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dmr (Renard), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

i liked your band tripp.

M@tt He1g3s0n: oh u mad cuz im stylin on u (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

the house party in Columbia where we didn't get to play?
that was fun.

naw, Columbia was always a bright spot on tour.

from what i can remember.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

well fuck me, for some reason I thought S. told me that you guys did one last gig in LV for some festival? Or maybe I made that up. Sorry for the mis-information dudes. did I dream the potential re-union from a few years back, too? (I would guess this info would've been filtered thru JET and/ or A.J0nes)

Will (will), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I was at that one
also I stayed at your place in memphis one new year's
thx for the good times

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dmr (Renard), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

(j3ff br33z3 to thread)

Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

BREEZE? Is that you?

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

nope, just trying to summon him.

Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

We reunited in 99 after TBS got dropped. Dave said it was because Joan left the band and V2 decided their 'sex appeal' was gone. Take that story with a grain of salt.
So we got the band back together and in May 2000 did a show in memphis where we played for three and ahalf hours straight, no opening act. And it was great. Maybe the best show we ever did.
We did a couple of small tours though the one in Chicago at the Empty Bottle was less than stellar because everyone was giving us shots. They wanted to see a 'fucked-up grifters show'. So I was maybe a little too drunk. I didn't fall off the stage or anything but it was a pretty sloppy show.
We came back for the Flower ten year anniversary and did a much better job.
BUT at some point me and Scott had said that we wanted to do one last album together cause we didn't want FBP to be our last record. Scott had a few songs. I had a few songs (one of which was Crashing Jet. the grifters version was about 1000% better than the Champ! version. In fact there's a live recording of it out there somewhere) But Dave never brought in any new songs. He said he couldn't get into grifters' mode. But we plowed ahead. We went into Easley/McCain's with the wonderful Stu Sikes and recorded Crashign Jet and Scott's song There's A Man. But Dave pretty much steered clear of the proceedings. THEN it turns out he had a new deal for BTL and they were leaving for a tour in the next couple of weeks (this would've been fall of 2001 believe it or not) So we realized we'd been played (hence the 'fall-back position' remark).

The analogy I always use to describe it is... it's like a girlfriend you use to have. The sex was incredible and it was a wild time BUT you fought a lot and she was always flirting with other guys. So you break up and it's a nasty break-up.
But a couple of years later you run into each other and enough time has passed that really all you remember is the great sex and it turns out you're both available at the time so you jump back in the sack and give things another try. Then sure enough, a week later you realize you have all the same problems you use to have and you kick yourself for being stupid enough to get back together.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

oh yeah... that was the New Year's Eve the Clears blew us off the stage.


did you move to NYC with all the other Columbians?

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

oh yeah the Clears. Wasn't that Alicia's first band? I heard a tape of that record. but i never got it after it came out. i should get it.

Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

haha yeah eventually. I lived a couple other places first. now I'm in Brooklyn. still see a bunch of those people.

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dmr (Renard), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Breeze! Here's how you summon Jeff Breeze!

KCOU KCOU 88.1 BIG STAR ALEX CHILTON JODY STEPHENS GRIFTERS MEMPHIS GREG DULLI VAN DYKE PARKS ROAD TRIP TO CHICAGO ROLLERBLADES KCOU JEFF BREEZE UP AGAINST THE WALL MOTHERFUCKER.

And nah, Tripp. It was up in the rafters of the Blue Note while Seam was playing. Grifters are still in my top five Memphis bands.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

sooooo, who are you guys?
if you don't mind me askin'


yeah, the Clears were Alicia Trout and Shelby Bryant and Brad.... something.

Alicia is like the queen of memphis now. she's awesome.
if you go to myspace look for River City Tanlines or Contaminated Records.

Shelby put out some stuff on Steve Shelly's label . Look for
Cloud Wow Music.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I forgot about the rollerblades!

Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

oh yeah, that show with Seam was when we first met you guys.
I believe you guys smoked us out that day.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

d@ve r3nard
I was PD for a while at kcou
I think the time I came to memphis it was with kristen and jennie

dmr (Renard), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Grifters, Club Soda, Kalamazoo, 96? Amazing. You guys and Royal Trux were my most very favorite bands during my college years. I still dig ya hard. Crappin is my fave, with One Sock Missing and Sub Pop 10" close behind. I thought the last two records were just a little too clean sounding.

