crutch and hobbled away WASN'T intentional humor????

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

I can't believe I'm still chuckling at "DO NOT WANT!!" after all these years

peter in montreal, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

or Anakin and Obi-Wan having a mini bitch fit at each other while tied to pillars in the gladiator arena while Padme climbed on top of hers and throttled a monster with her chain was unintentionally funny?

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

I really don't think you understand George Lucas DJP

Number None, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think you understand Star Wars movies!

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link

like, all six of them are packed with stuff like this, aside maybe from "Revenge of the Sith"

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think I understand CGI

Latham Green, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

I don't consider the prequels to have anything to do with the original trilogy to be honest. They're entirely different in tone and execution.

Number None, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

execution, yes; tone, not so much

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link

finally watched the yoda fight on youtube (saw I & III but somehow I only caught two minutes at a friends house of a movie named "Attack Of The Clones"). Somehow forgot he'd be an animation now rather than a puppet.

da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

tbh these days I enjoy the Family Guy/Robot Chicken Star Wars parodies way more than I enjoy any of the Star Wars films

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

The shots of him twirling around mid-air are nice but the dialogue and footage of animated characters grimacing at floating animated objects didn't really do it for me

da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

actually twirling emperor might even be funnier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRd9PGmAQUE

da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

tbh these days I enjoy the Family Guy/Robot Chicken Star Wars parodies way more than I enjoy any of the Star Wars films

This is where i give up

Number None, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

it's just that there is no reason for anyone operating from anything like a position of fairness to give the original trilogy a pass; those movies are very enjoyable, but they are also very, very stupid, in all of the same ways that the prequel trilogy is stupid

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

i don't think george lucas has been fair to us, why should we be fair to george lucas

da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

yeah they're all stupid, but I don't think all the qualities that make the original trilogy likable are in the latter batch

da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

it is true that George gave us Jar Jar, but then Jar Jar is directly responsible for the rise of the Empire which kind of redeems the existence of the character and cements him as not merely useless, but actively dangerous/detrimental

yeah they're all stupid, but I don't think all the qualities that make the original trilogy likable are in the latter batch

well no, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher and Billy Dee Williams are not in the latter batch

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

Original trilogy is stupid in the same way that Buck Rogers/Flash Gordon is stupid. Prequel trilogy is stupid in the same way that Beverley Hills 90210/Baywatch is stupid.

got a whole lotta gloves (snoball), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:28 (twelve years ago) link

george lucas won't let me buy a widescreen copy of the original movies without his goofy ass cgi additions, if he doesn't like people overrating the movies of their youth at the expense of his crappy animated hayden christiansen vehicles, he can go cry on a pile of money

da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

6 hours of bonus features - one is an hour long still pic of Lucas you can pray to

Latham Green, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

the most hilarious thing about the CGIed originals is the confrontation in Star Wars between Han and Jabba where they had to insert a reaction shot of Han stepping on Jabba's tail because the original blocking wasn't wide enough to accommodate Jabba's character model

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:33 (twelve years ago) link

the thing i like about the plunkett reviews is that he almost totally ignores jar jar - too easy a target when there's so many deep-seated flaws to go after

( . __ . ) . o O ( cum ) (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

my favorite thing from them - which i'm sure i referenced upthread - is the pussified scream one-armed Luke gives as he falls in Empire. What was a silent "fuck you, dad" fall becomes AH, I SLIPPESD!

da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

haha the caption for this video says it was removed from the DVD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaXgK5HRBjk

da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

all of the planetary/Death Star explosions are hilarious, too

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

man just even look at the set design in that clip...shit's epic. computers shomputers, gimme a stunt falling down a disco tunnel

da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link

otm!

( . __ . ) . o O ( cum ) (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link

a stunt guy, i mean xpost

da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

:54

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link

"hilarious"

metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

i dont even have to watch it, i remember perfectly how awkwardly han 'steps' over jabba's tail - sorta like this:

http://m.assetbar.com/uua6Ptg4Q.gif

( . __ . ) . o O ( cum ) (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

and then jabba's eyes bulge comically

( . __ . ) . o O ( cum ) (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

when george lucas dies he's going to be sent to a CGI heaven I tell you. "oh these are just as good as your real dead relatives...just as good! BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA!!!"

da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link


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