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I'm excited too. Again, this show will probably be very different than the previous shows where they occasionally did "the hits" (three shows here: twice in 2000, once in 1993)... so I'm just glad for a change of pace.. it will probably be more of a mental experience than anything else.

Da Na Not! (donut), Friday, 10 March 2006 06:15 (thirteen years ago) link

http://pics.drugstore.com/prodimg/74951/200.jpg

Da Na Not! (donut), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link

This fuckin' uptempo record and I've got to talk about a fuckin' dog dyin'...

LoneNut, Friday, 10 March 2006 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

OK, that was one excellent excellent show.. Very different from the True/False performances from 2000, different from the Fair Use shows from 1993... but just as good as both, but very different from both. Highly planned, entertaining, and very dense... I like how this one allowed one to be able to just shut his/her eyes for a while and just hear the audio instead... they advised doing that the entire time semi-tongue-in-cheek, although the group were very entertaining to watch as they cued each other on when to do certain things and all that.

(Assuming I don't have other work priorities) I'm probably skipping Spank Rock Sat. night to see/hear this again...

Yoo Doo Nut (donut), Saturday, 11 March 2006 10:07 (thirteen years ago) link

The art exhibition was ace as well, really was. Most art exhibitions really don't do what that did for me. It really made me wish there was some way to take it with me, as did the show itself at times. I don't have a camera cell phone but last night I wished I did. I wonder if there will be any way to hear the show again later, etc.

The small David Wills installation in the back was like crumbs in front of a hungry man. My favourite part of the wall of written Wills-isms was "One thing that is very important is that you burp your Tupperware".

It did go on a bit too long I think, 3 hours, but I was also just very tired after a long workweek. Yeah I considered going again tonight too, but I've already got other plans.

And the air hangs heavy like a dulling wine (Bimble...), Saturday, 11 March 2006 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, I'm not sure I've experienced anything quite that prescient since I saw Radiohead in 2001 at the Gorge. It was that same feeling of suddenly experiencing an important historical moment as it happens.

Another thing is that I actually got lost on the way there and ended up stopping right in front of a church a couple of blocks away that had physical features of both Christianity and those funny shaped things you see on the top of mosques. Very odd.

And the air hangs heavy like a dulling wine (Bimble...), Saturday, 11 March 2006 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I wonder if there will be any way to hear the show again later, etc.

You can! This show was the debut of the "Hey, we have 'It's All In Your Head' for sale at the merch booth" show... they're selling the limited edition double-CDs for $12 each I believe. I picked one up last night. You can also order them only via negativland.com, and those are the ONLY two ways you can get this. I picked one up, but -- after seeing this show -- will probably actually listen to it a week later, just because, well, my brain is already saturated with It's All In Your Head as it is. :D

Yoo Doo Nut (donut), Saturday, 11 March 2006 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Haha. Yeah they definitely saturated our brains that's for sure! I looked at the booth they had there but I didn't get the feeling they were selling anything, which puzzled me. I'll probably order some more of their stuff online soon anyway. I've kinda tired out of the last cassettes I ordered from them awhile back.

And the air hangs heavy like a dulling wine (Bimble...), Saturday, 11 March 2006 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Also I really liked the way they were dressed. Colourful dress shirts with ties...Sometimes when they started getting musical with these electro bits, it reminded me of Kraftwerk in performance style/appearance.

And the air hangs heavy like a dulling wine (Bimble...), Saturday, 11 March 2006 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Furthermore, I particularly liked the way they began the show with bits of The Beatles - "Across the Universe" was it? I can't recall exactly. A conversation about God should always begin with the Beatles as far as I'm concerned.

And the air hangs heavy like a dulling wine (Bimble...), Saturday, 11 March 2006 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Also much later on there was a part where they finally did an electro sound that sounded exactly like the beginning of New Order's "Your Silent Face" - do you remember it? I was going to yell out "Your Silent Face!" but their material prevented me.

