Robert Plant's Solo career: classic, dud, search, destroy, etc.

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Alex - isn't the lyric "You were pumping iron while I was pumping irony"? Could be wrong, haven't listened to it in a while...

steve, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 04:07 (twenty years ago) link

I'm love Led Zeppelin, but I could never get into either Page's or Plant's solo career. Oh, and that brief collaboration with David Coverversion recently - that was just plain embarrassing.

calstars (calstars), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 04:12 (twenty years ago) link

recently

Recently? It's more than ten years old now!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 04:15 (twenty years ago) link

Let's not talk about Coverdale/Page.... please! What was Pagey thinking?! As Plant wails on "Calling to You" - "Ohhhhhhhhh Jimmy!" ;-)

steve, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 04:18 (twenty years ago) link

Heh - Ned I saw that tour too.. Joan Jett opened!

I never heard that Coverdale/Page record. I bet I'll probably hear it before I die, though. Then again you never know. I've gotta believe there are at least one or two well-constructed riffs on there somewhere; it's Page, after all. About half of Outrider was actually really good.

Man, this track-listing for the Plant best-of is pretty wack. How the heck can you leave off "In the Mood"? And they should have put "Far Post" on there ("Big Log" B-side, and a good tune in its own right), instead of like 5 (?!) tracks from Fate of Nations.

Still I'm pretty curious to hear that early track recorded with Alexis Korner.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 06:20 (twenty years ago) link

Alex - isn't the lyric "You were pumping iron while I was pumping irony"? Could be wrong, haven't listened to it in a while...

Completely correct, Steve. For some reason, I inexplicably deleted "iron". I'm losing my mind. In any event, it's still an abjectly crap lyric. That particular track is littered with similarly cringe-worthy couplets.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 13:21 (twenty years ago) link

the coverdale/page record is a musthear if only for the lyrics

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 14:46 (twenty years ago) link

Someone should talk more about Dreamland.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 14:52 (twenty years ago) link

I would, but I never heard it (apart from the afore-mentioned cover of "Song to the Siren").

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 15:22 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Alhuh6j437190

OH NO! That naughty Thom Jurek is at it again! Check out that line about Lester Bangs.

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 15:37 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Alhuh6j437190

OH NOES! That naughty Thom Jurek is at it again! Check out that line about Lester Bangs.

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 15:38 (twenty years ago) link

Way back when Pictures At Eleven was released, the local AOR station also put one of the UK single b-sides in rotation, a lovely little number called "Far Post", that I've never seen on any other Plant release, anywhere. Anyone have it?

d.w., Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:00 (twenty years ago) link

Narramind. Looks like it's on the "White Nights" soundtrack CD, which I ought to be able to find in a dollar bin somewhere.

d.w., Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:05 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~liden/image/now_zen.jpg

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:08 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah d.w., and as I posted above, it's not on the best-of! Stupid, really.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:16 (twenty years ago) link

Dreamland is GREAT! like top-to-bottom great! that's all I really have to say about it though

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:20 (twenty years ago) link

I think Dreamland is quite good, though it's not something I play all the time. Very creative and expressive arrangements of folk and blues songs, mostly. Very solid band, with a variety of instruments, including strings, some electronics, guitar noise, and Arabian instruments. "Skip's Song" is good almost in a LZ III way and is my favourite. "Song to the Siren" is beautiful. I like the versions of "Morning Dew" and "One More Cup of Coffee" a lot. He actually manages to do something surprising and scary with "Hey Joe".

I totally loved "Tie Dye to the Highway" at the time (Grade 6/7). I really liked "Hurting Kind" too. I also remember "Liar's Dance" being good. Some of the rest too. I remember writing a review of Manic Nirvana for a Gr 7 English assignment and saying that it was pretty good but leaves the listener wanting a little more.

I think the coolest thing about his 80s solo career was how he reinvented his persona as this button-down shirt-wearing English gentleman artiste, sort of a hippie Peter Gabriel.

"Tall Cool One" was great, WTF? Or at least I thought so then. "Ship of Fools" too. I don't remember that album as well.

