the occasional thread for mean, nasty, ugly, evil metal that doesn't smell good and that takes itself way too seriously

yay a thread for people like me, run by people like me, talking about music made for people like me!

They're called Accidental Suicide, the album is titled Deceased, it's from 1992, the cover art was done by the bassist from Cradle of Filth, and they're on Grind Core records. Lots of cookie monster growling and killer guitar solos.

i 'knew' those dudes via tape-trading, i'm pretty sure (i have their demo around somewhere, unlabelled with no cover so it usually takes a listen to remember what the fuck it is). did eric greif produce that? he produced fucking everything from that scene (milwaukee area) - morbid saint, morta skuld, viogression...

also i just got coffins "other side of blasphemy." plug ugly autopsy/winter/c. frost worship. and the tondra/nordic mist split, two bands featuring nunslaughter and minch (!) members, both seemingly named after drink mixers, both sounding more or less like celtic frost.

oh yeah, and entety "cadaveric necrogrind" is like carcass without the brains. or with the brains SPLATTERED ON YER FUCKIN WALL.

"and the tondra/nordic mist split"

hahaha, it's funny, isn't it! and fucking demented.

seriously though, do you want NOISE!!!!??? the Ganzmord album will fuck your ears until you are BLIND! so cool.

http://www.negativityrecords.com/images/icons/ganzmord.monolithic.web.jpg

xp: it is pretty fucking funny, actually, especially the way NM dicks up the vocals every third line. but he has the TG cadence fucking down, plus the occasional WTF? misuse of an english word.

will have to check out ganzmord

and on the basement bm tip, you could do worse than japan's endless dismal moan. very very cool indeed.

http://www.negativityrecords.com/images/icons/edm-lon.web.jpg

anyone like SCEPTER? or are you all PUSSIES?

Black eyes stare at the sun
Burning wheel in the sky
Frozen hearts turn to fire
(As) sunset bleeds into night
Energy bolts for power and spell
Are harnessed from death and despair
Weapons of war are begging for blood
UNLEASH THE FUCKING SLAYER!

Never lost never drawn
Never to be guiled
Harder than tempered steel
Born to lose live to win
Fuck'em till you die
Your only thought is to kill
When you're obsessed by metal

Slave and master side by side
Or one beneath the other
Only one of them can have the power
Whether by the demons
Or of the burning sword
They say the same get on your knees
And suck your fucking lord

Obsessed by metal
Obsessed by death
Obsessed by black desire
Obsessed by power beyond my control
Obsessed by fucking fire
Obsessed by fury
Obsessed by hatred
Obsessed by vengeance and lust
Fuck off and die 'cause we gotta live
WE ARE OBSESSED BY METAL

singer is now in HELLREALM. they're this-thread, too.

pretty cool mp3 up on ganzmord's site from the ganzmord/dodsferd split. the split is cool, but dodsferd ends up sounding like a rockabilly act after ganzmord's half.

http://www.ganzmord.com/

if you were gonna actually BUY one, i would say buy the monolithic album. which is an old demo and new stuff. it makes me want to kill rabbits with my bare hands!!

el sabor, are you down with the New Wave Of Latino Thrash? i am. they rule. and they don't give a SHIT about ANYTHING except thrash fuckin' metal.

merciless death:

http://www.myspace.com/mercilessdeath

fueled by fire:

http://www.myspace.com/fueledbyfire

violator:

http://www.myspace.com/viothrash

eternal devastation:

http://www.myspace.com/eternaldevastationthrash

sociofobia:

http://www.myspace.com/sociofobia

wardeath:

http://www.myspace.com/wardeaththrash

slaver:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=74397371

crucifier:

http://www.myspace.com/crucifiergreece

comando nuclear:

http://www.myspace.com/comandonuclear

witchaven:

http://www.myspace.com/witchaven

street force:

http://www.myspace.com/streetforcethrash

infantry:

http://www.myspace.com/thrashtokill

warbringer:

http://www.myspace.com/warbringer

hatchet:

http://www.myspace.com/hatchet2006

sakrificer:

http://www.myspace.com/sakrificer

malicious assault:

http://www.myspace.com/maliciousassault

a couple of those might not actually be cali or south american thrash, but they might as well be!

i love the Merciless Death album. those dudes are on fire. their influences:

