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two months today until edwardo and I see them in Sydney Sex City!

― the man who forsook his wife for fap fap fap (sic), Thursday, May 26, 2011 8:13 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

hate u

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 27 May 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

Was going to say/ask:

Has Jarvis lost the bins/had a shave for this?

Mark G, Friday, 27 May 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

All these big festivals are fine but now it’s time to take things indoors ...
We’re very excited to announce a show of our own at
London’s O2 Brixton Academy on Wednesday 31 August 2011.

James Mitchell, Monday, 4 July 2011 10:42 (twelve years ago) link

There'll be three or four more of them announced when Brixton sells out in 30 seconds.

Matt DC, Monday, 4 July 2011 11:27 (twelve years ago) link

weird that yesterday didn't sell out at all though.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 4 July 2011 11:27 (twelve years ago) link

Text received last night:

"Watchinbg Pulp at Wireless. It's 'Different Class' plus other bits :( "

I concur... 'Different Class' put me off them completely after adoring 'His 'n' Hers'..which I still adore. I barely checked 'This Is Hardcore' but I did buy 'We Love Life' which I'm kind of meh about (and not on my own, I guess).

Not tempted by the reformation shows..and if they're doing mostly DC...I'd not be arsed at festivals either.

XP

Not that weird when you consider how damn expensive it was.

One Big Craigo, Full Of Bad Boingos (Craigo Boingo), Monday, 4 July 2011 11:33 (twelve years ago) link

went yesterday, & they sounded *great* but yes - too expensive, too much different class & too many drunken festival packs just out for a push and shout in a park.

you don't exist in the database (woof), Monday, 4 July 2011 11:39 (twelve years ago) link

Hmm. I didn't think the crowd was as bad as for Blur two years ago. Not quite so aggressively lary at least.

Pheeel, Monday, 4 July 2011 11:55 (twelve years ago) link

Where I was they weren't aggressive but fucking annoying. Singing along where appropriate is one thing, but accompanying every line (including instrumental parts) with high pitched yapping is quite another. Much more civilised crowd when I saw them in Barcelona.

Personally think 55 quid for a day ticket to a festival isn't too unreasonable.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 4 July 2011 12:06 (twelve years ago) link

Personally think 55 quid for a day ticket to a festival isn't too unreasonable.

Maybe. Day festivals tend to pitch lower than that I think don't they? Isn't Field Day about £30?

I smirked at a friend's comments yesterday:

Today Pulp are playing Hyde Park, in association with Barclaycard. £55.25 not including booking fee for the common people

Or £155.00 for the less common people. For this you get a private entrance away from the scum, a chill-out area and hot & cold BBQ platters

If you're not common at all, VIP tickets are £235.00. For this you also get a private bar and a special grandstand viewing area.

And from there, you can sing along: "you will never understand how it feels to live your lives with no meaning or control..."

One Big Craigo, Full Of Bad Boingos (Craigo Boingo), Monday, 4 July 2011 12:40 (twelve years ago) link

They get to sing along with the common people...

Mark G, Monday, 4 July 2011 12:44 (twelve years ago) link

Heh, they can do role playing between the areas. Awesome.

One Big Craigo, Full Of Bad Boingos (Craigo Boingo), Monday, 4 July 2011 12:45 (twelve years ago) link

That "VIP" enclosure towered over the area for disabled people, which I thought was a lovely touch.

Neil S, Monday, 4 July 2011 12:45 (twelve years ago) link

Not tempted by the reformation shows..and if they're doing mostly DC...I'd not be arsed at festivals either.

Russell's not coming to Australia, so be interesting to see if they play more Hardcore/Love tracks here.

They're also doing their only other two non-festival shows apart from the warm-up, so hoping very hard that they do the amount of pre-DC stuff from that setlist...

undeɹrated ærosm?th b∞tlegs I have pwned (sic), Monday, 4 July 2011 12:48 (twelve years ago) link

Field Day may be cheaper but it doesn't have headliners of the same level and is by all accounts the worst organised festival in Britain.

