Is SPIN really circling the drain?

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Porn and sex are barely connected so I don't see how a 'porn star' could help people with sexual problems.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 1 April 2006 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link

It's alt. porn. They have tattoos and flesh plugs and stuff!

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Saturday, 1 April 2006 14:29 (eighteen years ago) link

i'd say Spin started going downhill once Ultragrrrl stopped writing for them.

Wrinklepaws (Wrinklepaws), Saturday, 1 April 2006 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I looked at ms Angel's website, the url of which was listed on the spin advert that don weiner presented, above. I d/l-ed & watched one of the clips. A skanky, albeit attractive young woman with a lot of tattoos is in a house with a young bearded guy who appears to be a carpenter - he has carpentry tools attached to his belt. She has bleached blonde hair with the roots showing (I like this) and too much eye makeup (not this though. Pandas =/= hott) They feel each other up a bit, then have sex. In one short sequence they are in "reverse cowgirl" position, or a minor variant thereof. She props hersef up by holding onto one of those long yellow aluminium spirit levels. They then shift to missionary position. She is wearing horrible platform shoes. Perhaps she isn't that attractive really. I notice that she is wearing a necklace withe the word "skank" on it. The guy looks a bit dorky. Then they are standing next to each other. The woman says to the man "I can't wait to put my mouth on your cock". In what I presume is an attempt at humour, the man holds up a caulk gun of the sort one would use to squirt silicone sealant around the edge of a bathtub, advises her that it is hazardous to her health, and that she should try his dick. It wasn't terrible, I guess, but I didn't think it was very good either. The woman in the clip was not the woman in the spin advert.

I am not sure how producing material of this sort qualifies ms Angel to be a sex columnist? Unless the only questions they will be fielding will be from workers in the adult industry?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 1 April 2006 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link

ewww.. looks like something else is circling the drain.

Chex Dwarf (sanskrit), Saturday, 1 April 2006 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay, Nu-Spin is trying to jump on the alt-porn/Suicide Girls thing, I can understand the thinking there. The thing that throws me is that woman being described as "curvy." I'm hoping that's just a lazy copy writer's generic way of signifying a sexy woman, or that's really warped.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 1 April 2006 15:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Tut tut Pash, once you bragged of having none of that kinda stuff, now you jump at every chance to see it. I blame the (incredibly crappy) 9 Songs.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 1 April 2006 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Spin should just merge with Fuse and call the magazine Boob Fusion. Sales would be thru the roof!

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 1 April 2006 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Patrick you found out my mucky secret, Black Rebel Motorcycle Club turned me into a raging perv :|

Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 1 April 2006 19:25 (eighteen years ago) link

They should get Pashmina to do a sex advice column.

Eppy (Eppy), Saturday, 1 April 2006 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link

dear ms angel,

i met this girl on ilm and at first the sex was really great but now she thinks the first side of forever changes is better than the second wtf.

please help,
c/d my girlfriend

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Saturday, 1 April 2006 20:32 (eighteen years ago) link

visible boobs = curvy these days, I think. Blame Paris Hilton and Mischa Barton, etc..

Big Willy and the Twins (miloaukerman), Saturday, 1 April 2006 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link

SPIN Magazine: Teaching America to not just accept upcoming global famine, but enjoy as well.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 1 April 2006 22:06 (eighteen years ago) link

scott, please cross over and become an editor somewheres...

Beta (abeta), Saturday, 1 April 2006 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Pashmina's description is hilarious but I suspect the actual videos leave a lot to be desired.

more alt.humor, less alt.porn (mike h.), Sunday, 2 April 2006 01:49 (eighteen years ago) link

That Chinese Democracy review is great. I love Klosterman's music writing. Jon Dolan's Katrina piece was my favorite thing in there for years.

Both of them are out of the new Spin, though, or so I hear...