The following bands in no particular order : Slayer - Exodus - Anthrax - Testament - Death Angel - Dark Angel - Possessed - Vio-Lence - Exumer - Voivod - Kreator - Destruction - Sodom - Venom - Sepultura - Nasty Savage - Nuclear Assault - Overkill - Metal Church - Sabbat (UK)- Sabbat (Jap)- Mortal Sin - Exciter - Annihilator - Agent Steel - D.R.I. - Celtic Frost - Iron Angel - Assassin - Sacrifice - Slaughter (Canada) - Acid Reign - Korzus - Coroner - Darkness - Paradox - Blessed Death - Deathrow - Artillery - Razor - Heathen - Forbidden - Death (Scream Bloody Gore and Leprosy) - Necronomicon - Sarcofago - M.O.D. - Exorcist - Devastation - Whiplash - Vendetta - Blood Feast - Morbid Saint - Powerlord - Vulcano - Accuser - Apocalypse - Coven - Onlaught - Atomkraft - Sentinel Beast - Hell Bastard - Gothic Slam - Evil Dead - Flotsam and Jetsam - Hirax - Viking - Laaz Rockit - Abbatoir - Num Skull - Deathwish - Mutilator - Destructor - Torture - Violent Force - Kublai Khan - Slaughter Lord - Rigor Mortis - S.O.D. - Sadus - Virus (UK Thrash) - Sacred Reich - Anacrusis - Mercenary (Bay Area) - Acrophet - Dream Death - Poison (Germany) - Warrant (Germany) - Mercyful Fate - Morbid Angel - Deicide WE ARE VINYL/CD/CASSETTE/VHS COLLECTORS OF ALL THE BANDS WE HAVE LISTED!

Hrmm, so uhh, is it just me or is that Ganzmord song basically polka with some chaotic grindy bits between verses? I guess it doesn't swing enough for that to be quite true, but this song is way too happy to be evil. I did like the Bad Brains section. Could do without the Death-style bridge.

I think there's something in me that in effect strips off all the noise and screaming and takes the melody/beat to the fore. This kind of sucks, because it makes a lot of these evil bands sound surprisingly happy. Often rockabilly-like (Heretic come to mind)
Maybe I've simply lost my black metal listening-skills. [insert bit about "faggots don't like $band it hurts their pussys"]
I just don't feel the grim any more!
I did consider going to see Nunslaughter live, but suspect I'd be sick of it in 10 minutes, just like I was with the (admittedly funny) live record I used to have.

So, fuck it all. Thrash is where it's at. I'm gonna go put on some Terror Squad! Discö bloody discö!

ganzmord makes me happy! there is some GREAT noise on the album. i still like the stuff from the split though too. the stuff from the demo on the album is the most over-the-top skreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee noise. in a year, he'll probably be scoring operas and forming bm supergroups.

also digging archival french speed from 84:

http://www.hellsheadbangers.com/accelerationprocess.jpg

DOLLAR GORE RULES.

How about free gore? My husband did security at one of the Metal Fests in Milwaukee (Hawkwind, do you live there?) eons ago and came home with a stack of free CDs. One title I'll never forget was Inbreeding The Anthropophagi (had to look up "anthropophagi") by Deeds of Flesh who might be too girlie for this thread. Also remember a song called "Chunks in the Shower" which AMG tells me is by Deeds of Flesh as well. But other "chunks" titles came up and I came across this album by one Broken Hope:

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:dcfwxq9hld6e

Titles seem promising beyond "She Came Out In Chunks": "Coprophagia" (know that word!), "Hobo Stew," "Decimated Genitalia," and, my favorite, "Felching Vampires." No nun rape, though, unless "Preacher of Sodomy" preaches thusly. And you gotta love that parental advisory sticker.

Aside: you should check out nunsploitation cinema if you haven't already. Start with Alucarda and then move your way down. I can't get enough of the stuff.

Hey my buddy's in a pretty good Mexican thrash band:

http://www.myspace.com/muertevilla

ahh, scott - i'm so glad you dig morsure, i mentioned them on rolling metal and no one seemed to give a shit. that album's fucking great. i said it somewhere else and i'll say it here: the metal urbain of thrash.

going to have to check out the latino thrash links later, but i remember in the late 80s when the mexican dudes started getting into the scene in a big way, some killer bands and many of them didn't get past the demo stage. sadistic intent and nausea/terrorizer did, though.

