Fucked Up - David Comes To Life

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enjoying this a lot, but it does get to be a bit much. like, i'm halfway through, and all the textural variation in the world can't balance out damian mixed high on every track & every track a springboard for pummeling uplift. i mean, i get how he's the band's focal point, and you can't really do ham by half measures, but it's still a trap. it starts to get oppressive after a while, even when the songs are there. and the songs are definitely there. fucking "life in paper"!

contenderizer, Monday, 30 May 2011 22:01 (twelve years ago) link

all the textural variation in the world can't balance out damian mixed high on every track & every track a springboard for pummeling uplift.

a complaint by no means unique to this album. or this band, ffs. hardcore is tricky.

contenderizer, Monday, 30 May 2011 22:02 (twelve years ago) link

SINKING ON A SHIP OF FOOLS!
SINKING ON A SHIP OF FOOLS!

contenderizer, Monday, 30 May 2011 22:03 (twelve years ago) link

theres a reason hardcore punk albums are short

flopson, Monday, 30 May 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

& that reason is they give ppl headaches

flopson, Monday, 30 May 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

This is why I only every cherrypick 3-4 songs per record rather than sit through the whole bloody thing.

Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Monday, 30 May 2011 22:05 (twelve years ago) link

also for a record that leans so heavily on concept/lyrics, they're...not very interesting.

Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Monday, 30 May 2011 22:05 (twelve years ago) link

I'm by no means a punk fan, and I don't like watching Fucked Up live but I do think he's got something vocally that gives him more grain than mere bellowing. And even so it's balanced out here by the Mustard Gas Primitives/Adult Net bits.

Just realised that I've had the "dying on the inside" bit like a locked loop inside my head for days.

PG Harpy (Doran), Monday, 30 May 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link

yeah 'some tracks' is still my favorite thing they've done and i felt like damon was way too high in the mix for me to enjoy most of 'chemistry,' that opening scream hurts my ears

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 30 May 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

could use a few instrumental interludes or narrative asides to break things up. ballads maybe. like a concept album, you know? take your broken wings and learn to fly.

contenderizer, Monday, 30 May 2011 22:09 (twelve years ago) link

wings lungs

contenderizer, Monday, 30 May 2011 22:10 (twelve years ago) link

guitar playing is so fucking badass though, all the way through. drumming too.

contenderizer, Monday, 30 May 2011 22:11 (twelve years ago) link

fly sing

PG Harpy (Doran), Monday, 30 May 2011 22:11 (twelve years ago) link

love at least half of this. the opening instrumental is as gorgeous as "opening instrumental on a hardcore rock opera" is unpromising.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 00:23 (twelve years ago) link

I say this on every Fucked Up thread
But "Epics In Minutes", guys. "Epics In Minutes". Do not pass Go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXOqWfSfAus

KRSTRMFT (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 15:27 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know how these guys can wake up in the morning and feel that they can possible improve upon their impossibly wide and consistently terrific back catalog
It must be tough

KRSTRMFT (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

i guess i have to listen to this

markers, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

this is gonna be the best summer ever

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

i really like how on the top level all these songs are the same. like there are no vocal melodies. it's like six notes looped for 77 minutes with all this stuff happening underneath it.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

except here and there. like "hello my name is david" suddenly cutting through everything.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

Only seventy-seven minutes, eh?

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

25% more music than the gaga album for the same price, alfred. if not for fucking amazon.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

See, I never want "more" music.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

you should pretend this is about david foster wallace

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

!

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

This is good.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 00:39 (twelve years ago) link

this is so my album of the year so far not that i really hear all that many albums

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 9 June 2011 05:45 (twelve years ago) link

I've never liked Fucked Up, but "Queen of Hearts" is phenomenal. Gonna try to hear the whole thing asap.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 9 June 2011 05:48 (twelve years ago) link

Okay, it starts to all blur together in a distorted and screamy sameyness by the midway point, so I don't know if it's AOTY material...but I do think "Queen of Hearts" is pretty rad.

(note: I had the same impression of the Gaga album my first time through, so who knows.)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 9 June 2011 06:28 (twelve years ago) link

^ basically what i came away with, given the same (awesome) entry point

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 06:36 (twelve years ago) link

Concept reminds me a little bit of Alasdair Gray's Lanark.

The Boy Who Can Go Inside The TV (dog latin), Thursday, 9 June 2011 10:12 (twelve years ago) link

"A Little Death" and "The Other Shoe" are both the little bits I've heard from this band are great, but 75 mins of Fucked Up = no thanks.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

Okay this David's Town thing is really pretty fun.

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

Especially the one that sounds like Fleetwood Mac and the one with Carl Newman providing vocals.