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

We didn't mix FBP which I think was the problem. But Aint My lookout is unanimlously the band's favorite. It seems Crappin' is unanimously the fans' favorite.

but yeah, FBP is sorely lacking in the chaos department.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

we got the band back together and in May 2000 did a show in memphis

LPOE? If so, yeah that was on time. I tried to make the Murphy's show w/ Wallendas the other night, but was road worn. (Juicy J was, up until a couple of months ago, my boss. I know S. from when Yvonne B used to make me go to yoga with her. Ok, she didn't make me.)

Will (will), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:48 (seventeen years ago) link

If any of you guys ever see Jenny (can't remember how to spell her last name..) Tell her I said hey.

Kristen found me via the grifters myspace page so that was cool.

Stan's 15 year old son runs the grifters page but I give him stuff for it all the time.

I'll try to put up that live version of Crashing Jet sometime.


Also, if you look on our friends list and go to Flecton Big Sky that's our old friend Miche Jette. the songs on his page are from his record that features der grifters backing him up (as well as Califone). Those recordings represent the last time the grifters recorded together.

we did record 2 songs later that year but the tape was lost forever so the Flecton recordings are it.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.myspace.com/flectonbigsky

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 23:00 (seventeen years ago) link

the songs on his page are from his record that features der grifters backing him up (as well as Califone).

rad ... I will check that out

I saw Kristen a couple years ago at (drumroll) ... an nyc Bloodthirsty Lovers show. ha.

dmr (Renard), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 23:02 (seventeen years ago) link

i had one of the grifters records in college that i don't remember too well except i really liked Red Red Meat at the time and i make a connection in sound in my head w/the two bands. now that there's a califone mention, am i not making this up?

jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link

grifters and red red meat toured together, jaxon. i booked them (with rex) in college.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Red Red Meat were good friends of ours. We used to tour together a lot.

I still see Tim whenever Califone's in town. Which is never enough for me.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

now I'm gonna listen to One Sock Missing tonight

dmr (Renard), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 23:30 (seventeen years ago) link

if you guys stop by the Dragoon page every now and then in the next month I'll try to repost all our stuff. Which, honestly, a lot of it pro-tools tomfoolery. We're trying to get our first record recorded in the next few months.

http://www.myspace.com/dragoonmemphis


Also, if you frequent the BOB page, right now I'm kind of posting stuff from our tenth grade year (1982 or so) but pretty quickly it'll get into our eh.. less-goofy years and you can start to hear me and Stan find our footing as musicians.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 23:45 (seventeen years ago) link

oh.. if you look at dragoon's pics page you'll see not only Stan in all his drastic-weight-loss glory but if you look closely at the 4 track that's the 4 track der grifters recorded so much stuff on.

still works.

you have to be a huge nerd to give a shit.

I'm sorry I broke up your black panther party.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 00:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Send all fan mail to THE GRIFTERS c/o Raleigh Springs Mall, Memphis.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 00:22 (seventeen years ago) link

oh my god. I thought I was posting in a field of relative strangers.


I've made a huge mistake.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 00:40 (seventeen years ago) link

..is--

Is this the Goner board!??! AW SHIT!!

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 00:42 (seventeen years ago) link

jk

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 00:53 (seventeen years ago) link

grifters. red red meat. rex. i remember that tour. i saw it at the bowling alley in chicago.

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 09:38 (seventeen years ago) link

tripp! hey man -- great to read through this thread, and see you're doing well, and to hear the story with the reunion, etc. the "soda pop" single is one of my favorite rock and roll records, easy peasy. am psyched to check out your new band and stuff!

somewhere i still have awesome 4 track cassette recording of that show at barking legs in chattanooga (also known as the one where ***kicked*** that exercise ball into the overhead light, and better known to me personally as the first date with my ex-wife).

speaking of wives, when stan jokingly introduced me to his wife as "the fifth grifter," i was so totally weirdly elated by that. hah.

Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 09:53 (seventeen years ago) link

thshould read: YOU kicked... just so's you remember the show; i certainly hold no grudges!

Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 09:55 (seventeen years ago) link

man i cannot fricking type. toomuchcoffee.

Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 09:57 (seventeen years ago) link

MIKE! Whassup mang?! yeah, of course i remember that Chattanooga show. that was our best SCTV moment ever. I'm just glad nobody was hurt. yknow cause the brunt of the lawsuit would've landed on me. ha.

Used to talk to your little brother sometimes but it's durn good to hear from you. When's the new Yeti coming out?

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Crappin You Negative and Eureka E.P. are two of my all-time favorites.