I was listening to Karma Bloody Karma by Cattle Decapitation yesterday - does that count or are they too pussy for this thread, I mean they are vegans and everything?

The Morsure is rad! I only just got it, which is why i couldn't comment before.

a lot of the non-Cali thrash bands are from Brazil. Like Slaver:

http://a884.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01385/38/86/1385836883_l.jpg

http://a450.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00731/94/45/731945449_l.jpg

i dig cattle decapitation. i don't care if they are vegan. it's not like i can tell they are vegan from the music. and even if they sucked, they would always be classic just for this:

http://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/files/2006/07/az_1478_Humanure_Cattle%20Decapitation.jpg

OMGLOL. I haven't seen that one before.

japanese hentai-inspired goregrind is the best kind of hentai-inspired goregrind:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2OXKogY0zz8

amoebic dysentery:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hk8cZ2LVBQA&mode=related&search=

-vs-

pulmonary fibrosis:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7N4DyWEPFk4&mode=related&search=

dammit man i was about to go get lunch 3xpost

herman neuname wrote on the other metal thread:

"I bought the Whitehorse 2xCD from 20 Buck Spin."

i like it. i'd never heard whitehorse before. they do the ugly epic doom thing very well. i might like that monarch! double cd on crucial blast more though. maybe.

you know what i REALLY like is the stormcrow/sanctum split that 20 buck spin sent me. but i'm a sucker for a d beat. stormcrow and sanctum call their music WAR CRUST. which is a great tag. i wonder what last fm would come up with if i typed that in.

also got the new one from Forgotten Woods. from Norway. first album in over 10 years! they must have gotten lost in those woods. or they forgot to make a record. in the woods. i'm sad that oystein doesn't feel the grim anymore :( that means that geir is the lone grim Norwegian on ilm. and that is really sad!

Putrid Pile you guys

seriously

at MDF dude was unfuckinghinged and made noises without any vocal effects that were, 'ow you say, SIIIIIIIIIIIICK

Putrid Pile have a new album coing out on the ever-loveable Goregiastic Records:

http://www.goregiasticrecords.com/

that new Forgotten Woods album is pretty fucked. Kinda mellow for this thread though. They must smoke a lot of pot. What kind of pot do you get in Norway?

oh man Foetopsy's on Goregiastic - they were one of my favorites at MDF, their album isn't breakin' a lot of ground but it sure is breakin' a lot of grind har har har! fuckin' love those guys

got Moribund mail yesterday too. new Drawn And Quartered album sounds nice. MERCILESS HAMMER OF LUCIFER! also new Hacavitz which i'm looking forward to and new Godless Rising featuring dudes from Vital Remains.

have you heard the new Drawn And Quartered, John? i would think you would like it.

got the latest issue of SOD in the mail the other day too. kinda disappointed that Lordi were on the cover. And also kinda disappointed that the cd was just a southern lord sampler. they usually have great death label comps. oh well. still a great issue overall of one of my fave mags.

haven't heard it, no - feel like I saw it though! will poke around

the thing about Foetopsy that makes them great though is that they don't take themselves seriously AT ALL - dude was wearing a belt made up of tampons onstage

dud of the week: seizure crypt album. dudes trying to revive old skool (but not that old) NYHC but it's really anemic. don fury production and all that, but so flat. half sung/half rapped (kinda) shit. i'd rather listen to judge. or madball. or sick of it all. definitely did NOT provide the "unbridled crossover ferocity" that it advertised. where's my token entry reunion! (there probably was one. what the hell do i know? i think everyone has reunited four times by now.)

NYHC is so often anaemic and weak if it's not done right. I can see why a lot of HC fans just write off the whole genre. I mean I do most of the time! I like old Agnostic Front though. Their 3rd album sucked so much shit I never bothered with anything after.

I will be downloading Foetopsy :)

finally getting around to the Vital Remains's Icons of Evil...fuck do I ever love this band

not as great as "Dechristianize" yet but we'll see

fucking GUITAR SOLOS up in this bitch, proper stuff

i love the first two agnostic front albums too. cause for alarm is so awesome. wish i still had a copy. it's been so long since i heard the third album. i don't think i hated it. it was metallic, i remember that.

It was metallic but in a really feeble and powerless way. Like a lot of crossover. Even good crossover stuff like DRI and COC has songs that just fall flat and 3rd AF is a whole album of that.

