Scott Walker. (RIP March 2019)

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Me am upset. Links no work for me. Anyone else own a mac and having similar probs?

Jamie Conway (Jamie Conway), Friday, 19 September 2003 05:26 (twenty years ago) link

I was able to download that new Zip link mentioned up above just fine...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 September 2003 05:28 (twenty years ago) link

Working now. Must have been overloaded. Thanks. Here we go!

Jamie Conway (Jamie Conway), Friday, 19 September 2003 05:46 (twenty years ago) link

I was able to get them all fine on my mac. the website took a few tries to load, but it worked. Yeah, Maria Bethania is a great song.

A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 19 September 2003 06:05 (twenty years ago) link

note to retort pouch: i'll post the track listings for the box set on my blog this weekend.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 19 September 2003 08:16 (twenty years ago) link

Best thread ever.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 19 September 2003 08:51 (twenty years ago) link

haha, a cover of bobby conn's 'maria b'!

RJG (RJG), Friday, 19 September 2003 11:46 (twenty years ago) link

would anyone be willing to burn these on a cd (or cds) for me?

amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 19 September 2003 14:48 (twenty years ago) link

I'd be glad to, amateurist. Just email me your address.

Marcello - thanks, looking forward to that.

retort pouch (retort pouch), Friday, 19 September 2003 16:32 (twenty years ago) link

Oh oh, how about me? (Maybe one of the Glas ilxors w. broadband?)

David. (Cozen), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:28 (twenty years ago) link

sometime.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:42 (twenty years ago) link

haha, a cover of bobby conn's 'maria b'!

RJG, I don't know if you're kidding or not, but if you haven't heard the original version of "Maria Bethania" by Caetano Veloso, you should really really download it. I love it to death. Walker's version is good, but disappointingly faithful to the original.

Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:47 (twenty years ago) link

is anyone here in the uk or france? i'll be in france and wouldn't want someone in the usa (or myself) to pay the heavy shipping across the sea.

amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 19 September 2003 21:35 (twenty years ago) link

aside: I think Bobby Conn's version of "Maria Bethania" is one of the worst covers I've ever heard, ever. And I like Bobby Conn, so go figure.

hstencil, Friday, 19 September 2003 21:41 (twenty years ago) link

Anyone who's interested should check out the Scott Walker group in Yahooo. Cedric, who's site y'all are raving about, posts regularly.

Libby, Monday, 22 September 2003 02:16 (twenty years ago) link

In my previous posting, beware the errant apostrophe! A thousand apologies.

Libby

libby, Monday, 22 September 2003 03:58 (twenty years ago) link

its' ok

amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 22 September 2003 05:04 (twenty years ago) link

sometime?

David. (Cozen), Monday, 22 September 2003 17:48 (twenty years ago) link

does anyone happen to know on which label 5 Easy Pieces will be released?

scott pl. (scott pl.), Thursday, 25 September 2003 05:18 (twenty years ago) link

According to musica.co.uk, it's released on Universal :
http://www.musica.co.uk/musica/screen__PRODUCT/shop__MUS/affiliate__INTGOOGLE/category__PP685964.htm

Cedric, Friday, 3 October 2003 06:16 (twenty years ago) link

And now MP3 the site is down. Before I get to download anything. Sob.

harveyw (harveyw), Friday, 3 October 2003 08:27 (twenty years ago) link

i was never able to access it! sob indeed.

there's something off about the idea of a scott box set. how does one excerpt "tilt" anyhow?

amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 3 October 2003 09:26 (twenty years ago) link

Agreed about the box set. Anyone have any thoughts about this:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scottwalker/message/162

If it's real, it sounds more interesting than the box set!

proggist, Friday, 3 October 2003 10:04 (twenty years ago) link

i was never able to access it! sob indeed.

Amateurist, I'd still be delighted to burn discs for you and propel them across the ocean. Just send me your address.

Anyway, it seems the MP3 downloads are down, "temporarily" but they have been replaced by a video clip from Scott's TV show which is well worth watching. HAHA look at his hair.

retort pouch (retort pouch), Saturday, 4 October 2003 01:39 (twenty years ago) link

His hair is fab! I wish I could look just like that every day.