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Sunday, 2 April 2006 02:08 (eighteen years ago) link

there are exactly two folks from the edit staff left…i would imagine that their hatred for the new EIC is fairly volcanic…

veronica moser (veronica moser), Sunday, 2 April 2006 14:18 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
the new, fully Pemberton-ized Spin is out. look at in the store, and marvel at how laughably similar it is to Blender.

veronica moser (veronica moser), Monday, 8 May 2006 00:50 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
It finally arrived at my house and honestly, I simply cannot believe it is this bad.

The sectional breakdown, so you never have to waste your money on this:

COVER: Dismal layout/design, pathetically cloying typeface, a thudding dumbing-down that simply could not have been imagined. Gag on this: "America's 101 Wildest Parties!" At least the new tagline is mediocre; it could have been outright bad.

MASTHEAD: Pemberton's name makes me anxious. Having Charles Aaron as music editor makes me feel like I'm 40.

FOB - SPIN OUT: awful, 2nd-rate VICE photo gag featuring the absolute worst NYC nightlife has to offer. I don't want to know these people, let alone read about them or hear their response to the inane question of "If you were a musical instrument, what kind of musical instrument would you be?" Seriously, who the fuck wrote this?

FOB - Editor's letter: Embarassingly unfunny. Predictably poorly written. Wow.

FOB - "The Download 20": ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

FOB - "Barometer": worst lead-off FOB article in a music mag, like, ever. This is how you introduce "music for life"? The second article is actualyl even LESS FUCKING RELEVANT; why is there an article on French rioters?

FOB - "The Joy of Text": this appears to be an unclever idea for a column...Ariane Marder (WTF?) interviews people by text messaging.

FOB - More "Barometer" featuring one of those really, really interesting updates on Pete Doherty. Somebody wake up the fucking editor there and tell them that there are at least 10,000 junkies more interesting than this guy, and probably several hundred who sell more records.'

FOB - "SPIN Looks": This is another VICE-ly stab at relevance where they take a picture of some fame-seeker in New York and then ask a bunch of fashion related questions. Not only dumb, but poorly executed. Several pages later, we have "My Brilliant Career", which is sort of the same thing except they have some editorial assistant's friend who doesn't even work in the music business playing "ten questions." Oh, and then to show how much Pemberton doesn't get it, he repeats the "SPIN Looks" sidebar a couple of pages later with someone who is even more uninteresting than the first.

FOB - "The Brain" : In yet another idea repurposed from Blender, Charles Aaron "answers your ticklish questions" about music. What's with everyone in the mag with even a partial column getting their picture by the header. I'm a fan of Aaron but dude seriously looks like he's got a physics class to teach. Nearby "The Brain" we have one of those advertorials called "SPIN Genius Thing", which tells us how great the $350 Pentax camera is.

FOB - "Send Me An Angel": Here we have the slut column. Words fail me.

Interview - LL COOL J: He was the coolest rapper when I was in high school. In 1986. The "buying guide" sidebar is handy, if pretty much ubiquitous (thanks to Pemberton's alma mater.)

Summer Concert Preview - Kind of better than I thought it might be, but it's nothing new to the magazine.

Feature - Kelis: Is she really going to be hot this year or yet another one-hit wonder?

Feature - "Welcome To Ghost Town": thousands of words on...Chernobyl?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Have these people lost their fucking minds?????????

Feature - Eddie Vedder: a decent Q&A, although since he's hitting all the major mags it's sort of seems...dated already. Hopefully they've got a Nirvana interview to run next month as a follow-up.

Feature - Parker Posey's picture scrapbook: kind of a good idea, although Posey seems like one of those celebs that only New Yorkers are in love with. That, and I kept wondering where the pics of Ryan Adams were.

Feature - Jack White and his backing band: Is this guy blowing someone at SPIN? Because they are on his jock like white on rice.

