i want the name of the one person responsible for the white dude in the old man hat voice

Jerry Reed!

(j/k)

but seriously, Jerry Reed.

sean hayes was a cool guy when I met him playing around SF years ago. he had a song called alabama chicken with jolie holland (or at least, he did it with her when I saw him).

someone should make like an adam sandler-esque comedy about a smooth sean hayes type who gets hit in the throat with a golf ball or something and suddenly he always sings like a real weird old hat man like dock boggs

or even daniel johnston or that weird high-pitched goon from canned heat

i can't even really hear his voice in my head but isn't this jason mraz? i'm too scared to youtube him.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=9Ts&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&biw=1280&bih=647&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=jason+mraz+old+man+hat&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=

Oh wait though where DOES M Ward fit into this? Is he too pitchfork indie to be lumped in with the "interesting" bro from the frat that plays guitar, which is basically the fanbase for the subject of this thread, besides the girls that are the only reason any of these guys started being musicians to get.

Confusing sentence, sorry. I'm saying the fan-base and the musicians are the same people basically. It's late, OK?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFbNESAySRM
marc broussard

first thing i thought of was ben harper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYMYCUVuDYg

i would also like white women to stop trying to sing like billie holiday (wearing an old lady hat)

is there an inverse of this, an old white dude in a young man's hat voice

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, May 16, 2011 10:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

either me or my new OS are doing something wrong here.

soul singer in jughead hate youtube

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this stuff is the worst but m ward shouldn't be mentioned as yes, he's too p4kian.

did Eagle Eye Cherry 'break' in the US back when?

he was the first thing I thought of re the thread title

Yes "Save Tonight" was a top 5 hit.

I think Ben Harper wins this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk3sJmept3k

Hats across the water

I blame Mississippi Gary

Uh oh the Bon Iver performance on Fallon totally gave me this vibe.

that shawn mullins shit

this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKHx3wJk6Zw

i like the one harlan t bobo album i have

one of these came on the radio the other day. some song a la rebecca black where the guy is in pajamas watching t.v. and he isn't gonna do anything cuz today is a day to do nothing or something? don't know the actual title. maria in the car: "Kids, this is the kind of song that your father and I really hate."

lotta different singing styles in this thread. is it whispery/gravelly old-man-ness? cuz we can maybe blame that on leonard cohen. and if it's an gotta have some bluesman affectation mixed in, then tom waits. sean hayes pushes the ancient, scratchy bluesiness way up, reminds me of both g-love and ben harper (did the the 90s give us a mini-boom in old man hats?), but also of contemporaries like davendra b.

Bon Iver, totally. I cannot stand the dude's voice.

First dude I thought of was Mraz. Some of the voices youtubed here are mort alt-folk-country, but I always think of the hat as signifying "I own some old jazz records." Plus, if you're going to make the hat the iconography for your product:

http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/jasonMRAZ-1.png

MORE alt-folk etc. Seriously half the GIS results have him in an old man hat.

Its true. The worst of them are the pop singer-songwriters who are a bit overboard on what they think sounds "jazzy" based on really cheesy cliche interpretations of the word. Its one approach to just being on the radio and TV and famous so they can attract "chicks."

I already made that last point sort of.

one of these came on the radio the other day. some song a la rebecca black where the guy is in pajamas watching t.v. and he isn't gonna do anything cuz today is a day to do nothing or something? don't know the actual title. maria in the car: "Kids, this is the kind of song that your father and I really hate."

― scott seward, Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:10 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

"The Lazy Song" by Bruno Mars. #7 song in the country right now! he's kind of the corny dad rock pop hack of the top 40 world at the moment.

i have seen old men wearing hats like this. rocky balboa's boxing trainer used to wear one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3VjaCy5gck

anyway, this isn't that old man hat voice but more coldplay meets....someone. its "soulful" but it leave me a bowlful of cold. i'm probably just jealous that the ladies love him so.

Welcome my friends, to the good side of youtube.

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this is the best cover i've ever heard, and it makes me feel Iceland in me, and Iceland is the peacefullest place i know, Thanks Bon!

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anyway, this isn't that old man hat voice but more coldplay meets....someone. its "soulful" but it leave me a bowlful of cold. i'm probably just jealous that the ladies love him so.

a lot of people who don't like bon iver would probably like him better if it weren't for the trappings of his "identity"/persona/whatever the fuck you call his social status, what it "means" to like bon iver. he's a remarkable singer and has a pretty great sense of rhythm and better phrasing than anybody from the indie side of the street has had in some time, although he does mush-mouth some & I get how people don't like that. but scott if I'd found his "i can't make you love me" in a vinyl bin at the salvation army & it was some private press think from '89 you'd be all "this cat has got something good" I'd wager.

you think?? maybe. i don't actually think he has a remarkable voice. but it could be that him reminding me of coldplay automatically makes me frown a little. which isn't his fault. unless he is consciously trying to remind me of coldplay. and then it is his fault. its the radiohead thing too. that keening hearfelt thing that never really grabs me. i used to think i kinda liked the radiohead dude's keening sadsack soul thing but i couldn't take years of it like some people. kid a and i was done. i have no problem with the little that i know about this guy. i know VERY little about the guy. the actual bon iver album stuff that i heard i didn't care for at all.

i liked tim buckley when i was younger. don't really listen to him now.

and tim buckley did the faux-blues dude AND the keening falsetto sad sack dude. holy toledo i have tim buckley to blame for everything! and then his antichrist son! no offense to their spirits in heaven. but i think i have found the culprits...

when tim would sing "well i wish i was a buzzin' flyyyyyyy" like the bastard son of al jolson and then move into that hilililili falsetto, it took some getting used to.

