Worst Dylan Songs -- sez TIME Magazine

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i'm not nuts about it on hwy 61, but the live versions from live 66 & bootlegs from that tour are unbelievable.

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

xpost: that's a good way to put it.

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

god, I just remembered what a fucking coffin that Dylan cover album recorded by Ferry was. He could've sung "Señor" or "Going Going Gone" yet he chooses "To Make You Feel My Love" and "Positively Fourth Street."

there's a terrible Dylan song: "To Make You Feel My Love," so anonymous that Garth and Billy Joel had to sing it in the same year.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

Ballad of a Thin Man is pretty annoying but sometimes I endure it by imagining as being about a closeted gay guy

metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

ugh, 'to make you feel my love' is wretched. stick that on my list in place of 'lily, rosemary...'

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

He did the Anonymous Piano Ballad better on "I'll Remember You" and "Emotionally Yours."

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

According to my Dylanophile friend's radio show:

3. If Dogs Run Free (New Morning)
2. Man Gave Names to All the Animals (Slow Train Coming)
1. Wiggle Wiggle (Under the Red Sky)

Virginia Plain, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

god, I just remembered what a fucking coffin that Dylan cover album recorded by Ferry was.

I love that album! Yeah, it wasn't some profound exploration of the Dylan songbook, it was a dude running his live band through a bunch of chestnuts - irreverent but loving, I almost want to call it a sequel to Before The Flood.

da croupier, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

alfred you were so otm in this thread and then you had to hate "sad eyed lady" ;_;

horseshoe, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

i could do without "just like a woman" which i gather is pretty challopsy

horseshoe, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

i wouldn't lose a single song on blonde on blonde.

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

'rainy day women' and 'leopard-skin pillbox hat' are the only ones i ever skip on that album -- i used to find them funny but boy does the joke get old when you actually have to LISTEN to them every time you put the album on.

tho i actually love most of the 'comedy' numbers on the earlier albums, like '115th dream' and the one where he doesn't want to let barry goldwater move in next door and marry his daughter.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

i could do without "just like a woman" which i gather is pretty challopsy

It's a dumber song than "Sad Eyed Lady...," which is just long.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

so dumb!

horseshoe, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

All the Tired Horses is one of my top 10 Dylan songs >:(

y'all just like a woman haters are nuts.

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link

i love "leopard-skin pill-box hat". "just like a woman" is pretty bad. "ballad in plain d" is The Worst.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 21:25 (twelve years ago) link

but i'd never get rid of it because i'd never want to live in a world without that last verse which is so spectacularly beyond parody.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 21:26 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not that big on "Pillbox" either--because of the sound, not because it's jokey (again, love "Rainy Day Women"). Like "Just Like a Woman" a lot (it's about Edie Sedgwick, right?), although I think "She Belongs to Me" is even better.

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 21:26 (twelve years ago) link

i like that pillbox has the same doctor-steals-girlfriend plot in one verse as l. cohen's "one of us cannot be wrong". maybe this is a common trope i am unaware of?

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

also

YOU KNOW IT BALANCES ON YOUR HEAD JUST LIKE A
MATTRESS BALANCESONABOTTLEOFWI-UH-IIINNNEEEE

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

That's a good line, yes.

Mark G, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

anyway the "comedy" early dylan songs are usually the least callow and most moving. "talkin john birch society blues" is worth a billion "masters of war"s or (worse) "with god on our side"s. as he got older he learned to be funny more often, like most people.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

and "love and theft" is the funniest.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

I will turn my eyes into narrow slits if I meet any so-called Dylan fan who won't accept L&T's awesomeness.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

it's the easiest good album to warm up to.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

special place in my heart for it too because it was the first dylan album to come out when i was an active dylan fan. i would have bought it the day it came out except as you may recall there was a distraction; i'm sure i got it that week though. cheered me right up.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 21:43 (twelve years ago) link

I mean do I really want to listen to Froggy Went a Courtin...

― metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 17:33 (4 hours ago)

Peter Buck swears by "Froggy", sez it's scary as hell...

pax raggetta (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

funny, i kinda love "Sad Eyed" because it's so interminable. like when you say a word over and over and it starts to sound funny and lose its meaning.

ryan, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 22:31 (twelve years ago) link

Narrow away. It's not that I don't "accept" Love & Theft's awesomeness--are we talking about an album here, or the theory of evolution?--it's that it doesn't appeal to me personally, for the reason I've already indicated: I simply do not like the way he sings anymore. It doesn't matter to me if the words or the jokes are great (I'm sure they are), and it doesn't matter if you can come up with a well-crafted explanation of how that voice suits that particular set of songs. If you don't like a voice, you don't like a voice. It's music. As they saying goes, he could have sung the phone book in 1965, and there's approximately a 93% chance I would have loved it.

