i want the name of the one person responsible for the white dude in the old man hat voice

what other kind of white age/hat voice permutations are there I am interested in songs rather than pictures but both will prob make me happy

not quite there but i feel somehow in the bloodline: mick hucknall

I like this dude's music but think he prob fits this voice?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdTL8Lmle3A

HAHAHAH

that's not that bad. more of an indiequirky thing. the dude has probably read books or something.

great name too. is that his actual name or did he change it for maximum farmer hat?

dunno, he did strings for cat power or something, one of my friends from tennessee used to crash on his couch or he crashed on my friends couch but whatever thee were enough crashing and couch combinations for my friend to not shut up about this dude, I still listen to his albums once in a while

people love this dude around here. i don't think i'd actually ever heard him till i moved here. they have a radio station here called The River and they love all this rusticana stuff. he's an older dude though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm74Fi5ezqQ&feature=related

kinda sounds like not psychopathic gira

"the old man hat voice" -- thank you for this, I have been trying to come up with a way to describe it

oh sorry, I guess that's supposed to be read as the "white dude in the old man hat voice"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RxYhue726Q

this guy, this guy

I wouldn't want to lump Cat Stevens in with these guys, but isn't he partly to blame for this aesthetic?

I feel like Underrated Aerosmith must have opinions on Greg Brown. He's an Iowa dude, IIRC.

chicken fried verson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Yp40F93bw8&feature=player_embedded#at=19

version

I blame that fucking asshat minstrel G Love.

slightly off-topic, but i was struck earlier by how eddie's thing here actually sounds like some 70's loner-folk thing. he kinda nails it. who knew?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3SxCph5I1Q

but you know i'm not letting eddie off the hook. he has some explaining to do in front of his maker when he shuffles off this mortal coil. this right here is a perfect storm of something something:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClQvD99aItg

m ward

Jerry Reed!

(j/k)

but seriously, Jerry Reed.

sean hayes was a cool guy when I met him playing around SF years ago. he had a song called alabama chicken with jolie holland (or at least, he did it with her when I saw him).

someone should make like an adam sandler-esque comedy about a smooth sean hayes type who gets hit in the throat with a golf ball or something and suddenly he always sings like a real weird old hat man like dock boggs

or even daniel johnston or that weird high-pitched goon from canned heat

i can't even really hear his voice in my head but isn't this jason mraz? i'm too scared to youtube him.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=9Ts&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&biw=1280&bih=647&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=jason+mraz+old+man+hat&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=

Oh wait though where DOES M Ward fit into this? Is he too pitchfork indie to be lumped in with the "interesting" bro from the frat that plays guitar, which is basically the fanbase for the subject of this thread, besides the girls that are the only reason any of these guys started being musicians to get.

Confusing sentence, sorry. I'm saying the fan-base and the musicians are the same people basically. It's late, OK?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFbNESAySRM
marc broussard

first thing i thought of was ben harper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYMYCUVuDYg

i would also like white women to stop trying to sing like billie holiday (wearing an old lady hat)

is there an inverse of this, an old white dude in a young man's hat voice

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either me or my new OS are doing something wrong here.

soul singer in jughead hate youtube

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this stuff is the worst but m ward shouldn't be mentioned as yes, he's too p4kian.

did Eagle Eye Cherry 'break' in the US back when?

he was the first thing I thought of re the thread title

Yes "Save Tonight" was a top 5 hit.

I think Ben Harper wins this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk3sJmept3k

Hats across the water

I blame Mississippi Gary

Uh oh the Bon Iver performance on Fallon totally gave me this vibe.

that shawn mullins shit

this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKHx3wJk6Zw

i like the one harlan t bobo album i have

one of these came on the radio the other day. some song a la rebecca black where the guy is in pajamas watching t.v. and he isn't gonna do anything cuz today is a day to do nothing or something? don't know the actual title. maria in the car: "Kids, this is the kind of song that your father and I really hate."

lotta different singing styles in this thread. is it whispery/gravelly old-man-ness? cuz we can maybe blame that on leonard cohen. and if it's an gotta have some bluesman affectation mixed in, then tom waits. sean hayes pushes the ancient, scratchy bluesiness way up, reminds me of both g-love and ben harper (did the the 90s give us a mini-boom in old man hats?), but also of contemporaries like davendra b.

Bon Iver, totally. I cannot stand the dude's voice.