Sean (Sean), Saturday, 4 October 2003 01:50 (twenty years ago) link

Sean I agree, my HAHA was a HAHA of pure delight.

retort pouch (retort pouch), Saturday, 4 October 2003 01:59 (twenty years ago) link

Whoa, I didn't see that post by Cedric further up the page. Cedric, many thanks for hosting those MP3s - I've been looking for those songs for YEARS. I hope your bandwidth wasn't raped too badly. If you've been hit with a crushingly huge bill from your ISP, please let me know.

retort pouch (retort pouch), Saturday, 4 October 2003 02:42 (twenty years ago) link

Hi all,

The albums are back for download.
I made a single ZIP file for each album.
Each ZIP file is protected by a password.
All I ask of you is to send me an e-mail in order to get the Password for the Zip file, and not telling it. I promise fast replies !
It's the only way I found to keep an eye on the downloads without losing control...
I am glad you can all get the tracks.
Regards
Cedric

http://www.ckthual.net/scott

PS/ Regarding the video : I wish I had the same hair every morning... ;o)

Cedric, Monday, 6 October 2003 10:55 (twenty years ago) link

here is what appears to be a tracklisting for the forthcoming box.

dan (dan), Monday, 6 October 2003 20:08 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.spincds.com/walker.html

try again

dan (dan), Monday, 6 October 2003 20:10 (twenty years ago) link

Just look at that tracklist...with the late '70s Walker Brothers stuff, "Only Myself To Blame" and "I Threw It All Away" from the recent soundtracks...the money's already set.

Erick H (Erick H), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 18:42 (twenty years ago) link

box sets seem like their own imperatives now.... there's no need for this to exist, unless it's really some spontaneous desire on scott's part to revisit and reinterpret his past music (why do i doubt it?)....

amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 20:46 (twenty years ago) link

Hi all, just to notice a few change about my download section,
you can access it through www.ckthual.net, click on the music section, then scott walker.
For the first 3 albums, You need a password you'll get by writing me a mail.
I deleted the Scott Walker TV series 1 & 2, and replaced it by a single album : I made a new mix with only the Scott Walker tracks. You may already know that the quality is rather poor and that these are historical recordings.
Regards

Cedric, Thursday, 9 October 2003 15:50 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Thoughts on which are the best of these? It seems that they all have some really fine moments...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 24 October 2003 17:05 (twenty years ago) link

four months pass...
Scott Sings Songs From His TV Series is the one to get as far as I'm concerned. They're all great, but '...TV Series' is pretty much unbeatable.

retort pouch (retort pouch), Friday, 27 February 2004 04:53 (twenty years ago) link

four months pass...
hot damn "thanks for chicago mr. james" is the hottest pop picaresque in the world

amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 05:02 (nineteen years ago) link

egads!

Review by Dave Thompson
The 1990s' rediscovery of Scott Walker, hitherto the Pop Star That Time Forgot, was one of the most gratifying events of the mid 1990s. No man blessed with a voice like that, taste like that, talent like that, should ever have been consigned to the creaky oblivion of oldies radio. But one needs to tread carefully when plunging into the cult. Even at his best, and particularly at his most recent, Walker can be an excruciatingly difficult taste to acquire. Move into the early 1970s mid-point of his output, and oftentimes, it's simply excruciating.


Never regarded among Scott Walker's finest efforts, and a resounding flop when it first appeared in 1971, Til The Band Comes In is, retrospectively, the most shocking of all the singer's early albums. His first four, after all, are dramatic slabs of MOR-noir, crucial experiences for anybody anxious to discover Brel, Bergman and a taste for truly surreal pop tones; by their standards alone, surely album #5 should have traveled even further astray?


It doesn't. Two tracks culled for the It's Raining Today compilation, "Thanks For Chicago Mr James" and "Joe," are this album's sole concessions to such matters as reputation. A year earlier, the BBC gave Walker his own TV series, with the assurance that he would concentrate his tonsils on ballads and standards. He fulfilled the brief admirably, and released a soundtrack album to prove it. Unfortunately, Til The Band Comes In suggests he never got the sacharine out of his system. He even brings TV guest Esther O'Farim back into the action, but morbid curiosity and an incomprehensible fondness for "Cinderella Rockefeller" are surely the only reasons anyone could want to check out her solo contribution to the set.


There is a reasonable rendering of Roy Orbison's "It's Over," aptly closing the album on a merciful note, but while Walker's first four albums remain essential listening, and the TV LP at least has its moments, 'Til The Band Comes In is best left waiting at the stage door. Some "lost classics" were lost with good reason.


amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

"long about now" is a really interesting song, and indeed the entire first side of this record is utterly masterful.

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...
I deleted the Scott Walker TV series 1 & 2,

does anyone have track listings for these???

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 18 January 2007 07:24 (seventeen years ago) link

That review - NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST IN FIVE SECONDS

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 18 January 2007 08:27 (seventeen years ago) link

six months pass...