Reviews - now called "In & Out": The thing that happens when you slice reviews down to 100 or so words is that you pretty much make them stylishly indistinguishable. In other words, there's no need for bylines since every writer sounds exactly the same. Or, in this case, every review reads like it was lifted from Blender. The section is totally without personality. Same with the video reviews. Congrats, SPIN. You've really cooked this goose well.

BOB - "SPIN Out": Distressingly titled, but simply the absolute worst waste of copy space I've ever seen in a glossy. Ever. Worse than any events listing in any alterna-weekly. And as if listing over a hundred bar nights in a ploy to raise ad revenues wasn't bad enough, SPIN brings back the dingbat known as Ultragrrl as a feature events writer. There are SIX FULL PAGES OF THIS WITH NO ADS TO BREAK ANYTHING UP. It's worthless, unimaginative, and ugly in a way that I am stunned any graphic designer could tolerate.

BOB - "Navigator": Cribbed from CMJ Monthly, this is a city guide. CMJ did this much better. Terribly ugly to look at, so bad that you will never read one entry.

Backpage - "25 Questions For Bill Maher": The biggest question of course is, "Who gives a shit about Bill Maher?"


Admittedly, I had low expectations but this issue floored me. The design alone is so pathetic, so lifeless. The editorial direction has absolutely no focus and the execution is what I might expect from Parade magazine; I'd credit part of this to a new editor but there is no promise anywhere. Blender is ten times better than this.

don weiner (don weiner), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 00:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I finally finished reading this. It didn't get better with perusal.

don weiner (don weiner), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 23:07 (seventeen years ago) link

You're only making me want to buy a copy, if only to marvel at the trainwreck of it all.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 23:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I looked at it in the Birmingham, Alabama airport yesterday and I was a bit shocked at how short reviews are now in print media. Were they always that short? They must be under a lot of pressure.

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 23:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Blender's reviews have way more character than the blurbs running in Spin now

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 00:19 (seventeen years ago) link

"Navigator": Cribbed from CMJ Monthly, this is a city guide. CMJ did this much better. Terribly ugly to look at, so bad that you will never read one entry.

These things were such a fucking pain in the ass to put together! They can have them!

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 00:47 (seventeen years ago) link

"The Joy of Text": this appears to be an unclever idea for a column...Ariane Marder (WTF?) interviews people by text messaging.

Also, I don't know who this person is, but that's a totally fucking genius idea for an front-of-book feature.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 00:49 (seventeen years ago) link

i couldn't really believe how much it looks like blender when i was flipping through it in borders this weekend. even the fonts!

goonie goonie moony juney purple spoonie killa noonie (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 00:49 (seventeen years ago) link

RETRACT. That's an older post about Blender. Duh.

http://www.gawker.com/news/spin/andy-pemberton-nearly-sacked-again-177681.php is the one I meant to post.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know how anyone could look at that abortion from last month and thought he'd earned his paycheck.

don weiner (don weiner), Friday, 2 June 2006 00:36 (seventeen years ago) link

this pleases me very much…

veronica moser (veronica moser), Friday, 2 June 2006 01:39 (seventeen years ago) link

haha conversation from last weekend: "what happened to Spin and everything... I mean it just confirms that every magazine will eventually become Playboy"

response: "BUT PLAYBOY IS GOOD!!!!!!"

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 2 June 2006 01:47 (seventeen years ago) link

hmm…from WWD…

SPINNING HIS WHEELS: Did Andy Pemberton get stuck in the revolving door? WWD reported Thursday that Pemberton, editor in chief of Spin since February, was expected to depart the title shortly, and by Thursday evening two media news Web sites were claiming his exit was a fait accompli after Pemberton sent an e-mail to Spin staffers letting them know where he could be reached. But Pemberton, reached on his cell, said there had been no change in his status. “I certainly haven’t left Spin,” he said, claiming the e-mail was merely intended to let underlings know he’d be spending today at the beach. OK, then — did he expect he’d still be at the magazine next week? “All I can say is as of now I’m still at Spin."

veronica moser (veronica moser), Friday, 2 June 2006 12:55 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Ding dong the witch is dead.

don weiner (don weiner), Monday, 26 June 2006 15:09 (seventeen years ago) link

"finally"

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 26 June 2006 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

that was four days ago! i demand new drain-circling news

marc h. (marc h.), Monday, 26 June 2006 15:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't remember the last time I bought an issue of SPIN.