I'm not a big crossover fan though, in general.

I tend to like "proper" hardcore punk, or thrash metal, much more than most attempts to combine the two.

I like Cryptic Slaughter a lot. And Dead Horse.

this hacavitz is the shit. drummer is just going nuts. i love that they recorded it as a duo. very very cool album so far.

honestly, this is probably my favorite crossover album of all time and i know people who HATE it with a passion:

http://xclaim.com/images/hwr.gif

i mean, i can't even tell you how many times i've played that album. 500 times? i do love dri, but my love for their early days knows no bounds.

i guess i wasn't really that much of a skate punk fan in the 80's. speaking of which, Mcrad have a new album out.

i took to thrash like a fish to water though.

I've never heard that SSD album. I'm not a huge fan of theirs though, compared to other Boston bands like DYS, Jerry's Kids, Negative FX, Freeze etc.

Hacavitz album is definitely my pick of the week. great black/death action. great riffs. insane drummer. gnarly solos. punk energy and feel. total sweetness. oh, and completely fugly.

"i guess i wasn't really that much of a skate punk fan in the 80's."

although i loved jfa with a passion. there are always exceptions.

not 'old', but kind of obsessed with the band Fluids lately. many call this the "Mortician-clone", some pejoratively, some in praise, but it's somewhat unfair. the main similarities are that they have programmed drums (but much quieter and more subtle than Mortician's endless battering ram), really sub-zero detuned guitar/bass and the vocals aren't too different, but riff-wise, they like to play hella fucking slow, whereas Mortician often do fast deathgrind that can be an incomprehensible blur of power chords at times. Fluids like to slow it down and pummel. Like Mortician also, no solos.

but they also do a lot of synth work, sometimes between songs or as an intro to songs, and it's unsettling. oh, and the final similarity is the soundbites, though Fluids doesn't take theirs from movies, but real life horrors.

if you're into things like complex riffing or, idk, significant variance, look elsewhere, but when I'm in the mood for this oppressive shit, it's pretty great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWj8552nJZc

though Fluids doesn't take theirs from movies, but real life horrors

this is basically why i don’t like them nearly as much as mortician. kicking off with your record with a guy reading his suicide note before presumably offing himself is just not my idea of a good time.

always loved horror movies, always hated faces of death…

Nean, thanks for posting Fluids. I could live w/o the intros too but I am sitting here at a laptop banging my head with joy to these fucking grotesque riffs.

Mutiilation - Vampires of Black Imperial Blood

Good shit! I always liked Suffer the Gestalt or whatever a lot too. And Black Millennium had its moments, think it gets downrated because he pretending to kill himself before it was releases or something.

really into this band i heard on the radio, Visceral Reaction. i guess they're in high school? lol. i think it's awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZPK3ivVFoU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK4nPyt9Yb8

https://mesacounojo.bandcamp.com/album/suppuration-morphog-n-siaque

Sedimentum

this person has great playlists. demos, obscurities. some real dirty gems in there.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKGPQujnvIswq0aQcrGr9NmM62Q6JmGzI

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKGPQujnvIsyh7SgmNuaisZXpXmHc9f4P

for instance, this one. love this! chicago-area band. never did anything else i don't think. but i'm sure these guys went on to other bands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKcs3vb_UO4

really enjoying this. black/death stuff. they have a new EP. gonna play that next.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxUDYMGQyH8

this also speaks to me. guess i'm just in a blackdeath mood. i blame the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la1I0pBhq7Y

love this! (hard to find a copy of the reissue in the u.s. but i will prevail.)

https://larvaerec.bandcamp.com/album/gangrena-infected-ideologies

:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzQteBZY-eM

this makes my top ten of the year. if i had one. love the atmosphere. and its from the states too! which surprises me for some reason. maybe because i love it. but there are people hidden away doing good things here. hiding. hiding makes sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4x70_zYNuk

(to be fair to americans who don't hide i really did like that Horrendous album a lot and they are very popular in that world of theirs...)