That was the first song I ever heard of New Order ever when I knew I had fallen in love with New Order.

And the air hangs heavy like a dulling wine (Bimble...), Saturday, 11 March 2006 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Anyway, may Bush lick up the crap of the cows he works with.

And the air hangs heavy like a dulling wine (Bimble...), Saturday, 11 March 2006 23:06 (thirteen years ago) link

>sounded exactly like the beginning of New Order's "Your Silent Face"

if it's the track I'm thinking of (simple 2/4 plonky stomp), that's a sample of the first track on Moebius & Renziehausen's Ersatz

milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 11 March 2006 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Well that could prove to be very useful information! Thank you sir!

All The Furniture Is In The Garage (Bimble...), Sunday, 12 March 2006 02:14 (thirteen years ago) link

"dupaplete my Mcnothing!"

All The Furniture Is In The Garage (Bimble...), Sunday, 12 March 2006 02:18 (thirteen years ago) link

It's "exgagonizing"

"Pump gag"

All The Furniture Is In The Garage (Bimble...), Monday, 13 March 2006 00:20 (thirteen years ago) link

And you know he can't say "emanating". He can only say "enamating". I tell you that David Wills is a genius.

All The Furniture Is In The Garage (Bimble...), Monday, 13 March 2006 00:20 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Exhibit opening tonight in Minneapolis:

http://blogs.citypages.com/ctg/2006/05/art_party_negat.asp

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Negativland is doing their "It's All In Your Head FM" tour near me next month...anyone know anything about it?

Reatards Unite, Monday, 16 July 2007 00:14 (twelve years ago) link

I've seen it an it's freaking great. It will make you think, (especially if you are an atheist like me). You must go. Negativland are very dear to my heart, though I only really think about them intensely about once a year.

Bimble, Monday, 16 July 2007 00:24 (twelve years ago) link

I've heard that Mark Hosler from Negativland will do a lecture at the ZXZW festival in Holland. Which already has a killer line-up.
www.zxzw.nl

joost666, Monday, 16 July 2007 10:21 (twelve years ago) link

Bimble, I'm impressed.

Saxby D. Elder, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 03:19 (twelve years ago) link

Spoke one of the organizers. There will also the premiere of a new Neagtivland film.

joost666, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 08:37 (twelve years ago) link

I'll unite with you, reatard. Any idea what the show will be like? I'm guessing that the shows will have a similar style to the 2005 <i>It's All in Your Head FM</i> shows, but different content, right? I listen to that live release more than almost any other live release from the last five years.

Color me excited.

Jamesy, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

Saw Hosler give his lecture last night at the Knox Museum of Art. Then everybody went to Senor Taco with him. Then bowling!

today, i'm a numbers machine (roxymuzak), Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:07 (ten years ago) link

I'm envious!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:18 (ten years ago) link

Wish I had pics.

today, i'm a numbers machine (roxymuzak), Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:44 (ten years ago) link

three months pass...

Between the return of U2 and this it's like it's their time all over again.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 March 2009 20:55 (ten years ago) link

three years pass...

I filed a police report today (minor thing--car got rifled through, nothing taken it seems). The officer handed me the report number and his name etc. on a piece of paper, at the bottom of which is printed "©2001 TEN-8, INC." Naturally it made me want to hear A Big 10-8 Place. Man I love this thing (every couple of years anyway).

"The door opens automatically, and the first thing you see is the orange
carpet inside 180...and you'll see the dog juice, the horrible dog juice..."

andrew m., Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:39 (seven years ago) link

which album/video has the Weatherman's story about fixing the playboy channel in Rossmoor?

sarahell, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:45 (seven years ago) link

six months pass...

