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fuck that shit, what about the bells?

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link

i would also love a baseball equivalent of the champions league.

This would kick ass, but how many countries have functionalm, successful baseball leagues?

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 22:16 (eighteen years ago) link

So the DR moves on and Venezuela goes home. And Mexico (barring a tiebreaker where everyone except Korea is 1-2) is probably also going home.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 03:12 (eighteen years ago) link

it should be the American team going home... err... they're already home!

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 04:50 (eighteen years ago) link

South Korea highlights in their 7-3 victory over USA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAAbZ95-p_M&feature=Views&page=5&t=t&f=b

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 14:22 (eighteen years ago) link

US lowlights in the same game (including JETER ERRORS!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuKGDoKLesY

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 14:26 (eighteen years ago) link

JETER BOOTS

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link

re: potential champs league

dominican, venezuelan, puerto rican, mexican, japanese all have functional leagues, right? what about korea, italy and greece?

i mean for the lesser leagues you could maybe have play ins...i mean, to take the champs league analogy further, i don't think the bulgarian squads that make it in are expected to do really do anything but be a punching bag for the 5th place premier league club that has to play in, but hey...

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 14:51 (eighteen years ago) link

what about korea, italy and greece?

Yes, the Korean squad (5-0, undefeated in the WBC) has a functional league!

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Is anybody else watching this?

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 16 March 2006 04:14 (eighteen years ago) link

What happened in the 7th inning of the Cuba/PR game? I saw that Cuba's manager got tossed!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 16 March 2006 04:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Arguing a call at 2nd base.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 16 March 2006 04:43 (eighteen years ago) link

This is an amazing series. Korea beat Japan 2-1 at the Tokyo Dome last week.

JB Lee just hit a 2-RBI double and got called out at third, breaking the 0-0 tie in the top of the 8th.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 16 March 2006 05:22 (eighteen years ago) link

What a fan atmosphere at the Japan-Korea game! I'm not shocked by it or anything, but it's an amazing thing to watch.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 16 March 2006 05:30 (eighteen years ago) link

S. Korea are like the ChiSox of the WBC. Nobody gave them a chance and they completely wiped the floor with their opponents.

7 hits + 5 walks over 8 complete innings = a combined WHIP of 0.75 so far...

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 16 March 2006 05:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Japan is not laying down... homerun to lead off the 9th!!! 2-1!

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 16 March 2006 05:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Mastumaka's epic at-bat!!!

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 16 March 2006 05:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Whoa that was a long foul ball.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 16 March 2006 05:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow Korea who'da thunk it.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 16 March 2006 05:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Dude he is PLANTING THE KOREAN FLAG IN THE MOUND.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 16 March 2006 05:58 (eighteen years ago) link

6 and 0. The only team to score more than 2 runs against them was Team USA (in garbage time, yay A-Rod!)

vs. Taiwan: 2 - 0
vs. China: 10-1
vs. Japan: 3-2
vs. Mexico: 2-1
vs. USA: 8-3
vs. Japan: 2-1

Ha, those 1 run games are also reminscent of the ChiSox...

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 16 March 2006 06:00 (eighteen years ago) link

What the hell wheaties are the Koreans eating?

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 16 March 2006 06:45 (eighteen years ago) link

So you think Rocket comes back to MLB if he is somehow ignominiously defeated by Mexico?

Larry speaks:

"The tiebreaker is bogus. I don't agree with that," [Chipper] said. "I would change that . . . Knock it down to two flights. Do like a double-elimination thing. Have the winners of the two flights play in San Diego."

In all, however, Jones has greatly enjoyed his WBC experience and would recommend it to those who opted not to participate. He most of all liked being the teammate of Roger Clemens, whom he described as "more like Jesus than I thought."

"He's got worldwide respect," Jones said of Clemens. "He's like EF Hutton. When he speaks, people listen."


http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/ny-spusa164664148mar16,0,7465388.story?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 March 2006 14:19 (eighteen years ago) link

"more like Jesus than I thought"!!! :o :o :o
http://tspweb02.tsp.utexas.edu/webarchive/10-24-00/Images/10-24clemens.colorsub.jpg

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 16 March 2006 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I think that is Chipper's very awkward way of saying Clemens isn't the asshole he'd always imagined him to be.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 16 March 2006 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link

That's very akward!
Lets just compaire:That's very awkward indeed!
Lets just compare:
http://www.sportsbettingindex.net/images/sports_01/RogerClemens.jpg http://www.sofc.org/HOMEPAGE/jesushead.gif

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 16 March 2006 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link

"He's got worldwide respect," Jones said of Clemens. "He's like EF Hutton. When he speaks, people listen."

