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while it's been out a while, I still love Law Of Life and the midnite remix from the 12" is reminiscent of a sally shapiro reinterpretation with the electric piano lines. i dunno chromatics and glass candy aside i dig about 3/4 of the After Dark LP.

san frandisco, Thursday, 10 July 2008 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

It's weird I picked this up like a day ago, I'd had it on my mp3 player for ages but it's one of those records that needs to be a record y'know?

I know, right?, Thursday, 10 July 2008 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

Also glass candy are great, and their dead aesthetic is one of the reasons the whole italians thing is so intriguing. Ice blonde and everything.

I know, right?, Thursday, 10 July 2008 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

So go suck a fuck or whatever

I know, right?, Thursday, 10 July 2008 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

Previous discussion:

I LOVE YOU "THE CHROMATICS"
Glass Candy - "Iko Iko"

-- caek, Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:19 AM (3 hours ago)

much better threads TBH.

Steve Shasta, Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

kinda intended for this thread to start off talking about how great Tiedye are

J0rdan S., Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

i don't really understand what baeleric music is.

but this one song sounds kinda nice.

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:54 (twelve years ago) link

i guess balaeric music is like if The Edge played in a disco band?

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

wait now it sounds kinda miami vice

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

like dire straits brothers in arms guitars

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

is axel f balaeric?

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:56 (twelve years ago) link

i like this song.

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:56 (twelve years ago) link

Whoa that is some hammy guitar on "Nothing Else Matters".

lou, Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

yeah the guitar is total schlock but that's what's so great obv

J0rdan S., Thursday, 10 July 2008 21:00 (twelve years ago) link

i don't really understand what baeleric music is

judging by your next few posts .... yes you do

dmr, Thursday, 10 July 2008 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think I can stomach it.

xpost

lou, Thursday, 10 July 2008 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

this stuff is kinda cool.

like half of me thinks i should be dancing.

half of me thinks i should be watching martin riggs from lethal weapon have a dark night of the soul.

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 10 July 2008 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

i guess balaeric music is like if The Edge played in a disco band?

he did once, kinda
http://www.discogs.com/release/31585

dmr, Thursday, 10 July 2008 21:12 (twelve years ago) link

Is that record any good because the line-up makes it sound awesome?

jim, Thursday, 10 July 2008 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

I bought that a couple decades ago just because of The Edge (I had no idea who the other people were at the time). Wish I still had it.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 10 July 2008 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

yeah no doubt i'd never heard of that?

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 10 July 2008 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

I used to hate that record (cause it doesn't sound like Can, lol) but now that my taste is all balearic beardoed out I think it's awesome

dmr, Thursday, 10 July 2008 21:25 (twelve years ago) link

me too, but i sold it a while back :(

even has lyrics by arthur russell.

jaxon, Thursday, 10 July 2008 22:18 (twelve years ago) link

label is fucking good

winston, Friday, 11 July 2008 04:21 (twelve years ago) link

just heard that edit tiedye did of tom petty. love it.

t_g, Saturday, 12 July 2008 09:28 (twelve years ago) link

The TieDye track is brilliant, by the way, by some distance the best thing I've heard on this label.

Matt DC, Saturday, 12 July 2008 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

That record sounds so cool. I really want to go record shopping right now.

I know, right?, Saturday, 12 July 2008 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

Produced by KEVORKIAN?

I know, right?, Saturday, 12 July 2008 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW9qZNcZTQ8

I know, right?, Saturday, 12 July 2008 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

this is great actually

I know, right?, Saturday, 12 July 2008 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

didn't mean to derail this into a Snake Charmer thread but it seemed on topic at the time :)

so all that stuff on Tiedye's page you can download free! very cool. I think the Italians 12" is out of print anyway (won't be re-pressed in case it attracts the wrath of Lars)

dmr, Saturday, 12 July 2008 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

Actually Tiedye stuff is really cool, nice warm drum sound

I know, right?, Saturday, 12 July 2008 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

really dry sounding

I know, right?, Saturday, 12 July 2008 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

back to the matter at hand, did anybody snatch a copy of the after dark 3xlp??

winston, Saturday, 12 July 2008 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

I had to stop being completist with them, already bought the After Dark CD and have a couple of the 12"s so I took a pass on that one. ditto the Tiedye 12", I saw it in a store once but it was 10 bucks for a one-sided record. I do like the track though.

