please make the big oracle post lamp
also i do think it was one of the best rpg stories of any game of its era imo
― Lamp, Friday, May 13, 2011 1:01 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark
story-wise i dont think any RPG has ever hit all the right notes for me like this one did
maybe Deus Ex or the first Fallout - certainly no other JRPG
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link
i remember finding them ok @ controlling the flow of a battle (really one of the most impt things in fft) but tedious to use, mostly. why did you like using them?
i just found it funny that you could basically leave a battle on autopilot thanks to them - there were also a few funny times where i ended up barely scraping through a tough battle because i had a dancer tucked in a corner doing the HP damage dance or the random status dance
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
this shit right here is my jam foreverhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGdeHJKicmc
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 May 2011 17:29 (twelve years ago) link
This song is just too beautiful. Makes me think of drizzle gently falling on green fields, while kid-looking humans and magical creatures fight for survival.tribilyan 1 year ago 26 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 May 2011 17:31 (twelve years ago) link
Imagine living in the ff tactics world. I would be a no nonsense rogue knight who wants to beat the crap out of the royal families and nobles with badass musicWillC 5 months ago
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 May 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
this is my jam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azKaZUfPOJ4
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
haha lol @ me. the thing about oracles is that they have the best melee stats of the mage classes (iirc?) & their status-altering abilities are probably the most useful @ controlling the flow of battle & at isloating and sidelining enemies so you can stat-boost/jp milk/steal items/learn spells w/e reason you might want to prolong & manipulate an encounter.
also the combo of praise/doubt faith always you to mitigate the low base success rate of your more powerful spells, minor spells like blind & sleep are both long-lasting & effective, most of your powerful equipment can be stolen/obtained from drops early & you have a v useful built-in MP recovery system in both the drain spells & move MP up.
obv a time mage w/ math skill secondary & good spell book can break the game so hard but taking the time to master calculator is boring. in the same way you can build ninja/monk characters that are basically unbeatable but they have a hard time controlling the battle if you want to do anything other than win. oracles are both easy to master & versatile to use making them the best support class & one of the most interesting & fun to use imo
― Lamp, Friday, 13 May 2011 17:54 (twelve years ago) link
mediator's better b/c the sleep spell is called "Mimic Daravon"
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link
the most obscure of in-geek nerd jokes
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 May 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
never did figure out what the hell an onion knight was.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110109162822/finalfantasy/images/1/1a/FF3-NES-OnionKnight.PNG
― hillybilly death worship (absolutely clean glasses), Friday, 13 May 2011 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
thought for just a sec that surfing was LJ― And thusly create the illusion of babby (forksclovetofu), Friday, 29 April 2011 13:00 (2 weeks ago)
― And thusly create the illusion of babby (forksclovetofu), Friday, 29 April 2011 13:00 (2 weeks ago)
ha!
― Confused Turtle (Zora), Friday, 13 May 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
did they rename mime onion knight in the psp port? or squire?
*crosses arms* the oracle's sleep spell has a better range & success rate
― Lamp, Friday, 13 May 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
as a guy who relied heavily on crowd-control stuff like sleep i totally see where you're coming from lamp, but thats why i loved the dancer's random status dance - in one move you can have the whole board incapacitated
im trying to remember what other cheap-ass cc i would use, i think calculatin' was prob my main go-to for that
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
time mages can be really effective controllers too esp since haste/slow are almost always 80%+ manipulating RT is one of the easiest ways to slide through tough story battles since its so cheap
― Lamp, Friday, 13 May 2011 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
who are yalls favorite characters btw... im sure we all agree the shitty twins were the worst
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 18:13 (twelve years ago) link
also, what's your preferred chocobo:person ratio in a party
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 18:14 (twelve years ago) link
i always really liked ovelia but only because she had such a sweet class *whistles*
i never use monsters in battle (except v rarely for the fun of mounted combat) but a character + one chocobo party is p cool
― Lamp, Friday, 13 May 2011 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
i used NO chocobos at any point on this last playthruorlando breaks the game basically but damn he is a badass
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 May 2011 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
'bos make good ridin, which is why i generally liked to tuck one or two into my party for characters who i need to be extra mobile
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
iirc correctly there are a couple of maps where you need a chocobo to reach the buried item? or maybe a ninja w/ the +1 jump shoe could reach it? i always though it was shitty you couldnt ride the wolves, wouldve been p badass
― Pippa's Farce (Lamp), Friday, 13 May 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
thanks for the thoughts folks. reading this thread is sealing the deal for me i think.