This quote is even weirder.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 16 March 2006 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Not if yer old enough to remember the EF Hutton TV ads (circa...'78?)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 March 2006 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link

jesus was a carpenter, so throwing the bat wood sort of makes sense.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 16 March 2006 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link

WBC scenarios

USA advances with a win or tie or 1-0 loss.

But here's what else we know:

If USA scores, MEX is eliminated.
MEX can only advance with a 3-0 or 4-0 win in 13 or 14 innings.
If MEX scores more than two runs (before the 13th), JPN will advance unless USA wins.
If MEX scores more than three runs, JPN advances unless USA wins (or MEX wins 4-0 – see above).
If MEX scores exactly two runs – and makes fewer than two out in bottom of ninth – JPN advances unless USA wins.
If MEX scores exactly two runs – including the winning run with two out in the bottom of the ninth – USA and JPN are tied with 5 runs allowed in 17 2/3 innings. One of JPN's runs is unearned (ERA is the next tiebreaker).
So:
• If both MEX runs are earned, JPN advances.
• If both MEX runs are unearned, USA advances.
• If one MEX run is earned, then JPN and USA must break tie with batting average in games between teams. JPN is 20 for 65 (.305). USA was 12 for 36 (.333) vs. JPN.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 17 March 2006 01:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't get your calculations. If the US loses they are out. Period. There is no way they can allow less runs than Japan allowed (7) since they have already allowed 10 going into this game.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 March 2006 02:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay I found where you found that, but I can't for the life of me understand it. I thought straight runs allowed was the tiebreaker.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 March 2006 03:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah Shasta I think that info is already out of date somehow because Jon Miller just said team USA will be out if they lose and I would trust Jon Miller with my life.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 17 March 2006 03:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, but I think that may be because it's already 2-1 before the bottom of the 9th so if the US loses 2-1 they will have only played 8 innings of defense. I guess it's only common games that matter in the tiebreaker (which seems weird frankly.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 March 2006 03:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Ah!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 17 March 2006 03:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Fireworks over field = pretty silly when neither team is advancing.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 17 March 2006 03:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Dude I just realized this is probably the sickest, most awesome final group imaginable, both for regional rivalries and quality of play:

JP
KOR

DR
CUB

Oh my god!! I mean that is just awesome. Especially given the two games already played btween KOR and JP. That humiliated arrogance on Ichiro's face.

And DR vs CUB!!! The victory cigars will be pretty sweet regardless of which clubhouse is smoking them.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 17 March 2006 03:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I am trying to watch replay of CUB/PR and the wbc site feed brings up "hockey tonight" ERRRR

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 17 March 2006 03:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I am very excited about this final four.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 17 March 2006 03:53 (eighteen years ago) link

That humiliated arrogance on Ichiro's face.

Japan got another shitty call when a fan intefered with a foul ball close to the stands. The next pitch was the game wining single.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 17 March 2006 04:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Speaking of:

Mexico took a 1-0 lead off Clemens in the third on a leadoff double by Mario Valenzuela and a two-out single by Jorge Cantu.

But it wasn't that simple.

A television replay showed Valenzuela's fly ball hit the right field foul pole at least 10 feet off the ground and bounced back onto the field. However, first base umpire Bob Davidson didn't see it that way, and Valenzuela wound up at second.

It was Davidson, umpiring behind the plate, who ruled that Japan's Tsuyoshi Nishioka left third base early in the eighth inning Sunday to negate a sacrifice fly that would have snapped a 3-3 tie in a game Team USA eventually won 4-3.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 17 March 2006 04:57 (eighteen years ago) link

That's some classy non-biased umpiring, yeah.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 March 2006 06:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Jeter's bat-on-shoulder K ending the 8th HAHAHAHAHAHA

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 March 2006 14:22 (eighteen years ago) link

How long until the US tanking it is blamed on A-Rod only hitting .400 for the tourney?

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 17 March 2006 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I already read on the gay sports BB that it's cuz NO ONE PLAYS FOR ANYTHING BUT A PAYCHECK!

They should alter the jersey to read "US OF A" just like Sutcliffe the Talking Dog kept saying it.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 March 2006 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I have a feeling there will be different umps if this ever happens again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruK3uvGMg1U&feature=Views&page=2&t=t&f=b

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 17 March 2006 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link

U SOFA

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 17 March 2006 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link

so that was the same ump who botched the call the other day? it's funny that the article above even says "tv replays revealed..." that was a pretty clear homer at first blush, even.

wrt team usa, i'd say: i like buck martinez in the booth okay, but he wasn't such a hot mgr. would it make more sense to tilt the roster towards dudes that play in offseason leagues or try to do more international comps? clearly, there were some issues in the field.

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Friday, 17 March 2006 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link

like what?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 17 March 2006 17:37 (eighteen years ago) link


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