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Anyway, I really have to hand it to Adele. I can't think of many other artists who seem equally beloved by teenage pop fans and older AAA listeners. Early prediction: "Rolling in the Deep" will be #1 on Pazz and Jop's 2011 singles.

jaymc, Thursday, 26 May 2011 13:03 (six years ago) Permalink

anyway i see nothing wrong with someone pointing out some of the crappier/most superficial/vacuous things dominating pop music in 2011. what lex likes and backs at all costs is ruling the roost, so adele IS something of an anomaly in mainstream pop terms and someone offering opposition to that is never a bad thing.

Except you're not really doing anything except saying "mainstream pop is vacuous" without actually offering any examples, which is basically what people have been doing for as long as I can remember. I don't think you really understand what the Lex is saying given that, by and large, he wouldn't describe much of the music he likes as vacuous (afaik his favourite record this year is Let England Shake, so he certainly not backing "vacuous pop" against everything else).

In any case I'm not really sure there's much point further dissecting something Lex has already admitted was an off-the-cuff response to a JPG that was doing the rounds.

Matt DC, Thursday, 26 May 2011 13:10 (six years ago) Permalink

Early prediction: "Rolling in the Deep" will be #1 on Pazz and Jop's 2011 singles.

― jaymc, Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:03 AM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

i have a vague gut feeling that it won't be, but only in the sense that there's 7 months ahead for something else to give it competition, it's definitely a lock for top 3

gargle on my nuts (some dude), Thursday, 26 May 2011 13:20 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah number 3 feels right.

Tim F, Thursday, 26 May 2011 13:22 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah, she was talking about chart pop, not a new argument for sure, but one thats not un valid right now, even if adele isnt being specific

i mean, popstars are often not that articulate in this sort of thing, even rappers ('rockist' on all sorts of levels, without wanting 'real instruments' or anything like that) arent always pinpoint specific when they criticise other artists, doesnt mean theres no truth to what theyre saying

ive not read lexs full post, just saying that great, he likes pj harvey, but the stuff i often see him defending to the death is not like let england shake, but i dont want to make this all about lex, so yeah, lets not go down that route

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 26 May 2011 13:28 (six years ago) Permalink

i'm glad she remembers herself cuz i didn't even know she had a new album out


teledyldonix, Thursday, 26 May 2011 15:49 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh BTW...

maura johnston
facepalm. MT @ToureX: Gaga & Adele are a very interesting pop culture dichotomy. A full on character vs authenticity.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 May 2011 16:09 (six years ago) Permalink

Wouldn't argue about the artifice of Gaga, surely that's the point. It's the authenticity of Adele that gets the eyeroll.

Matt DC, Thursday, 26 May 2011 16:38 (six years ago) Permalink

Makes me think - is the idea of authenticity now so degraded that applying it to anyone would get the eyeroll? I think it's always been problematic and it's got to the point where I never ever want to see it used without scare quotes. I think Adele's appeal could fairly be described as "authenticity" rather than authenticity.

We need to talk about Bevan (DL), Thursday, 26 May 2011 16:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Why "authenticity", though? Why not "simplicity", since the essence of her performance ethos is "girl with big voice sings at u"?

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Thursday, 26 May 2011 16:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Are you asking me or Toure? I used "authenticity" because however unreal and misleading that concept is in mainstream pop, Adele is clearly satisfying a craving for the "genuine", "unadorned", "real", "organic", etc. I think a lot of that genuinely comes from her personality and music taste but there's an element of calculation in the presentation - the black-and-white sleeve, the choice of which influences to foreground. For example, she's a massive Mary J Blige and Lauryn Hill fan but you can't hear any hip hop in 21. Not that it's as shamelessly "authentic" as the first Joss Stone album.

We need to talk about Bevan (DL), Thursday, 26 May 2011 17:03 (six years ago) Permalink

you can hear R&B in there, its obv from her singing style, its just contained in more of a capital fm listenership-pleasing aesthetic. shes a much more... AUTHENTIC singer than joss stone in any case. much more natural/unoforced. even though i think shes still figuring out how to best control/use her voice.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 27 May 2011 08:20 (six years ago) Permalink

her general pose re: authenticity/being ordinary etc tbh reminds me of plan b more than anyone else

lot of similarities

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 27 May 2011 08:21 (six years ago) Permalink

Really? Plan B plays on artifice - the whole Strickland Banks persona, the shifting genres. All they have in common is that they're white working-class Londoners - and both funny and candid - so maybe their personalities signify "authenticity".

