preacher: the movie

(Jay Underwood = Human Torch in shelved Roger-Corman-produced FF flick.)

Odd:
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=23535

emotional and psychological complexity - which Preacher has in spades

!!!

It'll also make a nice change for him, after his most recent movie, the 50s-set drama, Revolutionary Road. This one has considerably more action - and people with faces like an arse.

AMC now developing Preacher for TV.

Can't say 'fuck' on AMC. Might be a stumbling block.

brba got 1 fuck a season

bleeped tho

Or Blurred.

http://needcoffee.cachefly.net/needcoffee/uploads/2009/01/fuck-communism-lighter.jpg

Shooting in Regina (where I live) this summer with a budget of $15 million.
will post more when I learn more.

lol

ugh seth rogan adaptation, no thank you

i mean whatever, he might be the right person for this but i guess the person i am now is not the right person to watch it.

he's not writing it though. do you hate Catlin's episodes of Breaking Bad?

Which ones are they?

s2e4, "Down"
s2e9, "4 Days Out"
s3e4, "Green Light"
s3e10, "Fly"
s3e12, "Half-Measures"
s4e3, "Open House"
s4e8, "Hermanos"
s4e11, "Crawl Space"
s5e4, "Fifty-One"
s5e12, "Rabid Dog" (also directed)

yeah, that's good stuff. i am torn now.

i'll give it a chance if it makes it to series. it won't be the same without the excessive swearing though

Yeah I'll definitely watch it. Preacher's a good yarn for all its faults.

If they stick to the comics, "Mom?" will be the scene I'll anticipate.

This thread isn't about the movie called Preacher that I thought it was about.

This seems like a weird idea... I mean, no way can they use the whole God subplot (especially its conclusion) on American TV, right? And if they don't use it, the whole premise of the story is changed.

And even though The Da Vinci Code did popularize the whole "Jesus had kids and his bloodline is still around" theory, I can imagine some viewers getting a bit upset if the series uses Ennis's particular version of Jesus's descendants.

Atheism is hot and sexy these days -- I could see them using everything from the book. Maybe even the "fuck"s, with bleeps, which would kinda be hilarious.

SPOILERS!!

But the series isn't really about atheism, it's about the Christian god being a manipulative jerk, and his followers being idiots and/or dangerous and violent fanatics, and it ends with said god and his angels being shot to death, which is seen as a justified act of revenge and generally a good thing. So even if "atheism is hot and sexy", I'd assume those plot points would be quite controversial.

Executive producers tend to be fairly hands-off, don't they? I expect Rogan & Goldberg's involvement helped get this commissioned, but they probably won't be hugely involved beyond that.

So glad it wasn't the Daredevil guy who ended up doing it. Can only imagine what a trainwreck that would've been.

Daredevil guy = Ben Affleck?

Haha, no. Mark Steven Johnson, writer-director of Daredevil(and GHOST RIDER!), was apparently lined-up for show-running duties when this was still at HBO.

apparently = wrote a pilot and plotted multiple new stories with Ennis for a year or three

Okay, I thought you were talking about Affleck, because years ago it was rumoured he'd be playing Jesse Custer in a Preacher movie.

What happened to huk-l anyway?

welp, this don't look much like the series in any way, which is a step in the right direction but seth rogen so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNgI2sRzr8I

weird how they completely avoided admitting any supernatural element, though i'm pretty sure it's still in there
if it's not like the comic book in any way, what's the point?

It's pretty weird, the official copy accompanying the Youtube video says "a supernatural Preacher, a gun-toting ex, and an Irish vampire are coming to AMC mid-2016", but the video shows absolutely none of those elements, not even Tulip's guns. Cassidy has a few lines, but the vampire thing isn't alluded to, you'd think that would a selling point with all the succesful vampire series of recent years? Though based on the trailer it seems more like they're trying to market this as a Breaking Bad -style hard-boiled crime series, so maybe they thought vampirism would attract the wrong kind of crowd?

and yet they advertised this during the Walking Dead 90-min special last night...

test a bunch of promotional approaches, gauge which ones work best, stress those in the leadup, air the series you were going to air all along (maybe with a little tweaking in post)

if it's not like the comic book in any way, what's the point?

― Nhex, Monday, November 2, 2015 10:27 AM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't know how many times I've asked this question over the years. What's the point in everything hinging on a particular property if you're going to tweak said property to the point where it's unrecognizable to its existing fanbase and it isn't well-known enough to lure newcomers via brand recognition? Take a peek at the upcoming Lucifer show for similar shenanigans. Why make an original procedural about the devil helping the police solve crimes when you can take a shit all over something that already exists?