The half-hour of sound manipulation they did at La Luz is on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN1z58l88dU

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 05:12 (six years ago) link

eight months pass...

i have the guns cd single which has 2 versions which are good but i wish they would come out with a greatest cd collection.

xzanfar, Sunday, 9 June 2013 00:31 (six years ago) link

still absolute solid gold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHY9iSdoqK4

piscesx, Sunday, 9 June 2013 02:20 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

do u know how many time zones there are in the soviet union

ⓢⓗⓘⓣ (am0n), Tuesday, 1 July 2014 16:32 (five years ago) link

ELEVEN

polyamanita (sleeve), Tuesday, 1 July 2014 16:52 (five years ago) link

That's ridiculous. It's not even funny.

emil.y, Tuesday, 1 July 2014 16:57 (five years ago) link

guns

OutdoorF on Golf (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 1 July 2014 21:37 (five years ago) link

six months pass...

Negativland have posted on Facebook that Ian Allen, a key early member who had to leave the band in the late eighties due to continuing health issues, has passed on after complications from surgery. Very sad news to hear -- he introduced the original group to Don Joyce, was a key force behind the design and concept of A Big 10-8 Place, pushed for the tape loop approach and more.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 11:30 (four years ago) link

Aw, jeez. RIP.

emil.y, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 12:56 (four years ago) link

this does not seem like a band that would use Facebook.

Poliopolice, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 17:49 (four years ago) link

six months pass...

Very, very sad news to hear -- Negativland reports that Don Joyce aka Crosley Bendix and many more, and the host of "Over the Edge," has passed on. A tremendous loss.

https://www.facebook.com/Negativlandland/posts/1098963353464741

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 July 2015 16:40 (three years ago) link

When he and Negativland discovered their mutual love for “found” sounds, an intensely collaborative creative partnership was cemented. It continued non-stop for the ensuing decades, with Don endlessly scanning the airwaves of radio and television, along with his massive LP collection, for new material, day by day, week by week. There was often a TV and a radio on in his room simultaneously, cassette recorders always at the ready. And as an extremely shy and often quite reclusive person, radio was a perfect medium for Don. He could reach thousands of people each week without having to deal with very many actual humans, just as he preferred it. Creating art was not only Don’s full-time pursuit, it was literally his life’s work. He had made it clear to the group as recently as a few weeks ago that he was happy and satisfied with what he had been able to achieve in his life, and were he not able to continue to work, his life would feel as good as over.
Don Joyce’s singular editing style was laced with profundity and silliness in equal measure. His work was that of a dada humanist, able to wring unforgettable sentiments and statements out of material which originally spoke something entirely different. Hugely inspired by both the droll radio of Bob and Ray and the reckless free-form of the Firesign Theatre, he created a wicked language of repurposed purple prose which has inspired legions of other collage artists over the past three decades. He was the father of the form. One need only to listen to his work on “Time Zones” (on the Escape from Noise album) or “Piece of Pie” (in the No Business CD/book) to immediately tune into his unique wavelength.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 July 2015 16:42 (three years ago) link

Fuck.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 23 July 2015 18:44 (three years ago) link

RIP. "It's All In Your Head FM" was one of my highlights from the first Big Ears.

dart scar rashes (WilliamC), Thursday, 23 July 2015 19:19 (three years ago) link

Had a chance to talk a bit about him:

http://blog.sfgate.com/loaded/2015/07/23/don-joyce-radio-maverick-and-member-of-negativland-dies-at-71/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 July 2015 00:32 (three years ago) link

good post ned

https://kpfa.org/ midnight pacific tonight - over the edge

Milton Parker, Friday, 24 July 2015 01:48 (three years ago) link

sorry for yr loss, MP

sarahell, Friday, 24 July 2015 02:59 (three years ago) link

on my drive home from work this evening I saw a man who looked a lot like Don standing on the corner of Grand & Broadway, and I got sad.

sarahell, Friday, 24 July 2015 03:01 (three years ago) link

Thanks Jon, much appreciated. Awfully kind of the band to share that out on FB.

