who is the american popol vuh

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAWRyEbQfXg

am0n, Sunday, 22 May 2011 05:07 (twelve years ago) link

NOT AMERICAN

one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 23 May 2011 00:19 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

this question is flawed but for a reasonable facsimile of the herz au glass/heart of glass guitar/drum sound and song structure, this lanterna song comes about as close as i've heard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NSJcuJQM4o

the album cover even looks like guitar-era PV
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51aOCZ4yRfL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

sweat pea (La Lechera), Sunday, 1 December 2013 16:36 (ten years ago) link

For more female vocal focus + the darker side of PV, i think this cover of a traditional Greek song has a PV-like feel
https://soundcloud.com/casualacidtearecordings/greece-kaike-ena-sholio-by

and that's all I've found so far!

sweat pea (La Lechera), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xB3eVOSgBA

^ Mountains

exciting vampire castle (NickB), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link

La Lechera, you might like this mix that Koen from Mountains put together:

http://secretthirteen.org/secret-thirteen-mix-084-koen-holtkamp/

exciting vampire castle (NickB), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 21:20 (ten years ago) link

Thx! I'll check it out :)

sweat pea (La Lechera), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 21:24 (ten years ago) link

Some of Steven R. Smith's stuff verges on Popol Vuh. Ulaan Khol's numbered albums specifically.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4XTU8rl7qg

Gets fairly noisy but reminds me of the early PV stuff and a little of the heart of glass soundtrack.

Some of that Espers II album reminded me of PV, only listened to it once or twice mind. First PV album I ever heard was "Bruder des Schattens" (this was years ago, pre-internet, when I knew nothing about anything) and I remember thinking it had a sort of Velvet Underground vibe about it! But then I thought the same about Steeleye Span the first time I heard them (and they definitely reminded me of Popol Vuh also!)

Saturated with working class intelligence and not afraid to show it (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 09:53 (ten years ago) link

Hmm, Espers II doesn't have a PV feel for me at all -- I like it, but not the same. Did anyone listen to that Lanterna song? It really sounds like PV!
I dled that mix-- not surprised to see Peter Michael Hamel in there!

Who is Ulaan Khol? Around 3:45 it really starts going! Def looking into that one.

sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 14:28 (ten years ago) link

Ulaan Khol is Steven R Smith who does stuff under lots of different names but mostly as an associate of the Jewelled Antler guys I think. I have some Steven R Smith stuff and some Hala Strana, but I don't really know his other things.

exciting vampire castle (NickB), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link

Just listening to Lanterna now and yes, I see what you mean. Sounds a bit like earlier Black Sun Ensemble too, that kind of a mystical desert vibe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf47pWO5sjc

exciting vampire castle (NickB), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link

This BSE song is a bit Popol Vuh-y actually:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXLHNxxq0JM

exciting vampire castle (NickB), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 14:54 (ten years ago) link

so is most of steven r smith's stuff like this or just that one? i just googled and it didn't really bring up a whole lot of useful info outside of this http://worstward.bandcamp.com/ <--- this is all him right?

sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 14:58 (ten years ago) link

that's him alright, he's quite a productive guy!

exciting vampire castle (NickB), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 15:00 (ten years ago) link

ooooh that BSE song is good!

sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 15:00 (ten years ago) link

of all those srs things I have 'autumn is the end' which i remember enjoying and 'these villages' by hala strana which has more of an eastern european folk vibe iirc

exciting vampire castle (NickB), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link

ned is the main bse man around here btw, i kind of went off them once the main guy started singing on all their records

exciting vampire castle (NickB), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link

that one s/t album with the goldfish on the front is 100% classic though

exciting vampire castle (NickB), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 15:07 (ten years ago) link

ok thx!

sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link

guaranteed terrible vocal-free, just fiddle and guitar and the endless vastness of space

exciting vampire castle (NickB), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 15:11 (ten years ago) link

doesn't seem to be easily found online but discogs have the vinyl for cheap:
http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?release_id=1324143&ev=rb

exciting vampire castle (NickB), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 15:20 (ten years ago) link

i'm listening to autumn is the end and wow, so good
QUESTION -- are there albums where he (SRS) plays with drums?

sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link

pretty sure hala strana has drums, but i am so not an expert on this guy

exciting vampire castle (NickB), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link

ok can confirm -- hala strana def has drums. this guy is awesome!

sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 15:41 (ten years ago) link

Love Hala Strana.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 16:51 (ten years ago) link

Steve Tibbets was the American PV IMO (I dunno if he does stuff anymore-- I'm referring to his ECM albums).

yes, i have seen the documentary (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 17:18 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfWlnnyqoiM

69, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 17:41 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

you all heard this, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LOoNVhSpzk#t=2224

the late great, Sunday, 22 December 2013 00:54 (ten years ago) link

Years ago walking home from work I would periodically see this LaMonte Young looking dude playing this stain glass patterned butterfly shaped electric guitar through this (presumably) battery powered amp. He had the crappy built in amp chorus and reverb cranked all the way up, playing drifty noodly stuff with a cigarillo in his mouth. Anyway, I'm pretty sure this dude was the American Popol Vuh.

brimstead, Sunday, 22 December 2013 07:18 (ten years ago) link

tlg -- no, but it's lovely! where did you find it?