Someone on Ebay is offering a promo called "Scott on Screen" which appears to compile all of the TV Series album and The Moviegoer minus the last track. The seller says it's done from the master tapes and was ready to go before Walker stepped in, but it seems odd that Fontana would issue the albums in this not-quite-twofer way.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Scott-Walker-Scott-On-Screen-CD-1999_W0QQitemZ290140393933QQihZ019QQcategoryZ1049QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem

Track listing
1. Will You Still Be Mine
2. I Have Dreamed
3. When The World Was Young
4. Who Will Take My Place
5. If She Walked Into My Life (from Mame)
6. To Dream The Impossible Dream
7. Song Is You
8. Look Of Love
9. Country Girl
10. Someone To Light Up My Fire
11. Only The Young
12. Lost In The Stars
13. This Way Mary (theme from Mary Queen Of Scots)
14. Speak Softly Love (theme from The Godfather)
15. Glory Road (theme from WUSA)
16. That Night (theme from The Fox)
17. Summer Knows (theme from Summer of '42)
18. Ballad Of Sacco And Vanzetti (theme from Sacco And Vanzetti)
19. Face In The Crowd (theme from Le Mans)
20. Joe Hill (theme from The Ballad Of Joe Hill)
21. Loss Of Love (theme from Sunflower)
22. All His Children (theme from Never Give An Inch)
23. Come Saturday Morning (theme from Pookie)

Anyone know anything about this?

eatandoph, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 02:45 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

What in heaven's name is he going on about in "We Came Through"? That song's been a favourite of mine for years and years and I still have no idea whatsoever.

Yeah, I know Scott's not the most straightforward songwriter anyway, but most of the other songs from that era are reasonably easy to parse, though flowery and filled with metaphors. With "We Came Through" I'm just completley lost.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 17:43 (sixteen years ago) link

new "lady, if you have to ask..." answers

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link

If Scott Walker was so cutting edge, wouldn't he be ranting about slightly better music than Pulp?

I like parts of Climate of Hunter, and the Scott albums are pretty good but all this great modern brutalist crap that's been piled on his Tilt/Drift albums seems a bit much. That said I've never heard Drift but Tilt put me off insufficiently.

I know, right?, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 18:26 (sixteen years ago) link

His "ranting" can be summed up in producing one of their albums six years ago, and inviting them to a festival seven years ago; not much there to get worked up over now, especially since the band is, you know, split up. All I've heard him say about producing tho is that it's a good way to earn some cash, and he's pretty upfront about hating pretty much all current music and cinema, predictably enough. Anyway I don't think being a taste maker for current music is something he'd be particuarly interested in, or suited for.

It'd have been pretty easy for him to go the Nancy Sinatra/Solomon Burke/whoever route and make a comeback record with songs by Cocker, Nick Cave, Neil Hannon and who-have-you, too. I'm happy he didn't go that route, tho yeah, I'm not much interested in The Drift, either.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 19:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyone heard "And Who Shall Go To The Ball And What Shall Go To The Ball" yet? Or seen the dance piece it was written for?

Soukesian, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 19:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I got "and who shall go to the ball," and I can't really get into it. This is also from a person that loves The Drift and Tilt. I think it may be the absence of his voice, but it just isn't as riveting or anything. As weird as it is to say this about such an out there recording, it seems really predictable coming from him at this point.

jonathan - stl, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 20:25 (sixteen years ago) link

I'd love to see the show, though. Shame if he doesn't realise how compelling his voice is.

He should work with Harrison Birtwhistle.

Soukesian, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 20:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I've always thought it quite clear that "We Came Through" concerns the forces of good prevailing against evil in WWII.

Veronica Moser, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 22:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Who's the Luther King in this scenario? EMI

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 4 October 2007 00:54 (sixteen years ago) link

it's like the most cracked idea of a popular rock song

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 31 March 2019 19:28 (five years ago) link

What time of the year did Scott Walker go to that farmhouse to write material for "Climate of Hunter"? I’m wondering if the title of that album can be interpreted as a reference to the constellation of Orion. His experiences in the farmhouse surely left their mark on the album’s lyrics; it’s hard not to connect "Rawhide" with, as he mentioned in an interview, his seeing herds of cows grazing while there.

Melomane, Sunday, 31 March 2019 20:07 (five years ago) link

well that was an ill-advised and overemotional full discography listen i did yesterday, but i came away thinking the drift is his masterwork (and he made several albums that qualify). surprised me a little, i sort of expected to love tilt or climate the most at this point but... even though it's slow-hatching nightmare, the drift is surprisingly, perversely catchy? most of the songs lingered in my head from when i spent a lot of time with it in college

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:01 (five years ago) link

\They really do have their own little characters despite all living in the same world. Some days I'm into the more melodic, strangely beautiful elements of Tilt; the brute-force dynamic terror of Drift; or the dark scat humour of Bish Bosch. I've also reassessed Soused lately and while it's certainly not his best sonically, his lyrics come into their own on that one.

frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:32 (five years ago) link

scott was also one of the best lyricists to ever do it, i feel like that is often lost in recapitulations of his weirdness and daring

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 1 April 2019 15:49 (five years ago) link

Brad thoroughly otm as usual

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 1 April 2019 15:52 (five years ago) link

I haven’t fully revisited it yet but will put in a mention for Ian Penman’s wonderful and long (~70pp!) essay “a dandy in aspic” in rob Young’s book, it makes a case for those middle years: the moviegoer and songs from his tv show and that. Penman touches on stuff mentioned upthread eg that the originals in til the band comes in go well into the second side, and posits that the reason the received wisdom “SIDE 2 IS ALL BAD!!” was allowed to ossify is that for a long time it was difficult to actually get ahold of the album to check - not to be too on brand but maybe cf twin peaks “SEASON 2 IS ALL BAD!!”

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 1 April 2019 16:10 (five years ago) link

it's some way the best piece in the book i think

mark s, Monday, 1 April 2019 16:24 (five years ago) link

For sure although I like the David Toop interview where (iirc and I may be thinking of a different one) he asks walker about the significance of kabbalistic references in the drift (serifot and kellipot) and Walker has no memory of even coming across the words before, let alone what he meant by their deployment!

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 1 April 2019 16:35 (five years ago) link

I think he said recently one of his songwriting strategies just involved going to an acquaintance’s vast personal library and reading and picking out words

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 1 April 2019 16:36 (five years ago) link

checked out a preview on google and think i'm gonna buy the ebook of the rob young collection. penman otm that til the band comes in is three quarters brilliant one quarter ok. "war is over" is scott 3 quality

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 1 April 2019 17:21 (five years ago) link

I actually like almost all of the songs that fill out side 2, it's just that this record HAS to end with "The War is Over", going from that to "Stormy" etc is just too weird and jarring. Same with Scott 3 though I love those three Brel tunes. Both LPs have a resoundingly clear natural ending point at which they do not end.

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Monday, 1 April 2019 17:26 (five years ago) link

i'd like to argue against conventional wisdom here and suggest the three brel tunes are actually the best possible way to end scott 3, the album entering this arch wormhole at the end ("sons of" both creepy and beautiful! "funeral tango" a complete delight and less jarring in the sequence than "we came through" imo) and closes with the most beautiful "ne me quitte pas," can't argue with it ("two weeks since you've gone" would've been a weaker closer)

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 1 April 2019 17:34 (five years ago) link

No way, "Two Weeks Since You've Gone" is gorgeous and heartbreaking and "If You Go Away" is his worst Brel cover by a country mile.

Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Monday, 1 April 2019 17:39 (five years ago) link

"Have you written enough songs for the album yet?" "Er, almost".

Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Monday, 1 April 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link

"If You Go Away" is his worst Brel cover by a country mile.

― Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Monday, April 1, 2019 10:39 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk how you arrived at this opinion but it does not reflect my experience at all

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 1 April 2019 17:50 (five years ago) link

You're NEXT!

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 April 2019 18:04 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0LmWUUVvUM

had never heard this drift-era track (from a 4ad comp called plague songs) until now, it rules

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 1 April 2019 19:27 (five years ago) link

Oh yeah, also has a classic Scott footnote/gloss iirc

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 1 April 2019 19:42 (five years ago) link

(Contrary to the idea many have of his later career he often took pains to clarify what certain songs were about!)

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 1 April 2019 19:44 (five years ago) link

Brad otm about the Brel covers at the end of Scott 3

Man I wish "We Came Through" was just not on that album though!

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 1 April 2019 20:47 (five years ago) link

Wonderful Amazon review for Rob Young's book here. Yikes!

James J. Omeara
5.0 out of 5 starsThe Implicitly White Genius of Scott Walker
February 17, 2014
Format: Hardcover
Even if my review at the Counter-Currents blog hasn't convinced you that Scott Walker is the ultimate White musician and worthy of your attention for that reason alone, this book will appeal to anyone with an interest in the mechanics of the post-war pop music industry or just some damned fine cultural writing. It’s really quite exciting to see such implicitly White music, both avant garde and MOR, receiving serious critical attention. White Nationalists should be heartened by it, and should encourage this unexpected entry point into the mainstream by purchasing multiple copies for family and friends!
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Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 1 April 2019 20:53 (five years ago) link

the jarvis interview from 2017 is awesome for a lot of reasons but i especially liked when walker talked about how much he loved jazz. no one tell james j. omeara

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:42 (five years ago) link

it's almost funny how much effort a human being will put into being racist these days

cheese canopy (map), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:46 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0004d8x

Freak Zone tribute show, includes bits of interview where he just sounds charming and funny.

koogs, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link


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