There's a new Petrification album coming out in February. They're from Portland, Oregon, but they're on Svart, a label from Finland. Anyway, here's "Twisted Visions of Creation":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzg7l7iN_dc

amazing artwork too!

https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a0333397984_10.jpg

i bought stuff from NWN on vinyl. the stuff i don't love will go in the store. some stuff i just needed for myself like the undergang and grave upheaval records. it all belongs on this thread though:

Mefitic "Woes of Mortal Devotion"
Bunkur / Mordor Split
The Satan's Scourge "Threads of Subconscious Torment"
Howls of Ebb / Khthoniik Cerviiks Split
Detritivore "Pakt"
Har "Baal Ha'ov"
Undergang "Aldrig i livet"
Undergang "Misantropologi"
V/A Vestibule of Hell LP + Booklet
Capitis Damnare "Ex Regnum Spiritus in Manifestus"
Funerary "Starless Aeon"
Adversvm "Aion Sitra Ahra"
Sete Star Sept "Beast World"
Sektarism "Hosanna Sathana"
Sator Marte "Termonuklearni Evoluce"
Deep Desolation "Boski Jad"
Blasphamagoatachrist "Bastardizing the Purity"
Pneuma Hagion "Demiurge"
Pneuma Hagion "Voidgazer"
V/A "Far East Gate In Inferno" Double LP (Sabbat, Sigh, etc.)
Trifixion (Venezuela) “Demo 1996″
Grave Upheaval "1st Album"
Grave Upheaval "Demo" LP
Mortuary Drape "Secret Sudaria" Double LP
Cerebral Rot "Excretion of Mortality"
Cénotaphe "La Larve Exulte"
Blasphemy "Fallen Angel of Doom...."

oh man that petrification video speaks to me. also, luring sounds great.

this is kind of 'random old metal' but i think fits this thread. i got curious about seeing what kevin drumm interviews were floating around out there, and in one of them he mentions this band from edmonton, revenge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WKDTU8_790

love Cerebral Rot

i never get tired of this record. someone should reissue it. unheralded sludge classic! i might have heralded it in Decibel Mag at the time. definitely one of my fave rock records of the 21st century.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVitmgve--s

got a copy in at the store that still has the wooden match in it. keeping it.

https://i.discogs.com/LNSKynBuZA9P4ltRHcjnZCVPtOJUvwkmK5E_5YeMr5Q/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:400/w:457/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTExMTcx/NDA4LTE1MTExNzg0/OTMtODI5Ni5qcGVn.jpeg

Aha I remember this

one of my bleaker reviews! from 2007? my economic message is almost Trumpian here. who knew? i was in a bad mood.

Defcon 4 - The Bad Road
You ever see the movie Defcon 4? Yeah, me neither. Or wait, did I? Eh, probably. Who knows anymore. I’m so jaded when it comes to kitschy apocalyptica. And my memory is poor. And I’ve seen a million movies. Today at work I was emptying one of those big outdoor ashtrays. You know the ones. A Rubbermaid. Jesus, Rubbermaid, there’s a movie for you. Thousands of Ohioans living and dead could tell the whole dirty story while gritting their teeth at the memory of the loss and the misplaced pride. What, like the end of the world hasn’t actually come yet? You need futuristic neon dystopias to tell the tale of man’s folly? Take a look around, buddy. Anyway, this big-ass plastic ashtray with the gaping metal mouth was beyond full. The butts crammed to the top formed a single tube of soggy and yet hardened nic fit. It took forever to get them out of there. And I couldn’t help but feel like I had seen this movie before. And I had. In a way. When I was 16 and wiping shit off of supermarket bathroom walls. When I was 26 and on my hands and knees cleaning mouse shit off of dirty deli floors. And when I was 36 and changing stinky diapers by myself in a small damp house far from everyone and everything that I knew and trying to embrace the love I felt for my son, while, at the same time, ducking dark storm clouds of isolation and fear.
Which is just another way of saying that Defcon 4 are a decent Boston punk band that mixes doom and crust and sharpened Eyehategod teeth all in the service of…what? I don’t know. Another pennant? Hatred of Ben Affleck’s street cred? All I know is, from the area of the universe that gave me SSD and Converge, I expect MORE pain. And MORE convincing wails of torment. Their stylistic twists and turns aren’t as compelling as the more advanced cosmic crust moves of Kylesa or Baroness either. But, hey, they are young, right? I have no idea, are they? Well, they sound young. And kinda peppy even. And hanging out with Steve Austin was a good move too. Their record sounds smooth. I’m just not feeling very smooth. I give any young band the same advice I gave a guy I met last week who only has two months to live (gallbladder): It’s never too late to become a reader. You might not want to start with War & Peace though.