Radiohead: Classic or Dud?

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lol u got rick rolled

musically, Saturday, 29 September 2007 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link

even if they are good they suck, because loads of knobs like them.

max r, Saturday, 29 September 2007 17:00 (sixteen years ago) link

given that 2/3 of the british student population like them, you're bound to get a few knobs in there. alongside diamonds like myself. ;-)

Just got offed, Saturday, 29 September 2007 17:11 (sixteen years ago) link

"PROG ROCK INNIT"

not such a bad thing compared to some of the less imaginative bands around now, just not really my cuppa tea.

max r, Saturday, 29 September 2007 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

One of the maybe five active rock bands worth listening to.

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 29 September 2007 17:49 (sixteen years ago) link

They're a fine-sounding band, who I can find no obvious fault with.

And yet I can't be arsed with them.

PhilK, Saturday, 29 September 2007 20:43 (sixteen years ago) link

is it wrong that around the time of ok computer i thought they were basically the faces for the 90s?

Lawrence the Looter, Saturday, 29 September 2007 23:48 (sixteen years ago) link

i wonder how max feels about his doppelganger using phrases like loads of knobs like them.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 30 September 2007 00:53 (sixteen years ago) link

not as good now as they were in the mid 90's, when they weren't as good as oasis.

darraghmac, Sunday, 30 September 2007 04:07 (sixteen years ago) link

They're this era's U2, except they're actually good. No wait they're this era's Pink Floyd, except they're actually good. No wait, they're just Radiohead and they're a really good band. Realy good.

the next grozart, Sunday, 30 September 2007 04:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Are they not this era's R.E.M. except they're more groundbreaking in terms of what is considered popular? I fell in love with them the first time I heard "Creep" (and still dig that first album), own every single b-side but, like others here, for some reason don't play them much at all. Something about over-exposure will do that.

Mr. Odd, Monday, 1 October 2007 23:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Like Pink Floyd, and to some extent U2, they are just plain damn good. Or, at least they were in the 90s.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 02:51 (sixteen years ago) link

It would be cool if they wrote a song as catchy as "Creep" again.

Mark Rich@rdson, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 04:53 (sixteen years ago) link

It would be cool if they wrote a song as catchy as "Creep" again.

You mean something as catchy as "High And Dry" or "Let Down" or "Idioteque" or "Knives Out" or "Where I End And You Begin"? Yeah, that would be cool.

Listen before you leap.

dblcheeksneek, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 12:34 (sixteen years ago) link

I listened to all of the main albums today and after ignoring it for years because I didn't like it too much at the time (last heard it the week I bought the CD) I'm now completely blown away by HTTT. </shame>

StanM, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 12:46 (sixteen years ago) link

I also find that I now seem to like Kid A & Amnesiac less than I always thought.

StanM, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 12:49 (sixteen years ago) link

I share your shame. For whatever reason, it wasn't until I revisited HTTT (three years after its release) that it's now sunk in and, for me, surpassed all of their others LPs in terms of balance/quality/strength.

dblcheeksneek, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 12:53 (sixteen years ago) link

HTTT sounds like a Radiohead greatest hits compilation composed of completely new material

tissp, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 13:18 (sixteen years ago) link

HTTT sounds like a Radiohead greatest hits compilation composed of completely new material

I couldn't have articulated my assessment or appreciation of HTTT any better. Cheers.

dblcheeksneek, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 19:01 (sixteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

Saw Radiohead live last night. Light show was fantastic. Many of my fave songs were played. I was aghast that they could do Climbing Up The Walls and In Limbo and Dollars & Cents and Talk Show Host, still in 2008, in the same show. I mean boy that's the way to Bimble's Radiohead heart for sure.

But they also fucked up a song from In Rainbows (whatever the really quiet one is with an acoustic guitar, I can't be bothered to look it up) and though people laughed, it really wasn't all that funny and I shouted out "Neil Young". Because it sounded like Neil Young anyway, what they were playing.

I was left feeling that even if Radiohead are past my prime, I may be past my prime as well. I struggled with the indifference of those around me. All around me, people just standing there motionless. Who were they, why were they here? They didn't give a fuck about Radiohead.
Luckily there were some girls just behind me who were at least showing some enthusiasm.