Piddlebach is the coolest fucking song ever recorded.

I am done here.

J. Grizzle (trainsmoke), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i miss being able to see y'all, but am v. happy to hear about Dragoon. i did get to see that last Flower Booking anniv. show (which was great), but my favorite was seeing you guys on FIRE at the Khyber around 1994 or so (with Bardo Pond and Versus, if I remember correctly) -- you got permission from the mayor to rope the place off and light up, which most of the audience then did.

city worker (bmcnee), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

good times. Definitely one of the most hilarious acid trips ever was with the Strapping Fieldhands in Philly. Funniest part was slinking into some greasy spoon down the street from the Khyber Pass just as the sun was coming up. Me and Scott and Bob malloy and 4 or 5 other people. Some old guy in the diner got up and threw open the blinds and started screaming 'BURN! BURN!' at us like we were vampires.

Bardo Pond's done pretty good for themselves, eh?
We had a collective band-crush on Isobel.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I am a complete stranger who sadly never even saw you live but felt the need to turn up and say that the Grifters were great (or at least what I've heard, which is nothing before Crappin') and this is an awesome thread revival that will see me digging out my Grifters cds, tracking down the releases I never had and listening to the tracks Tripp mentioned again in a new light. Thanks! Please "nerd up" the board some more.

ALSO I listened the hell out of the Shelby Bryant album after a friend picked it up by chance on emusic and loved it, and it just seemed so totally out there that I don't know if I'm excited to read that he was in other bands or if I don't want to hear them in case he begins to make sense. It tickles pretty much the opposite neurons to the Grifters for me though, just as a warning to anyone who might scratch their heads at my excitement.

Rebecca (reb), Thursday, 1 February 2007 05:23 (seventeen years ago) link

x-post -- the new YETI is in 2 1/2 months! should be fun. my brother is doing swell and says hey.

Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Thursday, 1 February 2007 12:37 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.smellslikerecords.com/theclears/index.php?artist=The%20Clears


everyone should own the Clears' first (only?) cd.

Every single track is fantastic AND it was recorded in my old apartment (by Roy Berry)

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

was brad pounders in the clears?

and have we mentioned the simple ones yet? that's kinda mandatory with a grifters/memphis/indie thread.

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:41 (seventeen years ago) link

btw, going to shangri-la records in 94 was such a huge deal for me. i took a train from kalamazoo, mi, to memphis BECAUSE i was so into all this memphis stuff

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:43 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.myspace.com/jettywebb


this is a band I played with from late 98 to 2001.
I wasn't doing too much musically after the grifters'
initial demise so I was elated when my friends Stu Sikes
and Brian McKay called and asked me to join.

Initially the band was the 2 of them with Max Tepper.
Max moved back to NYC and started the band Natural History
but we carried on with some guest guitarists. One of whom was
Tim Prudhomme who lived in Mempho for about 5 years.

If you listen to the song Song In F you can hear pretty much
every guitarist who ever played in the band. It was a song Max
kinda started, then he left. In fact, when Max he announced it
to me first and the first thing out of my mouth was "Can we keep
Song in F?!"

So Max wrote a good chunk of the verse, Brian wrote the chorus
and I more or less came up with the bridge (bridges are my specialty)
and on the bridge you can hear Max's guitar, Brian's, Tim's, Jared McStay's, and Jerome's. (as well as my bass and I also laid down all the electric piano and mellotron.) So that one part of the song features performances recorded over the course of a year and a half.

It was pretty sweet being in a band with Stu because it meant we got to practice at Easley/McCain's. And record there for free basically.

If you like what you hear you can order it from Shangri-La.

http://www.shangri.com/cd_memphisindie.html

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Brad Pounders. yes.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll do the history of the Simpletones in a bit.


ALSO I should mention that Max left us Song In F before any lyrics were written so we all took a try at writing them but ultimately we took a poem my wife wrote and rearranged it slightly. Then Jerome and Lori McStay sang it.

My wife cried just a little bit the first time she heard it.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Jetty Webb finally broke up after Brian got transferred to Connecticut
and Stu moved back to Dallas where he began his meteoric rise to power as an engineer extraordinaire.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Already happened. Video at http://www.rocketscienceaudio.com/ (you have to register)

Wandering Boy Poet, Monday, 18 November 2013 13:11 (ten years ago) link

Yeah but... I want to see them on the east coast :(

Evan, Monday, 18 November 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link

Wandering Boy Poet - thanks so much for the almighty link.

