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200 gig lacie hard drive = $250ish US

I bought this on Amazon for $230 I believe. Works great.

dean! (deangulberry), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:37 (twenty years ago) link

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on the train home from work a few minutes ago, my ipod froze. on restart i got the folder with the exclamation point screen. my computer won't recognize it. i'm on hold with apple now. fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuc kfkjdfkdsjgkfsjdpvsdk

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 22 January 2004 02:02 (twenty years ago) link

! :-( Yeesh, horrid. Hm, how long have you had the iPod?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 January 2004 02:03 (twenty years ago) link

That happened while you were using it? Eep!

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 22 January 2004 02:40 (twenty years ago) link

i've had it since may of 2002. it's gone. all gone. $250 to repair.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 22 January 2004 03:56 (twenty years ago) link

FYI the educational discount on this shit aint that hot these days.

Allyzay, Thursday, 22 January 2004 03:59 (twenty years ago) link

Class action suit, here you come!

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:57 (twenty years ago) link

the really bizarre thing? minutes before mine died i had gotten a call from my girlfriend saying that hers had just died. and one of my roommates' ipod died last week! it's like andromeda strain w/ more plastic!

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:59 (twenty years ago) link

Y... yes, that's what I meant by "class action suit".

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 22 January 2004 05:00 (twenty years ago) link

I'm getting the cheap-o Lacie drive for ~100. I wanted to buy it today at the Apple store but they only sell the firewire card for Windows. One person at the store told me that it would work on my computer, another told me that it wouldn't.

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 22 January 2004 06:52 (twenty years ago) link

if it's cardbus then the Mac will just recognise it and it will work.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 22 January 2004 07:01 (twenty years ago) link

Haha, I love how mac people are constantly like "PCs always crash, Macs never do" and then every other sentence out of their mouths is "Oh God my Mac just crashed!!!"

Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 22 January 2004 07:29 (twenty years ago) link

Speaking of batteries...

Why does my battery say it's got like 30% remaining, then suddenly sleep? I realise that it's needing to keep some power back to keep data in the memory etc until such time as I can recharge or hook up to power, but if so, then its very un-apple to not show usable' power and time remaining, isn't it?

Is there a way to make sure that the battery guagues on the menu show me what I've got to play with as a user rather than what the machine has to play with?

Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 22 January 2004 10:11 (twenty years ago) link

It's because the Powerbooks battery management is completely fucked. The battery remaining seems to be done on some sort of timing mechanism whereas the sleep is done on the actual battery strength at at a particular instance. Because the batteries themselves are prone to memory issues, these two things often don't produce the same results.

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 22 January 2004 10:37 (twenty years ago) link

Aha. Has some geek turned their mind to this with a view to resolving it, or is the 'it's fucked' conclusion the best the boffins can do for us?

Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 22 January 2004 10:44 (twenty years ago) link

Well, not being involved with Apple development anymore, I can't really say, but I have a suspicion that if it was easily fixable it would have been sorted by now. It might have been fixed in 10.3, mind.

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 22 January 2004 10:49 (twenty years ago) link

It's still not here. Curse UPS. I bet the shipping guy told them it was a bomb as a joke and they took it off and arrested it. I WANT MY FREAKING POWERBOOK AND I WANT IT NOW!!!

the river fleet, Thursday, 22 January 2004 14:24 (twenty years ago) link

have you tried calibrating your battery dave?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:26 (twenty years ago) link

two tips for battry life, all lithium ion batteries are pretty much gone somewhere between two and three years post manufacturing, this is why an extended warranty for laptops is a good idea if batteries are include

On the Mac if you want to reset the Power Management Unit, to get better battery life accuracy,this article shows you how.

and Dan I,

% uptime
19:25 up 26 days, 5:38, 6 users, load averages: 0.69 0.32 0.28

Ed (dali), Thursday, 22 January 2004 19:29 (twenty years ago) link

Calibrating? Battery? I am not understanding of your fancy ways.

Dave B (daveb), Friday, 23 January 2004 01:04 (twenty years ago) link

it's quite easy--just use your computer, unplugged, until it automatically goes to sleep. then plug it in and let it charge to full power. this may or may not help.

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 23 January 2004 01:11 (twenty years ago) link

I may be uhhhh, "acquiring" a copy of Garage Band soon and a pdf that purports to explain it all to me. What will I find, I wonder?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 23 January 2004 08:28 (twenty years ago) link

And also to Dan I.


% uptime
0:45 up 31 days, 6:13, 2 users, load averages: 0.00 0.02 0.00

And that last restart was just to run the 10.3.2 update

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 23 January 2004 08:46 (twenty years ago) link

I CANNOT BELIEVE THOSE MOTHER FUCKERS AT J&R HAVE NOT EVEN SHIPPED MY COMPUTER YET!!! WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY DOING THAT IS TAKING SO LONG?!?!? SHIPS IN ONE TO TWO DAYS, MY FUCKING ARSE!!!!

I am really angry and waiting for the customer service line to wake the fuck up.

the river fleet, Friday, 23 January 2004 12:45 (twenty years ago) link

adam - i will love you with my heart if i cd "acquire" a copy of garage band and supporting pdf. :)

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 23 January 2004 16:07 (twenty years ago) link

Is it stuck in customs? My iPod was stuck in customs for a damn long time.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 23 January 2004 16:09 (twenty years ago) link

I WOULD LOVE YOU TOO ADAM.

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 23 January 2004 17:10 (twenty years ago) link

Cozen-I still have a cdr full of stuff I promised you about a year ago that I feel terribly guilty about not sending out. Give me the wknd and I will see what I can do. s1ocki, too.