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 13 May 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link
kinda love this thread even though i've never played fft
― adult music person (Jordan), Friday, 13 May 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link
also forx: did you beat deep dungeon? & how many of the secret characters did you get?
― Pippa's Farce (Lamp), Friday, 13 May 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link
on this go round, i made a real decision not to character grind or hunt for secrets or anything so i don't think i did ANY of the hidden things. i really meant to beat it this time!
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 May 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
so no cloud.
on my final playthrough i finally tackled deep dungeon and got every hidden character + ultima. cloud sucked :/
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
none of the hidden characters except MUSTADIO are all that useful (oh wait is beowulf a 'hidden character'?) esp because by the time you get that far into chapter four you probably have your preferred attack team already levelled up
― Pippa's Farce (Lamp), Friday, 13 May 2011 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
yeah mustadio owns
mustadiowns
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 23:17 (twelve years ago) link
i found myself perpetually torn between fielding a team of 'names' and my loyalty to the footsoldiers who i'd been developing at the beginning of the game
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 23:18 (twelve years ago) link
how much of a pain is it to run psx roms? really want 2 play this now but dont want to deal w/ digging out my playstation...
― Pippa's Farce (Lamp), Friday, 13 May 2011 23:24 (twelve years ago) link
i think on my 'perfect game' file one of the stipulations was that you only had 'name' characters (which i think means you do get the three generics that youre gifted at the end of the first castle battle) & i h8d it. partially cuz it meant levelling rafa & retard since theyre one of the few name characters you get early on but also because i loved the sprites for most of the job classes more than i loved the sprites for the pc classes
― Pippa's Farce (Lamp), Friday, 13 May 2011 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
lmao 'rafa & retard'
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 23:36 (twelve years ago) link
yeah this is totally making me want to dust off my ps2 and start a new game :/
I'm telling u guys: go psp
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 14 May 2011 00:51 (twelve years ago) link
^^^ truth bomb
― Alderaan Duran (Will M.), Saturday, 14 May 2011 03:26 (twelve years ago) link
seriously with the exception of brink on my pc recently, i would say 95% of my gaming in the past like 12 motnhs has been PSP, and the other 5% is iphone!
Did they improve anything in the PSP version besides the translation, particularly gameplay-wise? Your suggestion to get a PSP and this game is actually kinda tempting to me, but god knows I've failed so many times to get more than 30-40 hours into this game. The grinding and random encounters and having badly built characters always killed my interest before I get through it all. If I ever do it again, I'm probably gonna have a major plan mapped out for the classes before I even start.
― Nhex, Saturday, 14 May 2011 03:40 (twelve years ago) link
Sold my copy of FFT and FFVII to some dude on CL when I needed dosh. Never really played FFT yet.
Waiting for PSN to come back up so I can get both for the psp.
on a related note, bought Ys I & II today for the plane ride home tomorrow. Let's see how long it takes me to beat 'em.
― Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Saturday, 14 May 2011 05:11 (twelve years ago) link
Theres new quests and local online pvp and coop, none of which got any use in my playthru.The retranslation is great and theres a bunch of new animated sequences that any fan will appreciate.
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 14 May 2011 05:15 (twelve years ago) link
Weirdly, the slowdown is still in play during spells
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 14 May 2011 05:16 (twelve years ago) link
Im gonna say this once more and then i'll stop: if you have fond memories of fftactics and u buy a psp and ff tactics, you will not be sorry
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 14 May 2011 05:30 (twelve years ago) link
not all of us are carpeting our mansions in ipad2s here forx...
i found my old 'perfect game' save btw... p sickening how many hours i put in w/o finishing
― Lamp, Saturday, 14 May 2011 06:11 (twelve years ago) link
I should drag out my disc and finish this so I can finally closet the PS2. The thing is I have an 11 week old but she'll probably like it.