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

Someone needs to make me a Fucked Up P0X. They're a band I root for and want to like more, but, as stated upthread, their discography is impenetrable. I have something called Year Of The Pig, and recall favorably reviewing their first album many years ago, and I have various other things here and there on my computer. Haven't disliked anything.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

Is it ethically wrong to listen to this album on shuffle? Or should I be listening to each suite at a time in order for it to make sense?

(semi seriosu about this question)

The Boy Who Can Go Inside The TV (dog latin), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

unless you're carefully following the lyrics, the story is imperceptible, and it's not like there's an important musical structure to the album as a whole (???), so i'd say go ahead and shuffle

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I'd say enjoy it however you want. The story really only comes through if you are sitting with the lyrics book in hand, so I'd say just enjoy them in whatever order you want.

After listening to all of the David's Town thing, I'm pretty sure no one in Britain in the late 70s was saying "O!M!G!".

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

shuffle it. I have. Dunno why it needs a concept holding it together. Not sure it's really going to improve its worth seeing as its what I've been hoping they'd do for ages.

owenf, Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

the first two tracks are great openers but after that yeah do what you feel. i haven't parsed any of the story at all.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 9 June 2011 23:28 (twelve years ago) link

Initially disappointed that there's no Crooked Head here, and definitely not an album to listen to on headphones (ear fatigue!) but it's growing on me. After a bunch of listens, Ship of Fools definitely reminding me a lot of shoutier Archers of Loaf, and "Nostalgia" in particular, probably coincidence.

dlp9001, Friday, 10 June 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

p. clearly album of the year material for me

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 02:54 (twelve years ago) link

huh never heard these dudes, i guess now is the time

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 04:15 (twelve years ago) link

oy, this is awesome

thomp, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link

huh i was wondering how long it would take for god to come into it

thomp, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 14:23 (twelve years ago) link

Pink Eye: We talk about God more on this record than a Christian band.

Are you religious?

Pink Eye: Not at all. Not. At. All.
10,000 Marbles: We ran out of metaphors.
Pink Eye: We exhausted all those metaphors about moshing and friends and the pit. So now we were like, "God, what’s left?”
Concentration Camp: God!

(2006.)

thomp, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

yeah the majority of the imagery and use of metaphor that Damian is kicking around on here is pretty much the same as what was on Hidden World and probably some stuff before that

Beth Gibbons & Foreskin Man (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

on 'chemistry' the majority of the lyrics are by 10,000 marbles, whose real name i do not know; i do not know, also, if this is the case for their other records

thomp, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

they've had the metaphysical bent since hidden world at least

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

10,000 Marbles = Mike Haliechuk (sp.)

Beth Gibbons & Foreskin Man (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

Loving the "David's Town" compilation.

Boehner & der club of GOP (Ówen P.), Sunday, 10 July 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

I just got my copy of David's Town (prices on eBay seem to have dropped pretty quickly) and was mildly disappointed that the packaging didn't go a little farther with the idea. Like I really wanted to be completely convinced that it was an artifact. And an insert would have been nice. Like maybe a fake "join our mailing list" for some non-existant label, etc. So much for that cheap thrill.

At the moment it's reminding me of any number of 90's indie comps that I don't remember anymore (not that there was anything wrong with them). And that's really not putting it down. You can kind of see how the need to contend w/Pink Eyes' voice is what brings out the best of this band, though, and it makes me wonder how future stuff without him might fare...

dlp9001, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link

...words of doomy portent

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 22:38 (twelve years ago) link

"F-word Up" love u Greg Kot

This is still so great.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 21:50 (twelve years ago) link

hahaha kot

markers, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

four months pass...

saw them perform this whole album live, last night @ LPR. having never heard it before that, i bought it on vinyl after the show and... it's not quite as amazing as it was live.

BringTheAuBonPain, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 23:52 (twelve years ago) link

Um, give it another day....

dlp9001, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 23:57 (twelve years ago) link

you're probably right. i think my ears are still a bit fucked.

BringTheAuBonPain, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 00:36 (twelve years ago) link

i's better in small doses

Glo-Vember (dog latin), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 01:05 (twelve years ago) link

four years pass...

that queen of hearts song

Treeship, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 01:21 (seven years ago) link

srsly

imago, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 09:06 (seven years ago) link

four months pass...

tt just put Year Of The Snake on. my response: "if this had been the Ride comeback everyone would have been 'oh cool!'"

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Saturday, 1 April 2017 11:35 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

that queen of hearts song

― Treeship, Tuesday, November 1, 2016 9:21 PM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yup!

1.5 listens through “Dose Your Dreams” and I think it’s pretty great in that they went even more out-there-Fucked-Up. This made me want to hear their next album be like Killing Joke but fronted by Damian.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 01:43 (five years ago) link


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