Okay, you'll probably still hate them then.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 May 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
i keed...
― contenderizer, Monday, 30 May 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
anticipatin! like hidden world and the chemistry of common life well enough, LOVE stray tracks here and there: "generation", "year of the pig" (plus other years), "dangerous fumes", "two snakes". they remind me of les thugs for some reason. pink eyes is sort of an obstacle tho...
― contenderizer, Monday, 30 May 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
I loved Chemistry of Common Life so much and wasn't sure just how they'd be able to expand their sound even further and, tbh, I got a little nervous and imagined flashes of Green Day when I heard "70s style concept album", but I really think this works extremely well and I love just how much time and attention to detail they've put into the whole thing - even if I'm not sure just yet how well actually works to tell a story. I'll need a few more listens for that, but even if it fails on that level, I still find it and extremely replayable album and something I'll be spending a lot of time with this summer.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 May 2011 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
they remind me of les thugs for some reason
Comparison makes sense now you mention it.
Band has too many singles and too many compilations of those singles with cross-sections of the same tracks on it seems?
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 30 May 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, their discography is kind of a mess. So far I've stuck with the three albums proper, the Couple Tracks compilation, and all the singles in the Zodiac series.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 May 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
whiney told me to check this out on a http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=81488 tip & i kinda forgot about it + dude's voice has always scared me off but "queen of hearts" is amazing
i hope this is this year's 'the monitor'
― J0rdan S., Monday, 30 May 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah "Queen of Hearts" is so great. I had to replay that one a couple times before I finished the whole thing.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 May 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
fuck, this sounds great
― J0rdan S., Monday, 30 May 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhgOt7YFN0I
o shit, it does sound like titus a! in good and bad ways, but generally an improvement upon. fukken epic. love the girl vox.
― contenderizer, Monday, 30 May 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
is there a meaning to every song title on the album being three words
― J0rdan S., Monday, 30 May 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
the fuck. if the rest of the album is anywhere near that good, i will love it in inappropriate places.
― contenderizer, Monday, 30 May 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
fuuuuck i'm such a sucker for this shit
― J0rdan S., Monday, 30 May 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
"the other shoe"
― J0rdan S., Monday, 30 May 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
ACT ONE: Love, then tragedy strikes the town.ACT TWO: David loses Veronica, and then himself, as he succumbs to guilt and despair.ACT THREE: Another character is revealed, putting the responsibility for Veronica's death into question.ACT FOUR: A revelation from Vivian sheds more light on Veronica's death; Octavio and Vivian explain their motives, and David is reborn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF6NTvJJYs8&NR=1
^ a good deal less pop than QoH, but equally anthemic. instrumental section = O_O
― contenderizer, Monday, 30 May 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
wondered that. odd that "i love you" isn't among them.
― contenderizer, Monday, 30 May 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
Been listening to this album all weekend. F'ckn love it.
― PG Harpy (Doran), Monday, 30 May 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link
why PG Harpy?
― contenderizer, Monday, 30 May 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
Another board user said his young kid is taken with PJ Harvey and calls her PG Harpy, I had an actual LOL moment and the moment was sealed...
― PG Harpy (Doran), Monday, 30 May 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
ope, goddit
― contenderizer, Monday, 30 May 2011 20:46 (twelve years ago) link
plus lol
promo helpfulness
you know, we're just, like, regular people, we're not, like, punks, like, we're not trying to fuck with people anymore, like, we did do that, you know, when we were younger, but now we just wanna make, like, interesting music that people like
― contenderizer, Monday, 30 May 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
h8 that attitude
― flopson, Monday, 30 May 2011 20:59 (twelve years ago) link
Crooked Head is still my four-year-old's favorite song in the world. Really excited to hear this new one...