Mind you, I think straying from Preacher's roots can only be an improvement.

I think the main story and main characters in Preacher are pretty good and might make for a decent TV series. It's all the extra stuff, the macho posturing, the homophobic minor characters, Ennis' anti-PC rants, etc, which makes it less than perfect.

?

i just reread the first five issues; this book sucks

They are also interestingly enough making to more superhero considering Tulip's and Cassidys parts in the first show.

― earlnash, Thursday, May 26, 2016 3:44 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm assuming this relates to Tulip being introduced as a bungling would be assassin in the comic book who leaps into Cassidy's pick up truck and tries to jack it off him which he refuses.
& the tv show has him being introduced having a Bond -like fight on a plane, though a bit more gorey, and her having a fight in a speeding vehicle displaying all kinds of martial arts skills or whatever.

But it is a different medium and does have its own way of showing narrative which maybe this taps into more.
I dunno. Quite enjoyed it anyway.

I enjoyed it! A more comedic tone than the comic, and seemed much more willing to laugh at its protagonists, which can only be a good thing. Remains to be seen how well/if it deals with the more epic storylines coming up.

Re accents - I'm as English as they come so am probably not the best judge, but I thought Joe Gilgun's Cork brogue was pretty convincing.

God Howard Stark's accent is so, so bad. Like, even worse than his Howard Stark accent - but at least he's not the main character in that show!

Whatever Gilgin's doing, it ain't Cork boy

I thought this was pretty good, even if it is the worst of the current batch of comics TV shows that isn't Arrow.

It did seem the plot threw itself about a bit but I guess television narrative style drives that.

Read the full series on a whim, definitely gonna try to sell it on ebay.
First episode of this was pretty bad, i faded out after the gratuitous broken arm scene.

Does it hold up? I've never read it.

I re-read it nine or ten years ago, and it kind of doesn't, except that it didn't really at the time. A new reader might well be carried along by the characters and jokes and twists just as well as a '90s reader waiting month to month or TPB to TPB was, except without the accompanying investment letting them feel disappointed or cheated by a tangent or twist too far. Read it if you're interested, keep going if you like it, bail out if it loses you at some point.

Positive things I have to say about Preacher based on my memory of reading it fifteen years ago or whatever:

1) I really like Steve Dillon's art.
2) For better or worse, Odin Quincannon fucking the meat lady is an indelible image.
3) Turning Herr Starr into a walking penis head was pretty good, as juvenile jokes go.

That's pretty much it.

it doesn't "hold up" but it is a quick compulsive read if you skip over all the proselytizing. Last few issues are terrible.

I don't think I managed to finish the first TPB.

I read a lot of this series (at least the first five trades) in high school during my heavy Vertigo phase, and while I still like Steve Dillon's art, the writing definitely seems glib and ~edgy~ in a strained way that doesn't repay rereading.

so the main way they're trying to keep true to the comic is computer-colouring everything in '90s Vertigo shades of baby-shit brown and green

I.e. the most consistently-lamentable quality of '90s Vertigo.

on the plus side, a copy of preacher #1 sold on ebay for $250 over the weekend so ahma try to sell my whole collection asap

Would that I had not sold my collection years ago. One man's trash...

$150 bid for the collection (1 to 50 plus all the one shots and saint of killer mini in VF+/NM and the last two TPB), 4 days to go

nice. I sold all the one-shots & spinoffs years ago, gotta get my run of TPBs up

I got 340 bucks for the full series btw, think i undersold but happy to have the room on my shelf.

That seems like a good price. are old floppies like old vinyls now?

Wow. I'm not sure what I have in the way of the spin offs but certainly have the original 60 odd issues. Not entirely sure where they are but...

Walking Dead number one is selling for thousands; there's a sudden surge on preacher insofar as if it becomes popular it's a CULTURAL TOUCHSTONE
seems silly but happy to have it happen. Now what do I do with the other 5000 odd floppies? Do people want full runs of Howard the Duck anymore?

I got 340 bucks for the full series btw, think i undersold but happy to have the room on my shelf.

Got the 9 volumes out the door for $130, very happy about that

Also stuck up Troubled Souls and For A Few Troubles More by Ennis & McCrea, which are at $50 and $45 respectively with 5 days to go