i have come to the conclusion that steven r smith is the american popol vuh,

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Sunday, 22 December 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link

it just got reissued on a new label called sacred summits

the late great, Monday, 23 December 2013 04:12 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg8z4JOh3bo

^ some nice french Popol Vuhlery afoot here from Isengrind

keiji cretins (NickB), Sunday, 2 February 2014 01:20 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

for all american popol vuh seekers, i strongly recommend chris forsyth's paranoid cat. the first and last songs in particular (paranoid cat 1-3 and anniversary day) for pure LT-LN outtakes. amazing! beautiful.

we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Sunday, 9 March 2014 15:34 (ten years ago) link

haha I took this video a couple days ago

http://instagram.com/p/lNiCeTIJC3/

christmas candy bar (al leong), Sunday, 9 March 2014 17:43 (ten years ago) link

That kid is otm! Wish I had bought the lp at the show but the merch table was unmanned and I was embarrassed to ask anyone. Stupid!!

we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Sunday, 9 March 2014 17:45 (ten years ago) link

what's stupid is I saw that LP at the record store for $7(!) and didn't buy it then went back bc I was stupid and it was gone. then I went back weeks later and I found it stashed somewhere else in the store entirely. like in the techno section iirc? Odd. I bought it.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Sunday, 9 March 2014 17:48 (ten years ago) link

it's so good though right?! paranoid cat 1-3 sounds so much like LT-LN/Heart of Glass era PV to me.

we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Sunday, 9 March 2014 17:51 (ten years ago) link

it's pretty incredible! I saw the forsyth self-titled recently but didnt get it. Probably should do that. Still have to get solar motel.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Sunday, 9 March 2014 17:58 (ten years ago) link

Wow, I'll have to look for that. I like Solar Motel a lot, but that's on some motorik Neu!/Rhys Chatham tip.

brains hangin (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 10 March 2014 01:59 (ten years ago) link

is robbie basho the american popol vuh???

ian, Thursday, 13 March 2014 19:06 (ten years ago) link

I'd say at the heart of both artist's endeavors that's pretty close. He has the intent and seriousness of Florian Fricke's mysticism. A friend who I tried playing both Basho and Popol Vuh for responded in a similar way to each, something about those guys are serious hippies.

JacobSanders, Thursday, 13 March 2014 19:22 (ten years ago) link

did robbie basho have a daniel fichelscher?

we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 March 2014 19:25 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yZmXeACG_A

Does anyone here like Atman? The Polish band that were on Drunken Fish that became the Magic Carpathians? Just listened to 'Personal Forest' again for the first in years and it sounded a lot better to me than I remembered. Think that listening to PV and other stuff in the interim has given me a much better understanding of where they were coming from.

eardrum buzz aldrin (NickB), Thursday, 13 March 2014 19:38 (ten years ago) link

No I guess he had no daniel fichelscher, the popol vuh record that brings to mind Basho the most is Yoga which isn't exactly a popol vuh record. But when I first heard it years ago it was sort of a revelation to me. Now that I know the story behind it, I still like it a lot. You would think there are more home recordings laying around somewhere?

JacobSanders, Thursday, 13 March 2014 23:42 (ten years ago) link

three years pass...

Who is the Italian Popol Vuh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9XnZ2fhaNs

Wichita prepares for totality (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 08:22 (six years ago) link

but with more 80s new age maybe and occasional vaguely John Cale/Talk Talk feeling vocals

Wichita prepares for totality (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 08:41 (six years ago) link

Gigi really needs his own thread, he keeps popping up all over the place on ilm

plp will eat itself (NickB), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 08:54 (six years ago) link

Does he? Dang, I thought I was bringing some deep cuts here. I'd be down for a thread though.

Wichita prepares for totality (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 11:24 (six years ago) link

balearic crew are down with gigi and all the other people that music from memory have been reissuing

plp will eat itself (NickB), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 11:30 (six years ago) link

oh wait, there's a thread already:

Tell me what I need to know about Gigi Masin

plp will eat itself (NickB), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 11:32 (six years ago) link

Dang! Bookmarked for later learning.

Wichita prepares for totality (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 13:16 (six years ago) link

well there's not a lot there tbh

not the first time i've been impressed by how ahead of the curve jaxon was though

plp will eat itself (NickB), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 13:47 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

I was pretty slow on this album but the Mark McGuire record ‘Beyond Belief’ from a couple of years back has got some beautiful and very Vuh-ish tracks on it

faust apes (NickB), Saturday, 13 January 2018 21:14 (six years ago) link

Have been working my way through his albums and they’re a lot more varied than I would’ve anticipated and that one is definitely my favourite so far

faust apes (NickB), Saturday, 13 January 2018 21:15 (six years ago) link

has he stopped singing? the last time i listened to his music, he was singing and it was not my cup of tea. i like his guitar stuff though -- he definitely has an ear for the sublime.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 13 January 2018 21:45 (six years ago) link

there is some singing on it yes. not loads - most of its instrumental, but I think I quite like his voice anyhow

faust apes (NickB), Saturday, 13 January 2018 22:04 (six years ago) link

six months pass...

Still pink floyd

pete smith has gone on the internet (69), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 05:15 (five years ago) link

peep

ian, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 23:50 (five years ago) link


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