(on the other hand I would buy an LP version of Glass Candy's "Beatbox" in a heartbeat to get Candy Castle and Digital Versicolor on vinyl ... )

dmr, Saturday, 12 July 2008 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

DMR: That TieDie single is available on eMusic, FWIW.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 12 July 2008 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

thx, I'm not subscribed there but I got it off their website (the link in the first post)

dmr, Saturday, 12 July 2008 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

back to the matter at hand, did anybody snatch a copy of the after dark 3xlp??

That's what I bought a couple days ago. I figured they were all like that...?

I know, right?, Saturday, 12 July 2008 20:53 (twelve years ago) link

some of them are CDs.

jed_, Saturday, 12 July 2008 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

if you go straight to the source, some of the stuff is cheaper
http://www.troublemanunlimited.com/store/non-tmu.php

Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 12 July 2008 21:17 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't realize IDIB was part of Troubleman, cool!

I know, right?, Saturday, 12 July 2008 21:22 (twelve years ago) link

yeah its a sub label. Ordered loads off TMU in the past.

Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 12 July 2008 21:26 (twelve years ago) link

It's such a great label, they're good to order off then? I've been wanting this Religious knives thing for months, and I'm loaded right now. Well by my standards.

I know, right?, Saturday, 12 July 2008 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

I've never had any problems, some southern lord board/dffd and vlv posters hold grudges from long ago over them, but i know the mailorder has been ok the last 3 years or so since i started ordering

Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 12 July 2008 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

the harvey milk lp they put out is one of my favourites

Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 12 July 2008 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

cool, i'll check it out!

I know, right?, Saturday, 12 July 2008 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

Its nothing like Italians Do It Better stuff obviously.
Woods, Growing, Warmer Milks, Isis Live 2 are other really good things I ordered from them that I can remember offhand.

Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 12 July 2008 21:42 (twelve years ago) link

looking at http://www.troublemanunlimited.com/store/lp.php reminds me there's still quite a few vinyl i still need to pick up actually.

Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 12 July 2008 21:43 (twelve years ago) link

That link is gonna be HELL on my credit card.

I know, right?, Saturday, 12 July 2008 21:51 (twelve years ago) link

You did notice that the cd section has a special offer on? (distro stuff doesn't count tho)
Im skint and cant afford anything but I just looked at the distro section and saw stuff i've been looking for ages to get.

Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 12 July 2008 21:55 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, this is a great compilation. Everything I love about IDIB basically.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 29 October 2020 02:28 (six months ago) link

Also very adequate time of the year to release anything IDIB related.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 29 October 2020 02:46 (six months ago) link

Definitely. Got the windows open to a rainy fall night. All I need is a little neon and I'd be good to go.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 29 October 2020 03:03 (six months ago) link

Worse Things Than Feeling Lonely = anthem for our times

Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Monday, 2 November 2020 03:56 (six months ago) link

lovely little record
think it's better than 2

nxd, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 14:39 (six months ago) link

four months pass...

its still mad how this label still sells the digital editions of their releases for $1 no matter what.
ep, single, expanded album etc.
all $1 each.
guess they know their market is all about the vinyl editions.
(very similar business model to the synthwave, blood music, crew i guess.)

mark e, Friday, 2 April 2021 19:35 (one month ago) link

New Causeway single 'Hide and Seek' is pretty good. Wonder if they'll release an album. Two very catchy singles so far.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 2 April 2021 20:19 (one month ago) link

why are you mad about that?

this is still one of the better run labels that I ever engage with. Love ordering from them, love their packaging, they are super responsive and all their shit looks great.

akm, Friday, 2 April 2021 23:11 (one month ago) link

cos its insanely brilliant how they have priced their digitals for those of us who purchase etc.