― dlp9001, Monday, 30 May 2011 21:01 (twelve years ago) link
you know, i'm just, like, a regular person, not, like, a gangsta rapper, like, we're not trying to fuck with people anymore, like, we did do that, you know, when we were younger, but now i just wanna make, like, comedies that an entire family can enjoy together
-ice cube
― flopson, Monday, 30 May 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link
"A Little Death" and "The Other Shoe" are both great, but 75 mins of Fucked Up = no thanks.
― Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Monday, 30 May 2011 21:03 (twelve years ago) link
<3 the guitar as "strings" when the album opens (a confession of more than one kind)
― contenderizer, Monday, 30 May 2011 21:03 (twelve years ago) link
http://buytheserecords.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Fucked-Up-David-Comes-To-Life.jpg
album cover suggests that the three-word concept really is "i love you"
― contenderizer, Monday, 30 May 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link
"queen of hearts" hitting me way harder the 2nd time through, song of the year shit
― contenderizer, Monday, 30 May 2011 21:08 (twelve years ago) link
well, or song of memorial day, anyway...
this fucking rules fyi
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 30 May 2011 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
did anybody get the fake comp?
pumped for this
― call all destroyer, Monday, 30 May 2011 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
Album of the year. So far, anyway, but it's hard to imagine a better, more genuinely affecting piece of work top this one in the next six or seven months.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 30 May 2011 21:54 (twelve years ago) link
I did yeah, it's not bad, not going to shine a light on anything wrt the band but there are some neat songs so hey
I was listening to this album then I saw that this thread had been started
I still got big clown love for 'Hidden World' so I obv have no problem w/ 75 minutes of this band, moreover Damian has one of the consistently best punk rock voices of the last 10 years for my money
'Serve Me Right' and 'Ship of Fools' are standout-ly huge tracks on this for me so far - probably 80% or more of my favourite songs by this band are their punk bangers
― deems vs boards (DJ Mencap), Monday, 30 May 2011 21:55 (twelve years ago) link
first line was an xp to Hoos
enjoying this a lot, but it does get to be a bit much. like, i'm halfway through, and all the textural variation in the world can't balance out damian mixed high on every track & every track a springboard for pummeling uplift. i mean, i get how he's the band's focal point, and you can't really do ham by half measures, but it's still a trap. it starts to get oppressive after a while, even when the songs are there. and the songs are definitely there. fucking "life in paper"!
― contenderizer, Monday, 30 May 2011 22:01 (twelve years ago) link
all the textural variation in the world can't balance out damian mixed high on every track & every track a springboard for pummeling uplift.
a complaint by no means unique to this album. or this band, ffs. hardcore is tricky.
― contenderizer, Monday, 30 May 2011 22:02 (twelve years ago) link
SINKING ON A SHIP OF FOOLS!SINKING ON A SHIP OF FOOLS!
― contenderizer, Monday, 30 May 2011 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
theres a reason hardcore punk albums are short
― flopson, Monday, 30 May 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
& that reason is they give ppl headaches
This is why I only every cherrypick 3-4 songs per record rather than sit through the whole bloody thing.
― Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Monday, 30 May 2011 22:05 (twelve years ago) link
also for a record that leans so heavily on concept/lyrics, they're...not very interesting.
I'm by no means a punk fan, and I don't like watching Fucked Up live but I do think he's got something vocally that gives him more grain than mere bellowing. And even so it's balanced out here by the Mustard Gas Primitives/Adult Net bits.
Just realised that I've had the "dying on the inside" bit like a locked loop inside my head for days.
― PG Harpy (Doran), Monday, 30 May 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
yeah 'some tracks' is still my favorite thing they've done and i felt like damon was way too high in the mix for me to enjoy most of 'chemistry,' that opening scream hurts my ears
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 30 May 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link
could use a few instrumental interludes or narrative asides to break things up. ballads maybe. like a concept album, you know? take your broken wings and learn to fly.
― contenderizer, Monday, 30 May 2011 22:09 (twelve years ago) link
wings lungs
― contenderizer, Monday, 30 May 2011 22:10 (twelve years ago) link
guitar playing is so fucking badass though, all the way through. drumming too.