We need to talk about Bevan (DL), Friday, 27 May 2011 08:35 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah, the whole 'no bullshit, i tell it like it is, i dont care about sugarcoating my opinion' thing is def a big common thing. and the whole MOR sound in spite of that 'tude is also something they share. there were some other things too but my minds preoccupied.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 27 May 2011 08:42 (six years ago) Permalink

Am I the only one who liked the first album better? At least judging from the songs that I've heard from the new one, they seem kind of over-arranged to me. I liked the more spare arrangements on _19_. Also "Chasing Pavements" > "Rolling in the Deep".

o. nate, Friday, 27 May 2011 20:59 (six years ago) Permalink

"XL's Richard Russell blames 'boring, crass and unoriginal' music on industry's over-sexualisation of female artists"

good thing we discussed all of this in advance of anyone saying it.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Monday, 30 May 2011 21:01 (six years ago) Permalink

'A success, in pop, is never just a success – it's always ready to be spun into a triumph for some wider force.'
says Tom Ewing

piscesx, Friday, 3 June 2011 16:42 (six years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

i miss when novelty hits were novel

51 suggest gang (The Reverend), Sunday, 19 June 2011 09:58 (six years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

damn "Someone Like You" is depressing as shit.. I think I like this.

billstevejim, Friday, 30 September 2011 20:16 (six years ago) Permalink

it has a new video.. this was my first time hearing this song

billstevejim, Friday, 30 September 2011 20:18 (six years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

great cover of rolling:

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Thursday, 2 February 2012 10:36 (five years ago) Permalink

Tell us a little about how “Rolling in the Deep” came about.

A. I had all these chords I thought would be perfect for her. You know, little musical riffs or themes. I tried all these out on her for about two hours. She literally sat there with a pen in her hand staring blankly, and she just went, “I’m not feeling anything.” And then she went, “I’ve got this riff, this idea, that’s going round and round my head,” and I went, “Go on then, what is it?” And she went, [sings] “There’s a fire.”

I said wow, and I just grabbed a guitar and quickly tried to figure out what the key was. She had all the verses, that thematic melody that she uses all through the song. I put all the verses down as one long recording, and then we put spaces in the track to start work on a prechorus and a chorus. We wrote the core of the song — her verses and the chords — in under 15 minutes. And the rest of it was structured over two hours.

curmudgeon, Friday, 10 February 2012 14:01 (five years ago) Permalink

Q. Her vocal track that you recorded that day for a demo ended up on the album. Why didn’t you redo it?

A. Adele was going through something. She had had her heart broken, and she was in pieces, and you can really hear that, her anger and her sadness. Sometimes I just don’t think you can recreate that or fake it. My hunch is that we captured something in her vocal performance that was going to be very hard to recreate

curmudgeon, Friday, 10 February 2012 14:03 (five years ago) Permalink

spare us a tenner til Monday?

piscesx, Thursday, 16 February 2012 19:52 (five years ago) Permalink

the headline "Adele shows off her new £7 million, 10-bedroom mansion in new video" makes it sound like the Hype Williams-directed clip for the Swizz Beatz remix of her new single takes place in her mansion

CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Thursday, 16 February 2012 19:55 (five years ago) Permalink


The Reverend, Thursday, 16 February 2012 20:14 (five years ago) Permalink

French paper publishing Adele sextape tomorrow. Skeezy.

zappi, Thursday, 16 February 2012 23:58 (five years ago) Permalink

does anyone really wanna see that lol

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 February 2012 23:59 (five years ago) Permalink

yes. yes i do.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Friday, 17 February 2012 01:07 (five years ago) Permalink

god, the leaked pic is disturbing enough. not sure if I'm gonna be able to watch it.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 17 February 2012 01:59 (five years ago) Permalink

that's a still from a sex tape

illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 February 2012 02:02 (five years ago) Permalink


illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 February 2012 02:04 (five years ago) Permalink

une sextape

buzza, Friday, 17 February 2012 03:11 (five years ago) Permalink

yes, supposedly it's a still from the sextape. adele's image is ruined for me now.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 17 February 2012 03:17 (five years ago) Permalink

Can't believe L'Académie française has not come up with a word for "sex tape."

A Full Torgo Apparition (Phil D.), Friday, 17 February 2012 11:31 (five years ago) Permalink

In other news, she's been moaning about paying tax again, hasn't she?

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 17 February 2012 12:47 (five years ago) Permalink

somebody linked me this pic, but Adele really isn't the highlight:

plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Friday, 17 February 2012 12:52 (five years ago) Permalink

lmfaooo. i wish this were real

teledyldonix, Friday, 17 February 2012 17:34 (five years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

Looking forward to the celebration-of-motherhood album then.

boxedjoy, Saturday, 30 June 2012 15:11 (five years ago) Permalink

Adele's pregnant, man her next album is gonna suuuuuuuuck

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 30 June 2012 16:16 (five years ago) Permalink

I didn't realize Adele is younger than I am!

mississippi joan hart (crüt), Saturday, 30 June 2012 16:27 (five years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

Regarding the decline of the music industry thread elsewhere, it might be interesting to discuss "21". As in, why did this particular album actually go on to sell in numbers otherwise unheard of in the 2010s? Not being on Spotify until 2013-ish may have helped, surely? And appealing to a somewhat older audience? But, really, 30 million copies (probably even more as this is the sales by 2014). That is just so enormously much more than anything else released in the 10s. So why?

The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 00:46 (two years ago) Permalink

tristan wilds' biggest role since the wire tbh

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 19:51 (two years ago) Permalink

new song firmly in my head :/

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:14 (two years ago) Permalink

Because grandmas and old women like Adele and they don't stream or download.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:16 (two years ago) Permalink

it's pretty fucking dreary

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:17 (two years ago) Permalink

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