I struggled realizing that if a person was here and was say 20 years old, they would not necessarily remember the Radiohead show I saw here in 2001. Yeah I really struggled with that, too.

The only thing I held against them was the lack of Paranoid Android. I mean wow, how could they leave THAT one out? But okay you know, we're all getting older all the time, maybe we're too old for Paranoid Android?

Bimble, Thursday, 21 August 2008 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link

But it was a good show, I don't mean that. There was nothing wrong with the performance aside from that song, really. And what was the new bass & drums thing they added to the fucking GLOAMING??? WOW!

Bimble, Thursday, 21 August 2008 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I would be sort of pissed if they left out P.A.

wanko ergo sum, Thursday, 21 August 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Awwww...thanks. That makes me feel better.

Bimble, Thursday, 21 August 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

According to the setlist at At Ease they did play a bit of Neil Young when they screwed up "Faust Arp":

"Faust Arp [Thom messes up lyrics several times, starts singing Neil Young's "Tell Me Why"; Jonny tries to follow along but can't quite get the chords. Phil comes out and drops an American dollar bill out in front of Thom and Jonny and runs away laughing. Thom and Jonny crack up completely to loud cheers. Thom tries again, says "Fuck it!", but then continues and finishes the song.]"

lou, Thursday, 21 August 2008 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes, I'm ashamed to admit that I check the setlists for Radiohead shows I didn't go to.

lou, Thursday, 21 August 2008 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link

You know, I'm realizing now though, that I craved to hear "Airbag" at the concert, too, and didn't hear it. That's the only other one I craved.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Thursday, 21 August 2008 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes they did play bloody Neil Young? Oh my god, really? Cause holy shit I didn't even know that. I don't even know that song at all. What the hell? Fantastic. I <3 Radiohead.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Thursday, 21 August 2008 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link

i for one would love to hear radiohead cover "tell me why."

strgn, Thursday, 21 August 2008 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link

No, but I remember wanting to know what that song was. I didn't recognize it. I don't understand how I guessed it was Neil Young. I mean I'm not trying to say I'm some supreme psychic or something, but that flips my lid completely because that was the one moment at that gig where I just felt they lost me.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Thursday, 21 August 2008 19:42 (fifteen years ago) link

And what was the new bass & drums thing they added to the fucking GLOAMING??? WOW!

ooooh yes this was one of the biggest highlights of Houston show a couple months back. so stunning & creepy. i would take the gloaming (esp. this new version) any day over paranoid android, for the record.

stephen, Saturday, 23 August 2008 07:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Look, I've got a thing for Colin to begin with, man. That shit sent me over the moon. He is the sexiest thing on wheels.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 23 August 2008 08:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I <3 Bimble

Turangalila, Saturday, 23 August 2008 08:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Heehee! Stop. *blush*

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 23 August 2008 11:57 (fifteen years ago) link

And what was the new bass & drums thing they added to the fucking GLOAMING??? WOW!

They've been doing that since 2003. A very good twist, to be sure.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 August 2008 12:50 (fifteen years ago) link

But Ned, no...don't tell me that.

Please don't tell me that.

I have to have the live versions now.

I normally didn't like that song, but shit.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 23 August 2008 13:13 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost Ned, i don't recall that at ALL from the 2003 tour.

the deep rumbly bass, yes, but not the drum parts.

stephen, Saturday, 23 August 2008 13:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Stephen, you're only increasing my hysteria about this music, thanks.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 23 August 2008 13:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Colin is the reason why "Dollars & Cents" is one of my fave Radiohead songs. That's all I'll say for now.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 23 August 2008 13:30 (fifteen years ago) link

"trap doors that open/I spiral down"

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 23 August 2008 13:33 (fifteen years ago) link

i never really cared for dollars & cents. one of my least favs off amnesiac.

stephen, Saturday, 23 August 2008 14:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Ned, i don't recall that at ALL from the 2003 tour.

I do and I have a recording of the show to prove it. Perhaps they were testing things out during the tour, which wouldn't surprise me.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 August 2008 14:55 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah the gloaming has always been like that live. youtube has the proof.

also, classic. very classic. saw them a few weeks ago at all points west and they freakin' killed.