Yeah, "In the Mood" is good.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 22:03 (twenty years ago) link

whatever the quality of his solo music, mr. plant always gave props to alternative/indie/whatever bands that he liked (and almost all of which sounded rather unlike led zeppelin) -- the cure and depeche mode (maybe even the pixies?) come to mind from memory, though i am sure that there are others. for being an exception to the "dinosaurs" who acted as if punk/new wave never happened, plant deserves respect.

and yes, some of his solo stuff is pretty good ... i always liked "in the mood," "little by little," and "heaven knows" (though the lyrics are sorta c-grade bryan ferry [OF ALL PEOPLE FOR MR. DOES-ANYONE-REMEMBER-LAUGHTER TO TRY TO IMITATE COULD YOU SEE THE FAVOR BEING RECIPROCATED?!]). the honeydrippers "sea of love" remake is silly, but it lead me to the original version so it's all good in the end (plus the video was prime mid-eighties cheese and the chick therein looked like a high-school teacher i really crushed on big time).

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 6 November 2003 05:20 (twenty years ago) link

I just played Dreamland, having just picked it up in the used bin. It's really good! Nice arrangements and song selection; I agreee with Sundar above. I didn't want to hear another version of "Hey Joe" but this one's pretty good. And "Song to the Siren" is gorgeous... Alex maybe you need to hear it again. And his voice still sounds great.

Sean (Sean), Thursday, 6 November 2003 22:23 (twenty years ago) link

Plant is a big fan of Big Black's Songs About Fucking, allegedly.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 6 November 2003 22:25 (twenty years ago) link

that's true, I've heard him big up it in a couple of interviews

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 7 November 2003 01:46 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
Robert used to urge one to squeeze his lemon, now he looks like he's been sucking on one:

http://www.borntoboogie.net/Images/premiere/tv_robplant_rolan.jpg

(That's Tony Visconti and Rolan Bolan, Marc's son, on either side of him at an event for the Born to Boogie DVD.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 15 May 2005 21:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Rolan Bolan....heh.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 15 May 2005 21:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I read the other day that Plant has sold over 20 million records from his solo career alone. wow!

Al (sitcom), Monday, 16 May 2005 00:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Heh, good on him, actually. Sure a lot of it was a coast on the Led Zep afterburn but you know, he really does deserve it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 May 2005 01:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I was sure this was revived in light of the nice reviews for the new one... anybody heard it?

An unmentioned song I still go back to: the beautiful synth ballad "Thru With The Two Step" from Principle of Moments. Man, I wish he'd locked into that sound/vibe and just stayed there....

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Monday, 16 May 2005 05:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Can't say the new album knocked me out particularly - yes I know Jah Wobble's on it, but if Plant had done an album with Wobble (and Keith Levene?) in 1979 now THERE would have been something. Pretty much the standard post-"Kashmir" world metal muzak plod AFAIC.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 16 May 2005 06:24 (eighteen years ago) link

(X-post) - Wouldn't "Zolan Bolan" have been more appropriate?

I like Robert Plant's first three records (the Robbie Blunt trilogy) a lot, and appreciate the effort on Plant's part to make them NOT sound like Zeppelin. Which would've been a mistake, considering how his voice has deteriorated over the years - couldn't hit the high notes anymore. His next few weren't very good at all, although sampling the Beastie Boys was a clever move. "Calling To You" and "Tie Die On The Highway" were pretty spacey. (Incidentally, what the heck was up with those ultra-arcane song titles, anyway? Were they dope-inspired? pulled at random out of a hat? i-ching toss-results? or just inside jokes? Dunno; but one of the few that made sense: "Mystery Title"!

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 16 May 2005 06:47 (eighteen years ago) link

The old wheeze can still startle. I caught "Darkness Darkness" on Classic VH-1 a few nights ago and – wow. What he's lost in range he's gained in gravitas and grit.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 16 May 2005 12:32 (eighteen years ago) link

appreciate the effort on Plant's part to make them NOT sound like Zeppelin.

He has since irritatingly renounced said efforts, alas.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 16 May 2005 13:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I was sure this was revived in light of the nice reviews for the new one...