The pdf turned out to be a red herring, sadly. :(

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 23 January 2004 17:19 (twenty years ago) link

Oh - Cozen, I MAY be able to set you up with something else you asked about that was previously beyond my grasp.

Starts with "L"...ends in "ogic Platinum"...

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 23 January 2004 17:21 (twenty years ago) link

I just called them. Supposedly it shipped today. Grrrrrrr... better get here soon or I'll explode.

the river fleet, Friday, 23 January 2004 18:04 (twenty years ago) link

i will kiss you with my mouth!!!

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 23 January 2004 18:06 (twenty years ago) link

airport extreme base station
airport extreme card
512 megs ram for my ibook
new ibook battery
lacie external hard drive

are there deals/combos/anything like that anywhere???

I would look around for different FW drive possibilities. Sure they (Lacie) are reliable, but I bought an Iogear case that is just as neat looking (and matches my powerbook, mixer, and MIDI controller to boot) for $119 CAD. Sure it's empty, but the price of a new ATA-133 HD still makes it cheaper than a Lacie.

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:51 (twenty years ago) link

This gives me a boner:

http://www.elgato.com/products/eyehome.html

Although, I have to wonder if there is a significant loss of sonic fidelty when you shoot audio over an Airport Extreme.

don weiner, Friday, 23 January 2004 20:22 (twenty years ago) link

GarageBand is a good example of getting what you pay for. While I am impressed at Apple's audio hardware and a couple of the interface doohickies, it is absolutely crap for making any kind of serious music as the requisite do-overs and retakes and mindbending bullshit that passes for track editing turns the whole enterprise into a pain in the neck and by the time I've gotten the bassline and the drums to sound anything remotely like I want them to I've sick of the whole idea of 'music' and quit out.

However I really don't feel like bitching too much since a $50 program like this is really no sweat, I could have spent 6-8 times as much and probably would have very very similar complaints (see me being totally sketchy about buying any studio program for my computer for 4 years, resulting in my complete lack of recorded output since 1998).

TOMBOT, Thursday, 29 January 2004 02:00 (twenty years ago) link

OMIGOD, PURSEY IS SO CUUUUUUUUTE!!! I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE HIM!!! (HSA is jealous already.)

OK, here's a question. You know how they claimed that Mac Office came preinstalled - how come mine is just a "test drive" version that expires in 30 days? Do they expect me to pay for Office, coz they can fuck right off if they do. Or do I just need to register to get the real version? (Or do then Windoze sweep down and eat my soul for getting a Mac in the first place?)

CAN I JUST PLEASE REITERATE HOW CUTE MY POWERBOOK IS?!?!?

The River Kate (kate), Thursday, 29 January 2004 23:58 (twenty years ago) link

you have to pay for office, you only get trial, however the very good, and free, open office is out there. I'll get you sorted with all this crap if you come over when you get back.

Ed (dali), Friday, 30 January 2004 01:09 (twenty years ago) link

Wait, I'm curious about open office too!

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 30 January 2004 01:40 (twenty years ago) link

Open office only runs in x11 not in aqua, however its a very good fully featured office suite, the interface sucks somewhat. see here. I use it exclusively.

Ed (dali), Friday, 30 January 2004 01:47 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.neooffice.org/

TOMBOT, Friday, 30 January 2004 01:55 (twenty years ago) link

i'm curious too. can you give us a short idiots guide to running openoffice (haha plus, what is it?) in panther ed?

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 30 January 2004 02:02 (twenty years ago) link

or anyone who knows, obv.

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 30 January 2004 02:02 (twenty years ago) link

1) Install X11, on the panther CD 3
2) Dowload Open Office from http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/ooo-osx_downloads.html
3) Run the installer
4) Start the launch Open Office appluication

Ed (dali), Friday, 30 January 2004 02:07 (twenty years ago) link

just go to openoffice.org and download all the X.11 crap they point you to. It's not that difficult, just annoying when you have to start up like 3 programs to get it to run, and then it's ugly and horrible looking.

TOMBOT, Friday, 30 January 2004 02:07 (twenty years ago) link

there is now a little script to do all the launching for you. It does look like a bad Win95 app though.

Ed (dali), Friday, 30 January 2004 02:09 (twenty years ago) link

thanks ed & tom. i'm still pretty much a mac moron.

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 30 January 2004 02:11 (twenty years ago) link

oh after a quick visit to the site i realise i won't be doin that on dial-up (173mb!) plus is it really any better than appleworks, which i run right now?

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 30 January 2004 02:13 (twenty years ago) link

I will be bringing Pursey over when I get back, and if you could sort me out with this stuff, Ed, I would be much obliged! I've already changed my desktop background about five times. I'm so amused by all his voices. Yes, I know this will wear off soon.

God, I need some actual software or MP3s or something for him soon!

The River Kate (kate), Friday, 30 January 2004 02:50 (twenty years ago) link

I'm disappointed kate. Your really should have made a film about opening the box of your new mac

Dave B (daveb), Friday, 30 January 2004 11:47 (twenty years ago) link

Box? Single box? Man, mine came inside THREE SEPARATE BOXES and a weird polysomething bag. Not to mention that the boxes are about eight times the size of the tiny little Mac. This seems very foolish.

The River Kate (kate), Friday, 30 January 2004 13:30 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
NEw High definition Final cut Pro, New Shake New DVD Studio Pro, new animation titling compositing software: Motion for less than half the price of the competition. New Logic Audio Pro.

Updated PowerBooks expected later Today.

Ed (dali), Monday, 19 April 2004 08:48 (twenty years ago) link


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