― contenderizer, Monday, 30 May 2011 22:11 (twelve years ago) link
fly sing
― PG Harpy (Doran), Monday, 30 May 2011 22:11 (twelve years ago) link
love at least half of this. the opening instrumental is as gorgeous as "opening instrumental on a hardcore rock opera" is unpromising.
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 00:23 (twelve years ago) link
I say this on every Fucked Up threadBut "Epics In Minutes", guys. "Epics In Minutes". Do not pass Go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXOqWfSfAus
― KRSTRMFT (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
This is good.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 00:39 (twelve years ago) link
this is so my album of the year so far not that i really hear all that many albums
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 9 June 2011 05:45 (twelve years ago) link
I've never liked Fucked Up, but "Queen of Hearts" is phenomenal. Gonna try to hear the whole thing asap.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 9 June 2011 05:48 (twelve years ago) link
Okay, it starts to all blur together in a distorted and screamy sameyness by the midway point, so I don't know if it's AOTY material...but I do think "Queen of Hearts" is pretty rad.
(note: I had the same impression of the Gaga album my first time through, so who knows.)
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 9 June 2011 06:28 (twelve years ago) link
^ basically what i came away with, given the same (awesome) entry point
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 06:36 (twelve years ago) link
Concept reminds me a little bit of Alasdair Gray's Lanark.
― The Boy Who Can Go Inside The TV (dog latin), Thursday, 9 June 2011 10:12 (twelve years ago) link
"A Little Death" and "The Other Shoe" are both the little bits I've heard from this band are great, but 75 mins of Fucked Up = no thanks.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link
Okay this David's Town thing is really pretty fun.
― the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link
Especially the one that sounds like Fleetwood Mac and the one with Carl Newman providing vocals.
― the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
Someone needs to make me a Fucked Up P0X. They're a band I root for and want to like more, but, as stated upthread, their discography is impenetrable. I have something called Year Of The Pig, and recall favorably reviewing their first album many years ago, and I have various other things here and there on my computer. Haven't disliked anything.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
Is it ethically wrong to listen to this album on shuffle? Or should I be listening to each suite at a time in order for it to make sense?
(semi seriosu about this question)
― The Boy Who Can Go Inside The TV (dog latin), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
unless you're carefully following the lyrics, the story is imperceptible, and it's not like there's an important musical structure to the album as a whole (???), so i'd say go ahead and shuffle
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I'd say enjoy it however you want. The story really only comes through if you are sitting with the lyrics book in hand, so I'd say just enjoy them in whatever order you want.
After listening to all of the David's Town thing, I'm pretty sure no one in Britain in the late 70s was saying "O!M!G!".
― the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:33 (twelve years ago) link
shuffle it. I have. Dunno why it needs a concept holding it together. Not sure it's really going to improve its worth seeing as its what I've been hoping they'd do for ages.
― owenf, Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link
the first two tracks are great openers but after that yeah do what you feel. i haven't parsed any of the story at all.
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 9 June 2011 23:28 (twelve years ago) link
Initially disappointed that there's no Crooked Head here, and definitely not an album to listen to on headphones (ear fatigue!) but it's growing on me. After a bunch of listens, Ship of Fools definitely reminding me a lot of shoutier Archers of Loaf, and "Nostalgia" in particular, probably coincidence.
― dlp9001, Friday, 10 June 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
p. clearly album of the year material for me
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 02:54 (twelve years ago) link
huh never heard these dudes, i guess now is the time
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 04:15 (twelve years ago) link
oy, this is awesome
― thomp, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link
huh i was wondering how long it would take for god to come into it
― thomp, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 14:23 (twelve years ago) link
Pink Eye: We talk about God more on this record than a Christian band.
Are you religious?
Pink Eye: Not at all. Not. At. All.10,000 Marbles: We ran out of metaphors.Pink Eye: We exhausted all those metaphors about moshing and friends and the pit. So now we were like, "God, what’s left?”Concentration Camp: God!