Creeztophair, Saturday, 23 August 2008 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link

But they also fucked up a song from In Rainbows (whatever the really quiet one is with an acoustic guitar, I can't be bothered to look it up) and though people laughed, it really wasn't all that funny and I shouted out "Neil Young". Because it sounded like Neil Young anyway, what they were playing

12. Faust Arp [Thom messes up lyrics several times, starts singing Neil Young's "Tell Me Why"; Jonny tries to follow along but can't quite get the chords. Phil comes out and drops an American dollar bill out in front of Thom and Jonny and runs away laughing. Thom and Jonny crack up completely to loud cheers. Thom tries again, says "Fuck it!", but then continues and finishes the song.]

sounds like a fun time.

Creeztophair, Saturday, 23 August 2008 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link

saw them last night in SF, was excellent, but fuck you Meyer Sound...the PA cut out COMPLETELY twice, totally ruining two songs. I've never heard such a deafening silence at a festival

akm, Saturday, 23 August 2008 19:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Dollars & Cents is one of their best songs. Not only is the bass gorgeous, but... those STRINGS!!

Turangalila, Saturday, 23 August 2008 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Awwww yeah man. Look I can't even get over "In Limbo" right now. Don't they just squeeze out all the rest of music ever like a tube of toothpaste sometimes? I've got their cover of Can's "The Thief", too, from Warrington UK gig from Oct. 2000. It fucking SLAYS, man. SLAYS.

Dollars & Cents kills me because the bass line is the only thing I've ever heard that reminds me of Crispy Ambulance. I'm serious. I'll take the strings, too. Hell I'll take it all.

I met with a girlfriend of mine tonight and she said she'd been playing the Bends, an album I sold and greatly regret it, but by god, will they EVER surpass Kid A & OKC? I don't fucking think so, mate.

Radiohead are just the only thing I want to hear for at least the next 6 hours.

Please excuse my enthusiasm.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 23 August 2008 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link

And did I mention they did "Talk Show Host"? Do you think they will still do that song live in ten years?

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 23 August 2008 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link

They make me want to kick the shit out of the bass drum.

Too many young people, too many young people who know hip hop but they don't know Radiohead. Too many young people, bless their hearts.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 24 August 2008 04:09 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgNE3TZV0u4&

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 24 August 2008 04:12 (fifteen years ago) link

x post bimble::

we got paranoid android tuesday here in vancouver.(we also got soaked with rain)

also in 2003 when they did the gloaming,they sampled yorke saying "alistair campbell" and sampled it as the song faded out .

setlist from atease from vancover::
Setlist:
01. 15 Step (Thom, ‘We brought the weather with us.’)
02. There There (Thom ‘How do you like the rain? It’s ok, you’ll get used to it.’)
03. Morning Bell
04. All I Need
05. Where I End And You Begin (Thom, ‘Alright no one get hurt out there tonight’)
06. Talk Show Host
07. Nude (Thom addresses crowd surfers, ‘Take it easy guys! Its not fucking Rage Against The Machine.’)
08. Weird Fishes/Arpeggi
09. The National Anthem
10. Bangers And Mash (Thom, ‘This is a nasty little song.’)
11. Faust Arp (during the middle of the song Thom tells a heckler, ‘Shut the fuck up, you’re not funny you just don’t get out much.’)
12. Videotape
13. Karma Police (Thom, ‘I think we are confused. This one is called Karma Police.’)
14. Jigsaw Falling Into Place
15. Just
16. Exit Music [For A Film] (someone yells out I love you Thom. Thom replies whilst singing, I love you too darling.’)
17. Bodysnatchers

Encore 1
18. House of Cards (Thom, ‘During this song you have to snog the person next to you.’)
19. Optimistic (Thom, ‘Ok we know its raining and that’s a bummer, but fuck it this is Optimistic.’)
20. You And Whose Army? (Thom, ‘That’s show business!’)
21. Planet Telex (Thom, ‘Thank you everybody.’)
22. Everything In Its Right Place

Encore 2
23. Reckoner (Thom, ‘Ok, this is for making you feel warm inside.’)
24. 2+2=5
25. Paranoid Android (Thom,’This is the last song and you the viewers get to choose. Idioteque or Paranoid Android?’)

drone/a/sore, Sunday, 24 August 2008 05:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Have been enjoying you so stubbornly sticking to your conspiratorial guns, KM
(I'd actually be 100% on board with that posited turn of events, since I was really impressed by the Smile's Glasto video set and think Skinner is a pretty perfect foil for them)