First dude I thought of was Mraz. Some of the voices youtubed here are mort alt-folk-country, but I always think of the hat as signifying "I own some old jazz records." Plus, if you're going to make the hat the iconography for your product:

http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/jasonMRAZ-1.png

MORE alt-folk etc. Seriously half the GIS results have him in an old man hat.

Its true. The worst of them are the pop singer-songwriters who are a bit overboard on what they think sounds "jazzy" based on really cheesy cliche interpretations of the word. Its one approach to just being on the radio and TV and famous so they can attract "chicks."

I already made that last point sort of.

one of these came on the radio the other day. some song a la rebecca black where the guy is in pajamas watching t.v. and he isn't gonna do anything cuz today is a day to do nothing or something? don't know the actual title. maria in the car: "Kids, this is the kind of song that your father and I really hate."

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"The Lazy Song" by Bruno Mars. #7 song in the country right now! he's kind of the corny dad rock pop hack of the top 40 world at the moment.

Watching the launch concert for the Ken Burns Country doc on PBS rn, and this Ketch Secor guy's Old Man Hat Power is off the charts!

http://www.tedxnashville.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Ketch-Secor-2-of-28-1160x700.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3AHqcinzZ4

Buskers should be executed. Also if you gave that dude a belt he wouldn't use it for his pants.

he's wearing a belt!

oops

Should be wearing suspenders instead.

sorry to say but the name of the man responsible for that is Tom Waits

I always forget what those rectangular box drum thingies are called but nothing good ever happens when they're around

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cajón
I've seen them used effectively and with joy but there's definitely a strong wook contingent

Very important in Afro-Peruvian music. Tempted to FP you two.

you got a lotta cajones to do that

very important in lots of music! but often awkwardly co-opted by us/uk artists unsurprisingly

waits didn't invent this stuff or necessarily influence most it but he's important for combining so many of the quite different white guy hat styles that have been alluded to here. he lacks some of the soul and post-grunge elements that are important in some versions

the smoother coffeeshop/youtube style seems like the offspring of one strain of this stuff (the boho retro jazz/blues thing) and indie voice

^ worst comment section ever?

Does this style of singing draw more on 70s beatnik Waits, or post-1980 hobo-in-the-gutter Waits?

yes

ha. great thread btw. couple thoughts:

when did top 40 music become inundated with ukuleles and whistling? has that trend ever subsided? it’s almost as though there was — off on the sidelines, in car commercials and corporate coffeeshop playlists — a cynical approximation of "indie" music that inadvertently caught on, and then became a dominant mode of music production.

is there anything more embarrassing than the cloying faux-sincerity of the bon iver guy? what is it exactly about his delivery that seems to suggest we should listen in quiet reverence to his Deep Lyrics? just yuck

I had never heard that guy until the Taylor Swift duets (which I think are great)... I tried checking out his own music, and it’s sort of like abstract indie r&b? Idk

i like budo jeru's "off on the sidelines" thing, like this stuff was a lab experiment that was never meant to escape its carefully regulated environment, and has no natural predators in the wild. somehow this sonic palette became widely accepted as a means of conveying sincerity, creativity, wistfulness, old pain, new hope, individuality.... blah!!!

I see this person has not been honoured in this thread:

https://www.neweracap.co.uk/explore/new-era-music/ragnbone-man/

(no old man hat tho, he’s got a young man cap to sell you)

for USxors: this has 1.2 billion views and counting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3wKzyIN1yk

As a guide to that track's bizarre reach and influence, my old man is in a 'rock' choir (he's 76 and the youngest by a distance) and they do a cover of Human.

was it hstencil who suggested an interesting answer to this question: kermit?

Does Mac Miller (RIP) fit this category? I listened to his 2020 album out of curiosity, thinking he was some kind of rapper; but I guess either I had him confused with someone else, or else at some point he reinvented himself on the model of Sublime's "What I Got"

(see the song "Surf" for a most egregious example of what I mean)

I don't actually hate it, musicwise; I just find the vocal affectations really distracting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKguzLCV2NE

serious answer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA1VQxaRQOI

lord buckley, for the record.

Excellent answer

I want the name of the one person responsible for the white instagram lady with the ukulele chunk-a-chunk sound

Lol

Nataly Dawn

Was gonna suggest Shirley Temple

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/05/c8/e7/05c8e7735dafa19741c454aabbeecaf9.jpg