(2006.)
― thomp, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 14:25 (twelve years ago) link
yeah the majority of the imagery and use of metaphor that Damian is kicking around on here is pretty much the same as what was on Hidden World and probably some stuff before that
― Beth Gibbons & Foreskin Man (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link
on 'chemistry' the majority of the lyrics are by 10,000 marbles, whose real name i do not know; i do not know, also, if this is the case for their other records
― thomp, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
they've had the metaphysical bent since hidden world at least
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
10,000 Marbles = Mike Haliechuk (sp.)
― Beth Gibbons & Foreskin Man (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
just started listening to this
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 00:47 (twelve years ago) link
'queen of hearts' is almost a little tailor-made for ~interests~
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 00:48 (twelve years ago) link
my interests
haahaha
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 03:25 (twelve years ago) link
i never disliked these guys - but i really am not enjoying "The Other Shoe".
― karma's ruthless invisible (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 03:34 (twelve years ago) link
I swear that the track "A Slanted Tone" is the hidden track on Husker's Zen Arcade. And it is a gem.
― Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Monday, 27 June 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
this is one of those recs where my favorite song is gonna change like 10 times. right now it's "running on nothing" for the 12-string guitar and the fact that it's straight up arena rock.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 June 2011 14:12 (twelve years ago) link
That's exactly what's happening for me. I still can't make it through the whole thing start to finish, but am also having trouble paying attention to any other albums (which all seem kind of pasty in comparison...)
― dlp9001, Thursday, 30 June 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
one of the major moments for me the last few times i've played this has been the outro on "remember my name" followed by the twenty-five or so seconds of acoustic respite before getting back into things
― my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 30 June 2011 21:28 (twelve years ago) link
holy wow at this album.
― Neanderthal, Saturday, 9 July 2011 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
Loving the "David's Town" compilation.
― Boehner & der club of GOP (Ówen P.), Sunday, 10 July 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
I just got my copy of David's Town (prices on eBay seem to have dropped pretty quickly) and was mildly disappointed that the packaging didn't go a little farther with the idea. Like I really wanted to be completely convinced that it was an artifact. And an insert would have been nice. Like maybe a fake "join our mailing list" for some non-existant label, etc. So much for that cheap thrill.
At the moment it's reminding me of any number of 90's indie comps that I don't remember anymore (not that there was anything wrong with them). And that's really not putting it down. You can kind of see how the need to contend w/Pink Eyes' voice is what brings out the best of this band, though, and it makes me wonder how future stuff without him might fare...
― dlp9001, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
...words of doomy portent
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 22:38 (twelve years ago) link
"F-word Up" love u Greg Kot
This is still so great.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
hahaha kot
― markers, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 21:54 (twelve years ago) link
saw them perform this whole album live, last night @ LPR. having never heard it before that, i bought it on vinyl after the show and... it's not quite as amazing as it was live.
― BringTheAuBonPain, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 23:52 (twelve years ago) link
Um, give it another day....
― dlp9001, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
you're probably right. i think my ears are still a bit fucked.
― BringTheAuBonPain, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 00:36 (twelve years ago) link
i's better in small doses
― Glo-Vember (dog latin), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 01:05 (twelve years ago) link
that queen of hearts song
― Treeship, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 01:21 (seven years ago) link
srsly
― imago, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 09:06 (seven years ago) link
tt just put Year Of The Snake on. my response: "if this had been the Ride comeback everyone would have been 'oh cool!'"
― an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Saturday, 1 April 2017 11:35 (seven years ago) link
that queen of hearts song― Treeship, Tuesday, November 1, 2016 9:21 PM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Treeship, Tuesday, November 1, 2016 9:21 PM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yup!
1.5 listens through “Dose Your Dreams” and I think it’s pretty great in that they went even more out-there-Fucked-Up. This made me want to hear their next album be like Killing Joke but fronted by Damian.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 01:43 (five years ago) link