A tribute:

https://kpfa.org/episode/the-hear-and-now-july-23-2015/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 July 2015 16:21 (three years ago) link

Tempted to smoke a cigarette in honor of Don.

I think I'd like to have a cigarette now. Where are my cigarettes, David?
They're on top of the refrigerator.
David, I'd like to know what you did with my cigarettes.
They're under the house.
My cigarettes are missing, David. I'd like to smoke. What did you do with them?
They're in the toad cage.
David, I'd like to have a cigarette right now but I can't find the package. I put them on the table and they're not there. Did you take them?
I think we may have left them up at Grandma's house.
My mother doesn't smoke, David. What did you do with my cigarettes?
I told you, they're on top of the refrigerator.
I looked on top of the refrigerator. They aren't there. will you please tell me what you did with my cigarettes?
Maybe you left them in the car.
I haven't been in the car all day. You must have put them somewhere and I can't find them. You better tell me now or I'm going to really get mad.
Oh yeah, I think I know where they are. They're in back of the TV set, where all the parakeet feathers are.
As you're cleaning the orange carpet, there'll be a voice that says: FETCH MY CIGARETTES.
Another voice will say: THEY'RE ON TOP OF THE REFRIGERATOR.
And then of course you've forgotten completely about the green slime.

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Friday, 24 July 2015 16:29 (three years ago) link

http://www.negativland.com/ote/?p=2592

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 17:12 (three years ago) link

And now praise in turn for MP's own words and remembrances:

https://www.facebook.com/Negativlandland/posts/1103166776377732:0

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 July 2015 23:19 (three years ago) link

That's ridiculous. It's not even funny.

stirmonster, Friday, 31 July 2015 00:23 (three years ago) link

eight months pass...

Darn it. Richard Lyons has passed.

https://www.facebook.com/Negativlandland/photos/a.165153833512369.41221.131759750185111/1275537205807354/?type=3

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 April 2016 13:35 (three years ago) link

damn.

it's not even funny.

stirmonster, Thursday, 21 April 2016 14:09 (three years ago) link

cancer. Ugh. Only 57

curmudgeon, Thursday, 21 April 2016 16:22 (three years ago) link

:( RIP

lute bro (brimstead), Thursday, 21 April 2016 16:51 (three years ago) link

booo

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Thursday, 21 April 2016 16:53 (three years ago) link

first time I saw them live was on this tour:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_BfZFX5-eY

coffe growing vpon the skull of a sock (sarahell), Thursday, 21 April 2016 18:08 (three years ago) link

fucking hell

Odysseus, Thursday, 21 April 2016 18:08 (three years ago) link

holy shit this and prince? i was just listening to Dispepsi last week

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 April 2016 00:32 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

http://boingboing.net/2016/10/17/negativlands-next-album-come.html

Well, ok then.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 00:40 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

should I go see Mark Hosler solo?

alpine static, Sunday, 15 July 2018 19:53 (one year ago) link

snuggles

billstevejim, Monday, 16 July 2018 21:06 (one year ago) link

eh?

alpine static, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 03:19 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

30th anniversary of Helter Stupid this year. One of the all-time "you could never get away with that today" stories. Imagine some metal band trying to piggyback on a school shooting by claiming the killer was an obsessed fan of theirs.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 11 January 2019 00:47 (six months ago) link

I could see the edgelords trying.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 January 2019 01:40 (six months ago) link

should I go see Mark Hosler solo?

I saw Hosler solo on Halloween (with The Weatherman opening!) - was way more groove-based, at times leaning dubward, than I would have expected. Very few vocal samples, and no explicit cultural-critical aspects at all.

sans lep (sic), Friday, 11 January 2019 01:44 (six months ago) link

xpost - singing Ned's post to the tune of Take The Skinheads Bowling

sans lep (sic), Friday, 11 January 2019 01:45 (six months ago) link

Helter Stupid is great, supreme entertainment.

brimstead, Friday, 11 January 2019 02:02 (six months ago) link


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