Given that they won't be visiting Ol' blighty again, any clues as to how to save this vid in case it walks?

Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 22:52 (ten years ago) link

It's some annoying new format. I've grabbed the (literally) 1000 or so fragments, but the methods for joining them don't seem to work for me (& I haven't got anything that'll play the fragments). Need to get back onto researching it.

Wandering Boy Poet, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link

Cheers WBT. please keep me updated. Not been lazy there, I'm just not tech and too fucking burnt out to learn

Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Thursday, 21 November 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link

I haven't tried it, but the Firefox "Download Helper" add-on might work. It doesn't catch on to every web player but you can get lucky.

Evan, Thursday, 21 November 2013 21:14 (ten years ago) link

Evan. Thanks. Hopefully you have e mail?

Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Saturday, 23 November 2013 10:25 (ten years ago) link

five months pass...

i just dug out the eureka ep for the first time in…a decade?

some observations just because i wonder what this sounds like to other people almost 20 years on

eureka iv -- i still like this song, although what was up with gold boys and ray guns in the 90s? it sounds weird now.
his jesus song -- awesome, still love this and i would not mind being in this band
x-ray hip -- what the fucking fuck is going on with the singing/lyrics in this song. awful. otherwise it's fine but not memorable
there's also a song that sounds like an alex chilton impersonator

i guess part of it held up ok. that's not bad! the only song i could really get into was his jesus song. this video is pretty awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=995hAm-wcys

Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link

Relistened to it, still think it's their most solid release, though other albums contain some better songs.

I've always linked Eureka with Urge Overkill's Stull EP from a few years previous. Comes right between the promising/catchy/eccentric minor league album and the major label jump. Features an eclectic bunch of stuff, some much more accessible than anything previous, some out-there. Like a last-minute housecleaning before getting more focused. Actually there's a bit of similarity between the two bands' career arcs, probably due to the state of the music business at the time more than anything else, I'd guess. Especially:

Supersonic Storybook/Crappin You Negative
Eureka/Stull
Ain't My Lookout/Saturation
Full Blown Possession/Exit The Dragon

dlp9001, Thursday, 1 May 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link

One Sock Missing is my favorite Grifters album, and one of my favorite albums from the 90's.

I only saw them once at a small bar around '95? They were good and sloppy or sloppy good I guess.

I still remember some drunk from the back kept yelling out, "Rolling Stones!"

I guess I could see them covering a couple of the 'Exile' songs.

nicky lo-fi, Thursday, 1 May 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link

mmhmm

Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:27 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

Grifters show in September at Gonerfest and two in November in NYC

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2014/08/memphis_legends.html

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dmr, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 02:08 (nine years ago) link

got my tickets for Glasslands already. thinkin I'll go to both of the new york ones. one of my favorite live bands of all time.

dmr, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 02:09 (nine years ago) link

see u at mercury lounge

mookieproof, Saturday, 23 August 2014 03:03 (nine years ago) link

high five

dmr, Saturday, 23 August 2014 13:29 (nine years ago) link

I need to get on this.

Evan, Saturday, 23 August 2014 13:48 (nine years ago) link

awesome, got glasslands tickets.

adam, Saturday, 23 August 2014 14:28 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

I just saw this, and it was too great not to mention. Bunch of blue-collar guys just jamming on the street. I'm guessing they'll do a Bad Company cover...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL6ctSaNQVg

dlp9001, Friday, 8 April 2016 22:23 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

Oh, to be, the state of the art, of boho/alt

calstars, Saturday, 9 March 2019 21:24 (five years ago) link

nobody loves babies in bars
better than yourself

mookieproof, Saturday, 9 March 2019 21:28 (five years ago) link

Still salty I missed the NYC show in 2014.

Evan, Saturday, 9 March 2019 21:45 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

Cool jerk
No particular slogan
Signs are for the bottomless pit
Where nobody's going

earlnash, Thursday, 1 April 2021 01:57 (three years ago) link

love that song so much

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 April 2021 09:12 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

i am

the mambo king

― mookieproof, Monday, April 19, 2010 1:31 AM (twelve years ago)

Wrapped tight in my tarantula skin

― CaptainLorax, Monday, April 19, 2010 2:45 AM (twelve years ago)

mookieproof, Monday, 11 July 2022 23:20 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

The situation's growing hopelеss
So I pretended not to noticе

earlnash, Sunday, 4 September 2022 20:05 (one year ago) link


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