Scott, I think if you saw Bon Iver sing in a small room and didn't know it was him, you would go fucking nuts. I think that's also true of a lot of the people who completely "hate" him: he's just a stand-in for the stranglehold indie rock has on a certain niche in soundtracks and commercials. I should own up, I only have one record of his (the Blood Bank EP) but I saw him sing in a thing down here of other people's songs and I was like - holy shit - dude can belt - and then I gave a hard listen to "Blood Bank," and it's a killer tune with a super interesting lyric and this sort of clip-clop rhythm that's just classic private-press style. Bon Iver's falsetto is a good deal less piercing than Buckley's, it's really more in the Christopher Cross realm of high voices: lots more whisper in it.

But yeah I think you, just knowing your tastes, you don't hate Bon Iver. You hate "Bon Iver."

I've never heard a Bon Iver song. Should I?

Ha, I just remembered that I actually have a copy of For Emma, Forever Ago on my iTunes. I'm not sure if I've ever listened to it. Maybe I should. My friend likes to compare Bon Iver to 80s Chicago, which actually intrigues me a little.

get in the mood for james blake & bon iver 'fall creek boys choir'

I blame this dude. It ain't easy being green.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lEXGZWAZUgk/TyLiOhV49OI/AAAAAAAAJdM/ttyIH394ZRI/s1600/Kermit-Reporter.jpg

I tend to group this stuff with other VH1 "You Oughta Know" (TM) music, like this kinda 'half-there' music so devoid of culture or any distinguishing characteristics - beyond an empty signifying at 'emoting' - that I still can't quite picture how it'll come across looking back on it

like yesterday's easy listening/soft rock/adult pop - Phil Collins, Sting - at least had some sense of culture or zeitgeist to it

other than the occasional fedora or whatever, contemporary adult pop is so remarkably featureless. although I guess Phil Collins felt this way for a lot of adults back in the day?... as a kid that stuff was actually kind of magical, in a way I can't imagine Gavin McGraw or Jason Mraz being now

well also phil and sting's music was just made better. and they'd been at it forever. phil started making music in the 60's! and sting played with jazz bands for years in the early 70's before joining the police. they had history. by the time they hit it big in the 80's (on their own) they had been through a lot. and i think you can hear that in someone's voice. young and fresh is fine for pop music, but if you are going for aching and soulful young and fresh sounds weird. or even strangely dishonest. unless you're a genius. or have a genius voice. or been through a ton of bad shit. not saying you have to have bad shit cred to sing aching and soulful sadsack songs, just that a lot of these guys sound uh ahistorical to me.

to be honest, actual teenagers do aching and soulful way better than 20 or 30-something hat dudes. just cuz they are genuinely bummed out 24/7.

yeah but scott just 'cause you're not acquainted with somebody's apprenticeship doesn't mean it didn't happen - I know people who've been making music with Bon Iver dude for fifteen years.

I've never heard a Bon Iver song. Should I?

this is Ph1l, right? I don't think you would dig it. But I think Scott would, a great deal, if the artist weren't NOTED GRAMMY WINNER AND HERO TO THE INDIE FOLK EVERYWHERE, BON IVER. And would tell other people to give it a chance.

I always quietly blame Tom Waits for the hat + young old man schtick.

i just feel like i can hear life experience in someone's voice. am i crazy? and i feel like a lot of these guys want to sound world-wearier than they are. it feels schticky. they should listen to that red house painters dude. he was young when he made those albums in the 90's, right? but he was really good at conveying supreme bummed outness and beauty for some reason. beyond his years. maybe he was just born with more soul or something. for most people listening, this is not a concern. at all. i'm just weird. and i am not an authenticity nut. i love bob dylan and the dead and they wanted to sound like 80 year old sharecroppers when they were younger and i have no problem with it. its execution in the end. how good you are at it. tom waits was good at it.

I see this person has not been honoured in this thread:

https://www.neweracap.co.uk/explore/new-era-music/ragnbone-man/

(no old man hat tho, he’s got a young man cap to sell you)

for USxors: this has 1.2 billion views and counting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3wKzyIN1yk

As a guide to that track's bizarre reach and influence, my old man is in a 'rock' choir (he's 76 and the youngest by a distance) and they do a cover of Human.

was it hstencil who suggested an interesting answer to this question: kermit?

Does Mac Miller (RIP) fit this category? I listened to his 2020 album out of curiosity, thinking he was some kind of rapper; but I guess either I had him confused with someone else, or else at some point he reinvented himself on the model of Sublime's "What I Got"

(see the song "Surf" for a most egregious example of what I mean)

I don't actually hate it, musicwise; I just find the vocal affectations really distracting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKguzLCV2NE

serious answer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA1VQxaRQOI

lord buckley, for the record.

Excellent answer

I want the name of the one person responsible for the white instagram lady with the ukulele chunk-a-chunk sound

Lol

Nataly Dawn

Was gonna suggest Shirley Temple

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