Oh and btw I have a douche party with a bard, a dancer and a calculator, and I pretty much run auto-battle all the time. Word: http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps/197339-final-fantasy-tactics/faqs/21850
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 14 May 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link
speakin of gamefaqs, this is crucial for any playthru:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps/197339-final-fantasy-tactics/faqs/3876
― Princess TamTam, Saturday, 14 May 2011 15:02 (twelve years ago) link
also what are you guys talking about the story is the second best story ever told on the PSthis and xenogears
unwittingly manipulated gnostic cults ftw
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 14 May 2011 15:02 (twelve years ago) link
smh
― Princess TamTam, Saturday, 14 May 2011 15:06 (twelve years ago) link
did anyone ever bother levelling cloud / getting all of his moves? I think i managed to get his limits but he was still under level so I never really used him, heard he is pretty dece though if you do
― Alderaan Duran (Will M.), Saturday, 14 May 2011 22:24 (twelve years ago) link
also anyone feel that putting Luso into the PSP port is tantamount to lucas p-shopping hayden whats his name into the original trilogy #nerdcomment #honestlyembarrassedijustsaidthat
― Alderaan Duran (Will M.), Saturday, 14 May 2011 22:25 (twelve years ago) link
i got all of cloud's moves. he's middling (in the original at least).
― jay lenonononono (abanana), Saturday, 14 May 2011 22:57 (twelve years ago) link
cloud's high level moves take too long to charge to be of any real use
― Princess TamTam, Saturday, 14 May 2011 23:35 (twelve years ago) link
Haste and Slow opened my eyes to the idea of "power scaling" in gaming in general. As an 18- or 19-year old I expected each successive class unlock to present progressively bloodier and higher-damage skill and spell options. It felt like Time Mage took ages to unlock and was kind of pathetic,
it was only much later when I realized that there's a reason they don't give you Time Mage right away and make you work for it.
― fields of salmon, Friday, 7 November 2014 08:53 (nine years ago) link
secret hunt is the most busted ability in the game?
― ≖_≖ (Lamp), Saturday, 8 November 2014 19:04 (nine years ago) link
shocked they haven't made an FFT2 yet.
they have! but they're for GBA/DS. i played the first one (Final Fantasy Tactics Advance) and it's fun but suffers in comparison to the original. they added a Judge system which is sometimes fun but mostly annoying. and the story (disclosure: i only played through about 12 hours or so) was pretty mediocre.
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 8 November 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link
oh, duh, i'm sure you know about those. i guess you mean a sequel that takes place during the Lion War and isn't about daydreaming schoolchildren?
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 8 November 2014 19:27 (nine years ago) link
i liked the first ds fft but it doesnt have the same depth as the psx game
rn i am fighting the urge to manage my level advancement to maximize stat growth because i really dont want to fall down that rabbithole
― ≖_≖ (Lamp), Saturday, 8 November 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link
i thought the setup of the gba one was really affecting
it sort of felt arbitrary and failed to compel once it got to landmarks on maps, though, a bit like legend of mana
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Saturday, 8 November 2014 21:28 (nine years ago) link
yeah, i tried ffta and it's not really much of a game. but maybe i should go back to it?
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 9 November 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link
1997 Developer Interview, originally featured in Famicon Tsuushin magazine, newly translated:
http://shmuplations.com/fft/
― I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Saturday, 16 July 2016 15:45 (seven years ago) link
nice i should play disgaea
― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Monday, 18 July 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link
disgaea is extremely anime voice but the way it encourages experimentation and exploits is sui generis and great. i haven't played since the PS2 but i've heard the recent PC port isn't great.
― adam, Monday, 18 July 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link
hmmmmhttps://noisypixel.net/fae-tactics-switch-pc-spring-2020/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2OcmU-KV-I
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 July 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link
also the tactics ost is on spotify now so i'm playing that
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 July 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link