Heavily-skewed towards Different Class (and to a lesser extent His N Hers) but if you're going to play a limited number of comeback shows then why not draw heavily from the records people love the most?

Actually the epic This Is Hardcore -> Sunrise was one of the best bits about last night but I can't claim that I was holding out for much more from the last couple of albums.

Crowd were fine from where I was standing.

Matt DC, Monday, 4 July 2011 13:07 (twelve years ago) link

If you're not common at all, VIP tickets are £235.00. For this you also get a private bar and a special grandstand viewing area.

Was quite amusing to hear people singing "shit ground no fans" at that area.

Matt DC, Monday, 4 July 2011 13:08 (twelve years ago) link

Hmm. I didn't think the crowd was as bad as for Blur two years ago. Not quite so aggressively lary at least.

Didn't see Blur, so that's v possible, and I think maybe I was a bit unlucky with geezer-packs. Enjoyed it once we'd manouevred away a bit.

& upt011 otm, worst for me was a deafening version of Something Changed (verse, chorus, breaks) shrieked behind my left ear.

£55 is ok for a big-name day festival I guess (Field Day is £40) – I was just v hesitant to buy and grouchy because I was basically treating it as a one-band big gig.

you don't exist in the database (woof), Monday, 4 July 2011 13:08 (twelve years ago) link

Just to sicken all of you folk who went to wireless, amazingly I saw them last week at the St Martins College closing party, they played unnanounced in the common room in front of a few hundred. Was insane, one of the most magical gigs ive been at.
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All the London summer day fests are horrible, its all a bit 'dave from accounts has had an e'. Field day should be half the size and have half as many folk playing as its ran by chancers, i spent all of last year sitting outside tents struggling to hear what was going on. There was also about twice as many people there than there should be last year, the door staff were taking peoples tickets and touting them out the front

straightola, Monday, 4 July 2011 13:25 (twelve years ago) link

To be fair to Pulp, that VIP business, loathsome though it is, is standard for Wireless so I doubt the band had any say over it. Hyde Park events always have a high chattering-twat quota, getting worse with certain bands. I had to see Kings of Leon there for work and it was a real come-Armageddon-come moment.

Was it only Sunrise and This Is Hardcore from the last two albums? Love Sunrise - saw them on the We Love Life tour when they were also playing a krauted-up version of Common People and that was the highlight.

Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Monday, 4 July 2011 13:38 (twelve years ago) link

Yup, just those two. The rest of it was most of Different Class (+ Do You Remember The First Time, Babies, Pink Glove, Mile End).

you don't exist in the database (woof), Monday, 4 July 2011 13:53 (twelve years ago) link

OMG YOU PEOPLE GOT TO SEE PULP STOP COMPLAINING AND SHUT UP.

I am so jealous.

:(

hmpf

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 4 July 2011 13:55 (twelve years ago) link

ha! ok fair enough.

though we can all unite in jealousy at straightola.

you don't exist in the database (woof), Monday, 4 July 2011 13:57 (twelve years ago) link

xpost
twice iirc.

and as they're now playing at the bottom of my road at the end of august, i'll prob go to that as well. if i've nothing else on.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 4 July 2011 13:58 (twelve years ago) link

hate u

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 4 July 2011 13:59 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah ignore the whingers, gig was amazing. It's not even like the crowd was particularly dense so if ppl were being knobs I'm sure you could've moved.

Matt DC, Monday, 4 July 2011 13:59 (twelve years ago) link

OMG YOU PEOPLE GOT TO SEE PULP STOP COMPLAINING AND SHUT UP.

I am so jealous.

:(

hmpf

― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 4 July 2011 14:55 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

^^ This - I've already missed my chance this summer :-(

Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Monday, 4 July 2011 14:01 (twelve years ago) link

:(

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 4 July 2011 14:03 (twelve years ago) link

that is, i was there in body but not in spirit as I spent nearly the whole of their Primavera set queuing for water for sunstroked g/f.

Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Monday, 4 July 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link

humph!

Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Monday, 4 July 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, i've been venting but nob-force were escapable & took up <10% of my time - it was great, & i was in a total transport of joy at various points. Sorry enbb

you don't exist in the database (woof), Monday, 4 July 2011 14:06 (twelve years ago) link

Seriously guys, we North Americans will KICK YOUR ASSES :)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 4 July 2011 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

stfu, they toured America heaps of times

come oonnnn

2nd set

1. O.U. (Gone, Gone)
2. Countdown
3. Joyriders
4. His 'n' Hers
5. Acrylic Afternoons
6. Mis-Shapes

undeɹrated ærosm?th b∞tlegs I have pwned (sic), Monday, 4 July 2011 14:11 (twelve years ago) link

I came late to the party (1996) but I can only think of ~one~ time I was able to see them in Toronto (if bands come to Canada, 95% of the time there is a Toronto stop). I had to go to Reading to see them!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 4 July 2011 14:24 (twelve years ago) link

I thought they only toured America three times (and made it to the West Coast only twice -- 94, opening for Blur, 96, small club show).

Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 July 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah the Toronto show I saw would have been.. 98? Man, opening for Blur, that would have been my dream show. Alas.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 4 July 2011 14:50 (twelve years ago) link

oh man at least you got to see them

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 4 July 2011 14:50 (twelve years ago) link

We'll use Mind Powers to get them back on our continent. COME, PULP, COME!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 4 July 2011 14:52 (twelve years ago) link

YES!!

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 4 July 2011 14:54 (twelve years ago) link

Man, opening for Blur, that would have been my dream show. Alas.

Pulp blew 'em off the stage that night for sure. I still remember Jarvis introducing this new song of theirs and six minutes later after "Common People" ended the room was practically exploding. (This would have been about six months prior to the single release.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 July 2011 14:57 (twelve years ago) link

I thought they only toured America three times

300% is heaps more in my book

undeɹrated ærosm?th b∞tlegs I have pwned (sic), Monday, 4 July 2011 14:59 (twelve years ago) link

Ned, I could definitely see it. Damon was a fairly entertaining frontman but Jarvis was a MASTER, I can definitely imagine them blowing Blur away.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 4 July 2011 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

This is reminding me to check out more Pulp besides the HNH/DC/TIH triumverate. I used to have a comp of early stuff on a taped library copy - this was YEARS ago now. Also We Love Life is supposedly ace according to my mate.

Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Monday, 4 July 2011 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

Yes WLL is excellent IMO, Scott Walker's production is immaculate.

Neil S, Monday, 4 July 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

I played it a lot at the time, yes.

Mark G, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 00:00 (twelve years ago) link

The last time they played the States was 1998...13 years...entire generations (like me) have grown up, gone to college, discovered Pulp, lived their lives, etc. in that time period...would murder to see them live. Saw Jarvis solo once and it was spectacular, but clearly a shadow of what it could/should have been. Seems ludicrous a band of that size/influence only played in America a handful of times.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 06:03 (twelve years ago) link

Back in the day Jarvis said it was a waste of time touring as a niche band in the US/Canada when they could be playing to tens of thousands back home/doing tv shows etc.

everything, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 13:20 (twelve years ago) link

And if I recall correctly, he had put a limit on how many gigs he was willing to do on a tour here. Something like five shows. That made it financially unsupportable.

everything, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 13:21 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

last night they opened with: Do You Remember, Countdown, Lipgloss, OU (Gone Gone), Have You Seen Her Lately

I was pretty excited. Pulp are the best band of all the bands.

Jamie_ATP, Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:44 (twelve years ago) link

Very classic last night. The final pre-encore stretch of Babies, This Is Hardcore, Sunrise, Bar Italia and Common People was astounding (the middle three all, I realised, about the consequences of hedonism). Despite all the funny between-song chat, what strikes me now, far more than in the 90s, is the jealousy, revenge and all-round emotional desperation rather than the wit. The atmosphere was celebratory but the songs are fraught and sinister. They felt necessary, which is how any worthwhile reunion should feel.

Also liked Jarvis introducing Common People with Eldridge Cleaver's problem/solution quote because it was Cleaver's birthday yesterday.

Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:49 (twelve years ago) link


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