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

You know we're joking, right? If you don't like it, cool. Hyperbole is what one does on a message board.

You are a vile person, however, if you admit to loving "Joey."

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

Oh yeah, I know. It was the "so-called" that pressed a button.

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 22:52 (twelve years ago) link

"Just Like A Woman" is an amazing song, particularly the version on Live 1966, amongst my five favorite Dylan moments: he sounds so alien, fragile, predatory, as though his cruelty is the only thing preventing him from blowing away like a piece of trash. His pronunciation of "aches" in the chorus turns that word into onomatopoeia. And there's a lovely bridge too, which I think is pretty rare for Dylan in those days?

Euler, Thursday, 26 May 2011 03:09 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know Dylan's records post Desire much at all, but "If Dogs Run Free" is one that I will usually skip on New Morning mostly as the scat singing doesn't really fit.

earlnash, Thursday, 26 May 2011 03:20 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, dylan singing the bridge to just like a woman on live 66 is top 10 dylan moments for me. one of those things where it's hard to believe he's standing in front of several thousand people. dude is practically whispering. in a lot of ways that acoustic set is more out there and radical than anything he and the hawks did.

tylerw, Thursday, 26 May 2011 04:05 (twelve years ago) link

yeah I love the acoustic set of that show more than just about everything. The chorus too of that take on Just Like A Woman, the twists in his voice on the last line make the cuts even worse, like he's grinding in his jab.

Euler, Thursday, 26 May 2011 04:35 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 26 May 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 27 May 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

I had the lasagna.

Euler, Saturday, 28 May 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

Most poll results more or less make sense to me; this is the occasional #1 that really does mystify me.

clemenza, Saturday, 28 May 2011 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

yeah - only seven people, but it is funny. the lead track on what is generally considered the guy's masterpiece (at least a top five career record) is the worst song he's ever written?

tylerw, Saturday, 28 May 2011 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

And an actual #2 hit single from a moment in time when Dylan ruled the entire universe--I almost wish I were about five years older, so I could know what it felt like to turn on the radio in 1966 and hear "Rainy Day Women." It (and "Stuck Inside of Memphis," and even "Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat," which as I said upthread I don't care for) seem so crucial to the coloration of Blonde on Blonde--if they weren't there for balance, "Visions of Johanna" and "Sad-Eyed Lady" would be diminished.

clemenza, Saturday, 28 May 2011 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

Leopard is a highlight, such a lewd performance, like the dark comic heart of the album (even Johanna's a joke but Sad Eyed isn't so I can get thinking it a bad fit, though I still love it).

Euler, Saturday, 28 May 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link

i mean, i get not liking rainy day women to some extent -- it's kind of the go-to song to make fun of dylan if you hate bob dylan. and i've probably not been crazy about it at times. but actually, getting into the nashville scene at the time has made me appreciate RDW more as an example of session dudes gone haywire, sort of the ultimate after hours nashville weird scene.
& yeah, leopard skin pillbox is great, i even love dylan's mangled opening lead guitar line. version on no direction home is out of this world, too.

tylerw, Saturday, 28 May 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

sit around in a room full of boring throwback twats playing "Rainy Day Women" on a loop and giggling at how hilarious they are and you soon find out why this is the worst song ever

Deeez Nuuults (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 May 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

ha, well, yeah, that sounds bad. but couldn't that be any song?

tylerw, Saturday, 28 May 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

it has to be some annoying shit about "teehee he said 'stoned'" i think

Deeez Nuuults (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 May 2011 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, sorry, speaking as someone who discovered Classic Dylan in '93: "Stuck Inside of Mobile..." and "I Want You" were much better introductions than fucking "Rainy Day Women."

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 May 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link

rightfully "Tight Connection..." got no votes.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 May 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

gonna bet that a lot of these got no votes because barely anyone has really heard them. rainy day women on the other hand .... everyone's heard that.

tylerw, Saturday, 28 May 2011 23:36 (twelve years ago) link


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