Actually I didn't even know there was one!

I have to say I kinda regret not getting The Principle of Moments back when I heard "Big Log" and "In the Mood" on the radio in upstate New York -- both reasonably big hits and spun quite a bit. I was 12 then and had I picked up the album and really gotten into it, it would have been interesting to see how I viewed Led Zep and much else in retrospect.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 May 2005 13:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Get Dreamland! It's great.

Sundar (sundar), Monday, 16 May 2005 14:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Ned, I was the same age when I got that record and I think I might appreciate it now more than I did at that age (in the throes of Zeppelin geeking). There's some sophisticated pop on that one and on Shaken n' Stirred ('85) that probably rubbed a lot of his fans' ears the wrong way.

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Monday, 16 May 2005 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I listened to the new one over the weekend. Didn't knock me out--nice "textures" and the only songs I really liked were the old-fashioned Led Zep 3-style folky ones. But I do like his voice better now, actually.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 16 May 2005 19:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Dreadful album cover the new one has, though I dare say it's better than Fate of Nations.....which is sort've like saying it's better than a paper plate smeared with yak dung.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 16 May 2005 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Sundar, have you heard the new one? Is it as good as Dreamland?

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 16 May 2005 19:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha, yak dung. Yeah, it's Plant's solo records that are deserving of John Lydon's Zeppelin epithet, that just looking at one of their covers made him want to throw up.

I think Zeppelin's cover art is/was unfairly derided...most of it is really good. Obv. it was Page (the former art student), who was in charge of hiring Hipgnosis.

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 04:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Funny that PIL ended up doing Kashmir live - apparently Lydon gave Planty a call asking for the lyrics.

One of the Hipgnosis guys (most likely Storm Thorgerson) proposed artwork for Houses Of The Holy with a picture of a tennis match on the cover. When asked what it meant, he said "Don't you get it? Racket!" and that was the end of that.

Deluxe (Damian), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 10:45 (eighteen years ago) link

One of the Hipgnosis guys --- Peter Christopherson -- went onto join Throbbing Gristle/PTV/COIL. In fact, that's Cosey & Genesis getting naked and randy on the cover of UFO's Force It (shot for Hipgnosis by Christoherpson)

Funny that PIL ended up doing Kashmir live

I saw them do as their opening number on the Album tour....only the band played it before Lydon took the stage (releaving him of the burden of singing it).

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:07 (eighteen years ago) link

the only songs I really liked were the old-fashioned Led Zep 3-style folky ones

I can't belive how many times I've heard the latest single in the last six weeks; it's not something that would make me search out this album, but the one acoustic track I did hear was surprisingly good. How many songs on the album are like that?

Vic Funk, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:22 (eighteen years ago) link

three-four acoustic things, as I remember. Album does sound Plant's been checking out Jeff Buckley or something, not sure if I mean this as a compliment or not.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 12:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Album does sound Plant's been checking out Jeff Buckley or something, not sure if I mean this as a compliment or not.

Oh, the pumping irony.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:15 (eighteen years ago) link

"Checking out Jeff Buckley" when one is Robert Plant = looking at a smudged photocopy of yourself.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link

My point, Ned.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm glad we had this talk.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Any love for "Shaken 'n' Stirred"?

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/078944951X.01._PIdp-schmoo2,TopRight,7,-26_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

100 Best Album Covers

If these are the 100 best, rock and roll is a very boring beast.

I recieved this book as a gift a few years ago, and man, is it pretentious and dull. Here is 2% of the list:
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000025NCI.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004YS2O.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

That's right. Yer lookin' at TWO OF THE ONE-HUNDRED BEST ALBUM COVERS OF ALL TIME.

Some of the list is some of the hundred best, but there's a lot of stinkers in there, too. I would only suggest reading this at the bookstore while waiting for your mate to finish shopping.

(I would've put this on another thread, but A.) Storm Thorgerson's name has already been dropped in here like he was Candyman and B.) This is an Alex in NYC thread, so album cover talk shouldn't be discouraged.)