I can. It was a deep red cover with a picture of Flea jumping in the air with a flourescent green mohawk in the "Mother's Milk" era. I was in 9th grade and, actually, my girlfriend gave it to me. So, I guess I didn't even buy it.

Avid Spin Reader (Uri Frendimein), Monday, 26 June 2006 15:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Pemberton ! OUT

Chuck Eddy IN ?

Is Chuck the only person that can save SPIN?

What about this as a "dream team" CHUCK & GEETA as a new management editor duo at Spin ?

Chuck ensuring METAL/ Rock coverage, GEETA ensuring the best ELECTRONIC coverage

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 26 June 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I would love to see that happen, assuming/hoping Chuck and Geeta would also love to see that happen.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Monday, 26 June 2006 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

The Martian scripts need better output formatting.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 26 June 2006 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link

they should fire ultragrrl and then dedicate a column monthly to speculating if she'll became bloated or skeletal.

Werner Herzog Netflix Quine (ex machina), Monday, 26 June 2006 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I was really quite shocked when I saw the new issue, with Beyoncé and "The 25 hottest stars under 25!" on the cover. I mean, is this YM? Teen People? (Answer: no. YM and Teen People have higher editorial standards.)

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Monday, 26 June 2006 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Doug Brod, Spin's executive editor, is the acting editor in chief.

Pemberton Exits Spin
http://tinyurl.com/lybuz
"A replacement has not yet been named."

Well it's time to pitch a new strategy / concept for SPIN?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 26 June 2006 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Since I love Chuck and Geeta, I wouldn't wish on them the burden of trying to conjure up new flesh for Spin's bleached white skeleton.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 26 June 2006 15:25 (seventeen years ago) link

i got the new issue at an airport recently, and was shocked to see beyonce on the cover. but what was MORE shocking were that those punks "the misshapes" were hawking eastport bags and the bitch of the crew was number 23 "coolest people under 25 thingy" they were doing

WTF?

their coolest parties section and last night parties picture seciton is really just plain awful

kevin barking (arghargh), Monday, 26 June 2006 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

four years pass...

Spin (online, I hope) conflates Corin Tucker and Carrie Brownstein:

CORIN TUCKER

Dates: October 7-29
Price:$16
Opening Acts: Golden Bears, Hungry Ghost
Why You Should Go: SPIN named Sleater-Kinney's 1997 release Dig Me Out one of the 125 Best Albums of the Past 25 Years—and it's not like all that talent just evaporated since the trio went on hiatus in 2006. The Portland, OR-based singer-guitarist—who has been moonlighting as an actor (she starred alongside the Shins' James Mercer in 2009's Some Days Are Better Than Others), comedienne (she performs with SNL's Fred Armisen as ThunderAnt), and blogger (for NPR's Monitor Mix)—will debut songs off her debut solo album, 1,000 Years (out October 5), which she has called her "middle-aged mom record." Yeah... if by "mom" you mean one of music's fiercest feminists and guitar goddesses who happens to have two kids.

http://www.spin.com/gallery/preview-25-best-fall-tours?page=15#main

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

chicks, man

maura, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link

that clause has been taken out btw

maura, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

markers, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

In the old days it would have been in print, and Kathleen Hanna would have set fire to a copy on stage. I miss the old days.

dlp9001, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link

In the old days there's no way it would have made it to print, because five editors would have looked it over before it reached the printers.

slow a cat sample down 800 percent (Matos W.K.), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link


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