Kangol In The Light (Craig D.), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 17:03 (two years ago) link

the trick is to fool yourself, too! i mean, to me, that happened

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 17:07 (two years ago) link

seriously though, i think they sound great that way, as a 3-piece. i've heard some thom/jonny duets before, of course, including the lovely ones with PT Anderson and a quiet drum machine. those always sounded like what they were - one-offs. with a real drummer (and a really good one, skinner), though, combined with new songs that fit that format? they were LIGHTNING

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 17:09 (two years ago) link

(Also would have maybe preferred The Erase as a good bad band name for this new trio, perhaps a passably Spinal Tap stupid-funny thing for them to try and pull, like 'well, the r was just, like, eraaased, man', plus that way it'd fall a bit more closely in line with Atoms For Peace)

Kangol In The Light (Craig D.), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 17:13 (two years ago) link

personally i would have gone with T+J Maxx

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 17:16 (two years ago) link

Now we're typin'

Kangol In The Light (Craig D.), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 17:44 (two years ago) link

Am imagining a scenario where Phil Selway lurks ILX occasionally for Krautrock recs and, in a moment of curiosity, reads this thread and subsequently starts frantically Googling for news sources on his own sacking.😄

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 18:01 (two years ago) link

*phil googles self, sees breaking news*

"bald british batería banned by bandmates"

"fuck."

class project pat (m bison), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 18:09 (two years ago) link

Phil reads on, hoping against hope that it was the drummer from Portishead

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 18:14 (two years ago) link

...or Gaydaddiohead

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 18:36 (two years ago) link

Anything from “the smile” released yet ?
(Don’t kid yourselves, it’s a terrible name)

calstars, Wednesday, 14 July 2021 18:47 (two years ago) link

full orchestral shit only imo

As someone who loves 'Harry Patch (In Memory Of)' and their unused theme for 'Spectre' endorse this 100%.

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 14 July 2021 19:17 (two years ago) link

i dont wanna see these sad old bastards do anything but have bad hair in a performance hall while they revive endangered instruments and do more penderecki shit.

class project pat (m bison), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 19:27 (two years ago) link

lol

calstars, Wednesday, 14 July 2021 21:08 (two years ago) link

lol pic.twitter.com/up9HlVwHuj

— br◎seph (@on3ness) July 14, 2021

cerebral halsey (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 21:15 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

So, everything's now on Bandcamp, pretty much. Or at least a lot of it.

https://radiohead.bandcamp.com/music

No singles/B-sides from the first two albums but the expanded OK Computer is up as well as the forthcoming Kid A/Amnesiac reissue with the bonus tracks (but not all the B-sides), plus the King of Limbs remix album and the second disc of In Rainbows.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 October 2021 15:19 (two years ago) link

I totally forgot about that second disc to In Rainbows. It's supposed to be a pretty nice EP, alternating between instrumentals and what are essentially outtakes, correct?

birdistheword, Thursday, 21 October 2021 17:54 (two years ago) link

Personally I only find “4 minute warning” to be the highlight of that collection. Mk1 and mk2 are pretty much jokes, so it’s only 6 tracks.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 21 October 2021 18:35 (two years ago) link

bangers and mash goes hard

class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 21 October 2021 19:27 (two years ago) link

I do like it better than Bodysnatchers but people keep telling me I’m wrong about that one. The only part I love about Bodysnatchers is the bridge.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 21 October 2021 19:40 (two years ago) link

who are these "people"

bodysnatchers is fine, but the riff is p basic

class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 21 October 2021 23:48 (two years ago) link

The riff near the end reminds me of "Oh, Pretty Woman"

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 21 October 2021 23:52 (two years ago) link

"bodysnatchers" is great

best of the in rainbows outtakes is "go slowly", i would have put that on the album. the rest were left off for a reason

ufo, Friday, 22 October 2021 00:38 (two years ago) link

iirc they said "bodysnatchers" was inspired by wolfmother which is a pretty funny reference point to have had

ufo, Friday, 22 October 2021 00:43 (two years ago) link

“Go Slowly” is iirc inspired by Can’s “The Thief” and it was kind of an alternate experiment for “There There”.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 22 October 2021 01:24 (two years ago) link


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