(and yeah, even when i have ordered cds etc, they have always added extras into the package .. )

mark e, Friday, 2 April 2021 23:38 (one month ago) link

FTR he said “it’s” not “I’m”

Evan, Friday, 2 April 2021 23:53 (one month ago) link

ahh.
cheers evan.
the penny drops as to that response.
i was wondering etc.

mark e, Friday, 2 April 2021 23:59 (one month ago) link

Johnny Jewel’s love life always seemed a bit sketchy to me - he has pretty much had a romantic relationship with every one of his collaborators/signed artists: Ruth Radelet, Ida No, Megan Louise - to name the most important ones. It almost seems to be a requisite to date him if you want to be in his label/band/production credits. And he bounced between these projects involving his set of ex-wives/ex-lovers as if it’s business as usual. It’s too much of a red flag.

That said, I really hope there’s no weird abusive powerplays for anyone involved because I really love the musical / aesthetical aspect going on in every one of the projects in this label.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 3 April 2021 05:41 (one month ago) link

l didn’t have to date him to be on the label at one point! :D

Come on - he’s truly one of the sweetest, most genuine dudes running a label. Has always been nothing but nice when we communicate. Why do some folks always look for the worst?

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 3 April 2021 07:15 (one month ago) link

I’m honestly very relieved to read that coming from a direct source. It’d be painful to hear otherwise. I think he’s lowkey a musical genius and it’s easily one of my favorite labels of the past 20 years.

What’s your band/project name?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 3 April 2021 08:54 (one month ago) link

He's honestly a very nice guy from my dealings with him.

I had a few things on the label as Professor Genius - one of their first 12"s and After Dark Vol.1 - and have released a bunch of stuff on other labels under that name since.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 3 April 2021 09:00 (one month ago) link

Had no idea! I like your tracks on After Dark 1, especially the closer.

Thanks, tipsy! Yeah that closer track - “Pegaso” - is actually a short edit of the full track found here: templo.bandcamp.com/album/professor-genius

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 3 April 2021 12:26 (one month ago) link

Oh love your songs on that comp! I think they really sold the concept at that point and somewhat rare for the label in that they’re synthwave. Discovered the silver & kane remix of Pegaso a couple of months ago via some spotify playlist and that one is great too.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 3 April 2021 15:10 (one month ago) link

Thank you! To be honest at the time they were made I was swimming in Italo and Cosmic sounds as influences. Synthwave is a term I’ve only come across in the last couple of years reading stuff online but I’d be hard pressed to tell you what it sounds like. It’s just electronic music to me.
“Nu Disco” was the term used in press and some shops for this stuff then (‘07, ‘08).

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 3 April 2021 15:18 (one month ago) link

But Mike S and Johnny championed my stuff from the beginning and were excited about putting it out there. I think it was a case of the right place, right time :)

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 3 April 2021 15:19 (one month ago) link

Yeah I love “pegaso”!! That one squiggly italo synth lead part makes my heart sing

brimstead, Saturday, 3 April 2021 16:36 (one month ago) link

thread delivers.
had no idea re the ILM vs IDIB connections.
to have a couple of tracks on such a seminal compilation like AD vol 1 is quite a thing.
and yeah, as others have said, they are cracking tracks CJV.
been loving AD vol 3 today.

mark e, Saturday, 3 April 2021 16:55 (one month ago) link

There’s other connections. Mike might deny it but I’d say I contributed a great deal to mike and by extension probably Jonny’s interest in italo. I mean they both like to deny the influence of Italo on Italians do it better but that’s just silly anyway.

dan selzer, Saturday, 3 April 2021 17:12 (one month ago) link

xpost Thanks fellow ILMers. Making hearts sing is what it’s all about ! Very happy to know the music means something to you!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 3 April 2021 17:30 (one month ago) link

late to the convo, but after dark vol 1 is connected to a lovely time in my life and "pegaso" in particular is connected with a special memory of playing it at one of the first big parties i ever DJ'd, i have incredible images in my mind of my friends dancing to that song as fog and light spill out of the back of a moving truck in the woods :)

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 5 April 2021 15:39 (one month ago) link


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