Take a wild guess which LZ cover they liked the best?

http://www.starland.com/sf-sc/sf01/images/Monolith/Monolith.jpg

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Any love for "Shaken 'n' Stirred"
Hip to Hoo. Kallalou Kallalou!

Funny that PIL ended up doing Kashmir live
Someone, somewhere HAS to have a copy of this...?

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 21:38 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Playing Walking Into Clarksdale right now much louder than I've ever played it before. It is now a much, much better album than I remember. "Most High" - daaaamn.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I quite like the new one, Mighty Rearranger, as well as the accompanying show.

Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Did he ever say exactly why he dislikes those early solo records?

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Saturday, 10 April 2010 08:51 (fourteen years ago) link

*does* he dislike them? where did you ever get that impression?

Stormy Davis, Saturday, 10 April 2010 08:57 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I may be under the spell of xhuxk's interview/review of Now & Zen, but so what: the album sounds great now.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 31 July 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

I remember being a kid and hearing "In the Mood" and just feeling like it was so wonderfully from outer space. Classic for all time.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 31 July 2011 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

Sorry, "Tall Cool One" is entirely awkward and embarassing.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, November 4, 2003

as usual so wrong

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 August 2011 01:02 (twelve years ago) link

I love the spooky robert plant song with the finger snapping and liquid guitar solo

gardener by day, gatekeeper by night (blank), Monday, 1 August 2011 01:07 (twelve years ago) link

lil by lil

mookieproof, Monday, 1 August 2011 01:09 (twelve years ago) link

Pictures At Eleven and Principle Of Moments are awesome! I particularly like Robbie Blunts watery Strat playing on POM. Big Log and In The Mood are gorgeous songs.

Brooker T Buckingham, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 18:46 (twelve years ago) link

Gonna be smoking a phat one alfresco to this tune during those long summer evenings.

That I guarantee ;D
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dell (del), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

I actually still adore "Heaven Knows." But, again, "Tall Cool One" is just lame, lame, lame.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

he's had an admirable career i think, definitely followed his own path without really seeming to be weighed down by the legacy of zeppelin

om nom nom nnamdi asomugha (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

after Peter Gabriel no lead singer has Done His Own Thing to more rewarding effect.

livin in my own private Biden hole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

Pictures At Eleven and Principle Of Moments are awesome! I particularly like Robbie Blunts watery Strat playing on POM. Big Log and In The Mood are gorgeous songs.

― Brooker T Buckingham, Wednesday, August 3, 2011 11:46 AM (1 hour ago)

Eeek, the tone is way too nasally and dry for my tastes.

it's a meme i made and i like (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

Big Log is the biggest WTf moment of the past few weeks. Guitarist tone is so awful, his pull-offs amateur. Whole song sounds like some lounge effort. Drums and pads are almost modern sounding. "...and the coming of night time" ok

calstars, Friday, 1 March 2013 02:42 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...
two years pass...

I think "Lullaby and... the Ceaseless Roar" is as good of an album I would expect or want from Robert Plant on the 21st Century.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 July 2017 23:40 (six years ago) link

Yep!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 July 2017 00:26 (six years ago) link

solid perce

mookieproof, Saturday, 8 July 2017 01:25 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

anyone listening to his podcast? it's kind of nice. He's all over the place but enjoyable to listen to.

Also learned that Richie Hayward played on Shaken n Stirred, now I have to go listen to that one

calstars, Thursday, 11 July 2019 01:36 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

Robert Plant and Phil Collins backstage at Madison Square Garden, NYC during Plant's 1983 'Principle of Moments' tour pic.twitter.com/7vrEJWZ5ta

— Barney Hurley (@barneyhurley1) May 2, 2021

calstars, Monday, 3 May 2021 03:04 (two years ago) link

boss business

“The break is in 7/8”

calstars, Monday, 3 May 2021 03:16 (two years ago) link

"Lighten up, baby, I'm in love with you!"

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 May 2021 09:33 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

you were pumping iron while i was pumping irony

mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 03:11 (nine months ago) link

Heaven knows!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 03:13 (nine months ago) link


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